They can't just take your guns

A quote from a friend of mine when I mentioned in conversation that I was looking forward to moving to nh, and that I was holding off buying more firearms until the move for fear that any minor misstep could lead to their confiscation, with a high degree of likelihood that I would never see them again without significant expense.

"You sound like one of those conspiracy nuts, they can't take your guns unless you commit a crime, and they do that in every state"

I consider myself a pretty reasonable person and him as well. I usually disregard conspiracy talk, but this to me is not conspiracy. So I am asking the great community of NES, if you can provide any vetted stories or articles that detail a Massachusetts lawfully licensed gun owner having their license revoked and guns taken due to a relatively minor or trivial thing.

Thanks in advance.
The only guns they 'take' are the ones you give to them... just sayin'
 
Isn't there a guy from Lowell that is getting jammed for letting some of his collection get stolen from a vault of sorts? Seems to me that he broke zero laws.

I believe he's in the clear now, after a couple years of them running him through the ringer over it. Ended up being the guys neighbor and a buddy or sumsuch.
 
Have your friend read Jarvis v Village Vault which is presently in the Federal Court.

http://www.comm2a.org/index.php/55-projects/104-jarvis

In short, father and son build a secure storage room in son's house for all of their guns. Wife got restraining order against son and police emptied contents of secure storage room (14 shotguns,10 rifles, 3 handguns, 2 containers of ammunition, cases, scopes, 3 black powder weapons, and 2 BB guns - 34 "items") and turned them over to village vault. Some of the guns belonged to dad and some to son. Father tried to retrieve HIS guns but was denied unless he paid $15 handling fee, $45 administration fee, $20 disposition fee and $0.50 per day storage FOR EACH OF THE 34 ITEMS. ($1225 total)
 
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I recently represented a guy charged with a storage violation. The police executed a search warrant for kiddie porn and found an unlocked gun. (There was no kiddie porn).

The sad reality is that it would have been too expensive to challenge the warrant, thought I'm pretty sure I would have won that argument. The warrant was baseless, IMHO.
 
Having been in that situation myself last summer, it is bullshit.

It depends entirely on just what you're being arrested

A blanket statement saying "any minor arrest" will get your LTC pulled and your firearms confiscated is factually incorrect.
 
A quote from a friend of mine when I mentioned in conversation that I was looking forward to moving to nh, and that I was holding off buying more firearms until the move for fear that any minor misstep could lead to their confiscation, with a high degree of likelihood that I would never see them again without significant expense.

"You sound like one of those conspiracy nuts, they can't take your guns unless you commit a crime, and they do that in every state"

I consider myself a pretty reasonable person and him as well. I usually disregard conspiracy talk, but this to me is not conspiracy. So I am asking the great community of NES, if you can provide any vetted stories or articles that detail a Massachusetts lawfully licensed gun owner having their license revoked and guns taken due to a relatively minor or trivial thing.

Thanks in advance.

Your friend is wrong, although I hope he does not have to learn how wrong he is the hard way.
 
Having been in that situation myself last summer, it is bullshit.

It depends entirely on just what you're being arrested

A blanket statement saying "any minor arrest" will get your LTC pulled and your firearms confiscated is factually incorrect.

It depends on what the arrest is for AND it depends on your Chief. Unsuitability can and does mean whatever the Chief wants it to be.
 
Having been in that situation myself last summer, it is bullshit.

It depends entirely on just what you're being arrested

A blanket statement saying "any minor arrest" will get your LTC pulled and your firearms confiscated is factually incorrect.

You got lucky then.
 
Having been in that situation myself last summer, it is bullshit.

It depends entirely on just what you're being arrested

A blanket statement saying "any minor arrest" will get your LTC pulled and your firearms confiscated is factually incorrect.


You're right. I should have used "may" instead of "will likely". Of course this depends on your Chief.

You're very lucky you had one of the few good ones.
 
Having been in that situation myself last summer, it is bullshit.

It depends entirely on just what you're being arrested

A blanket statement saying "any minor arrest" will get your LTC pulled and your firearms confiscated is factually incorrect.

He said, "likely."
 
Do gun confiscations ever happen in NH? Serious question.

I realize if you go commit some felony, they would probably get a search warrant and seize weapons, but otherwise?? I'm guessing bogus confiscations don't happen in NH as we routinely see in MA?
 
You're friend is the worst kind of friend, ignorant & stupid and unwilling or able to learn

Leave him to his bliss....

I just recently got rid of just such a friend, one I considered my best friend of 30 years. He got real weird about politics and unfriended me on FB and stopped taking my calls. When my wife called him on it he re-friended me but still wont call me. I just decided I don't need BS like that in my life and he can shove his re-friend up his ass. Sounds like the OP friend is a similar type.
 
DUI isn't "minor". Pissing on the side of the road on a tree? Very minor.


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I happen to agree that DUI isn't minor (we shouldn't really open that can of worms here again right now) but it's still classified a misdemeanor in the wisdom of the law. In most states, you don't lose your license to carry over misdemeanors, which is the subject of the OP, no?

I don't know, do you lose your ability to carry in NH for DUI? Georgia? Vermont?

It's gotta be one of the most common arrests, so if my guesses are right then it's a good answer to OPs friend; "if I get stopped and merely charged with DUI in MA, my guns are confiscated."
 
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DUI isn't "minor". Pissing on the side of the road on a tree? Very minor.


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Depends on how it is charged. Indecent exposure is super serial...

The reality is that minor charges CAN and HAVE resulted in peoples guns being taken and permanent loss of license in this state.
 
I happen to agree that DUI isn't minor (we shouldn't really open that can of worms here again right now) but it's still classified a misdemeanor in the wisdom of the law. In most states, you don't lose your license over misdemeanors, which is the subject of the OP, no?

I don't know, do you lose your ability to carry in NH for DUI? Georgia? Vermont?

It's gotta be one of the most common arrests, so if my guesses are right then it's a good answer to OPs friend; "if I get stopped and merely charged with DUI in MA, my guns are confiscated."

DUI's "typically" result in you losing your drivers license, even if temporarily.

And I stress typically, because it seems to be all over the place and bases upon the amount of $$ you have for a lawyer.


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DUI isn't "minor". Pissing on the side of the road on a tree? Very minor
Your opinions of the severity of various criminal charges seem very arbitrary. Thank goodness there aren't 351 different chiefs in this state, each with his own opinion of the severity of various criminal charges, with the power to revoke your license to carry for any reason they deem necessary. Oh, wait....

Just because "it didn't happen to me" does NOT mean it doesn't happen or that it's "bullshit" we are TELLING you that people have their LTC's revoked based on the mere mention of criminal charges fairly regularly. I'm not even sure why you're still attempting to argue this point.
 
Your opinions of the severity of various criminal charges seem very arbitrary. Thank goodness there aren't 351 different chiefs in this state, each with his own opinion of the severity of various criminal charges, with the power to revoke your license to carry for any reason they deem necessary. Oh, wait....

Just because "it didn't happen to me" does NOT mean it doesn't happen or that it's "bullshit" we are TELLING you that people have their LTC's revoked based on the mere mention of criminal charges fairly regularly. I'm not even sure why you're still attempting to argue this point.

My point was entirely missed by you. Give me a few minutes to dumb it down for you...


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