"There Are Basically No Sales": U.S. Auto Industry Enters Total Collapse As A Result Of Nationwide Lockdown

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maybe some are, a dealer from Nashua emailed yo say you can only buy online or by phone.
I heard some have closed by choice and are doing online sales only. It almost seems like Gov. Sununu just caved to all the crazies saying he’ll close down all non-essential businesses. Then everything is just labelled essential.
 

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The kids came back from Saint J today with this.


I'm not going to ask, because it's not my business, but I pray to God that they got the price knocked down to the $18k range, not the advertised $25.5k.

The showroom and offices were closed, and they had to do all the business outside on the lot. They did relent and let the daughter unit in to use the restroom.
 
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“Cash or finance”? Is one of the first things they ask now. What am I supposed to say? If I say “we’ll discuss that later,” they’ll just assume the worst (for them), cash, and quote a higher price on the vehicle.

Same thing with “do you have a trade-in”?
finance, then pay it off withing 2 months lol make sure there is no penalty. whatever happens after it's signed they don't care
 

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finance, then pay it off withing 2 months lol make sure there is no penalty. whatever happens after it's signed they don't care
Worked with my Rav4. $1000 additional discount for using financing; no prepayment penalty. Part of the deal was accepting a high interest rate (5.99%) to boost the dealership's commission on the loan, which I paid off about 60 days later. Total $4500 off sticker minus about $125 I paid for very short term financing.
 
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Tucks Trucks is open by appointment only and some of the salesmen have decided to stay home until this is over. Acadia's have 0%/84mo with 4 months no payments. I reached out to a salesman my wife and I have been talking to - NO ONE BUY THE 2019 ACADIA DENALI (blue/grey) ON THE LOT !!! IT'S MINE !!!!! Well, actually my wife's; my son got my truck after $2750 of repairs to frame, crossmembers, new shocks and brakes. I get the 2012 Ford Fusion SE 4cyl with 205K Miles.
Figuratively walk through the door... Can't literally at most places
 

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I wish I could have sympathy for the dealerships and industry as a whole that refuses to move into the 21st Century. There are laws in all 50 states that protect new car sales and ensure they can only be sold at a dealership. Pricing games, refusal to negotiate outside of the dealership, rudeness, etc....it's always a hassle to deal with it. Direct to consumer, online sales....this is the future of auto sales.
 

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I wish I could have sympathy for the dealerships and industry as a whole that refuses to move into the 21st Century. There are laws in all 50 states that protect new car sales and ensure they can only be sold at a dealership. Pricing games, refusal to negotiate outside of the dealership, rudeness, etc....it's always a hassle to deal with it. Direct to consumer, online sales....this is the future of auto sales.
Agreed. Car salesmen give ALL of us salesmen a bad name. Scum of the earth in some instances.
 

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I thought I was having a great sales experience at Bernardi Toyota until they sent me to the closer to write it up. The lines, lies and scare tactics he used to try to sell me high margin/high commission add-ons like service contracts was straight out of central casting for time share salesmen.
 
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I thought I was having a great sales experience at Bernardi Toyota until they sent me to the closer to write it up. The lines, lies and scare tactics he used to try to sell me high margin/high commission add-ons like service contracts was straight out of central casting for time share salesmen.
One of the reasons I still drive a 2005 Accord coupe I purchased for $1,600.
 

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I was going to have a talk with my wife about getting a car for my son for when he's out of school. She's been working from home and she just had her hours cut so that's not gonna happen until we see where we are financially. [thinking]
 

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I was going to have a talk with my wife about getting a car for my son for when he's out of school. She's been working from home and she just had her hours cut so that's not gonna happen until we see where we are financially. [thinking]
that is what we did for both our kids when they graduated college....a newish car so they did not have to keep driving their death traps. we set a price, i think it was around $22K and let them choose.
 
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How do you register a new car you purchase today?
A Affordable insurance in Brockton can and will collect sales tax, title fee, and registration fees and issue you plates. There are some things they cant do but I have used them for years just out of convenience. I am sure other insurance agents can also offer this service.
 

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Agreed. Car salesmen give ALL of us salesmen a bad name. Scum of the earth in some instances.
My lovely bride's oldest brother is a car salesman. Not a dealer, but a salesman at a Chevy/GMC dealership. And he's very successful at it. He specializes in Corvettes in a city with a bunch of riverboat casinos, and he's sold more than one for a briefcase full of freshly-won casino cash.

When we'd only been married for a couple of years and had a new baby (to add to the other four kids we brought to the marriage), we were looking for a cheap family hauler. We were having lunch, spotted a used minivan at a dealer across the street, strolled over, and took a look.

She called her brother to ask what he thought about the price. Not that we were going to buy it, but just to get a feel about pricing in our region. Was he helpful to his little sister? No, he berated her on the phone for half an hour for even thinking of buying a car from anyone but him, as if we were going to starve his only child to death.

Needless to say, if I won the Powerball tomorrow, I'd buy a new C8 'Vette from someone else, and then drive it into his dealer's lot just to show him.
 
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My lovely bride's oldest brother is a car salesman. Not a dealer, but a salesman at a Chevy/GMC dealership. And he's very successful at it. He specializes in Corvettes in a city with a bunch of riverboat casinos, and he's sold more than one for a briefcase full of freshly-won casino cash.

When we'd only been married for a couple of years and had a new baby (to add to the other four kids we brought to the marriage), we were looking for a cheap family hauler. We were having lunch, spotted a used minivan at a dealer across the street, strolled over, and took a look.

She called her brother to ask what he thought about the price. Not that we were going to buy it, but just to get a feel about pricing in our region. Was he helpful to his little sister? No, he berated her on the phone for half an hour for even thinking of buying a car from anyone but him, as if we were going to starve his only child to death.

Needless to say, if I won the Powerball tomorrow, I'd buy a new C8 'Vette from someone else, and then drive it into his dealer's lot just to show him.
Damn. I thought this story was going to end with the brother buying the minivan for you guys
 
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My lovely bride's oldest brother is a car salesman. Not a dealer, but a salesman at a Chevy/GMC dealership. And he's very successful at it. He specializes in Corvettes in a city with a bunch of riverboat casinos, and he's sold more than one for a briefcase full of freshly-won casino cash.

When we'd only been married for a couple of years and had a new baby (to add to the other four kids we brought to the marriage), we were looking for a cheap family hauler. We were having lunch, spotted a used minivan at a dealer across the street, strolled over, and took a look.

She called her brother to ask what he thought about the price. Not that we were going to buy it, but just to get a feel about pricing in our region. Was he helpful to his little sister? No, he berated her on the phone for half an hour for even thinking of buying a car from anyone but him, as if we were going to starve his only child to death.

Needless to say, if I won the Powerball tomorrow, I'd buy a new C8 'Vette from someone else, and then drive it into his dealer's lot just to show him.
Wow, that took a nice turn half way through. I was not expecting that, lol.

Yeah, 99% of car salesmen are scum. Their management is scum for pushing them the way they do, and the sales guys are scum for staying there and selling that way.

Are there decent ones? ... sure, and I know NES has a couple of good guys that sell cars (not Vietboy), but the greater percentage are just scum.
 

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How do you register a new car you purchase today?
A Affordable insurance in Brockton can and will collect sales tax, title fee, and registration fees and issue you plates.
Let the dealership do the registration, plates and sticker and pay them.

I suspect that the insurance agency just runs that to the registry. New cars sales tax is paid to the dealer. Used goes to the registry.

Alien, you are telling me that you paid for this at the Ins agency and stood there while they issued you the plates, or did you go back later (after they made the registry run) and pick them up then?

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When I purchased a new Velocity Blue Mustang GT late last Summer it was listed at $6k off sticker. Then when they did a trade value on my 12 GT they made a mistake by thinking it was a Premium but it was a base and gave me $2 k more than it was worth.
I was very prepared and had three other quotes on my trade value and they were all a minimum $2k lower. The dealer said they would honor the mistake but would not take any more off the sticker price. OK by me as I basically saved $8k with out a lot of hassle in the dealership.
 

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I've easily owned over 20 cars in my life, only one was ever bought from a dealership (used), the rest I've gotten from family members, private sales and police auctions. That one time I bought from a dealership, I really stuck it to him. I knew he'd lowball me on my trade-in, but I was OK with it because I knew something he didn't, it needed a heater core, which was a $1000 job on that car. When it started to leak inside the car, I simply bypassed the heater hoses and drove it like that for the rest of the Summer. When September rolled around, I figured I'd be wanting heat and defrost pretty soon, so that's when I got rid of it.
 

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Of course my dealership damaged 2019 GMC was due to be replaced with an identical 2020 model, got the build date 2 weeks ago, March 30th......nope, they are shut down now...no new build date yet.

I told my wife the other night, maybe the truck gods don't want me to get a new truck....
 
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How do you register a new car you purchase today?
In NH you register at your town hall. I just bought my wife a new jeep this week. Our town hall is closed. So I called the town clerk at home and she said to leave the paperwork on her front porch. I did that. A couple hours later I found the reg and new plates on my deck where she dropped them off. I really love NH.
 
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My lovely bride's oldest brother is a car salesman. Not a dealer, but a salesman at a Chevy/GMC dealership. And he's very successful at it. He specializes in Corvettes in a city with a bunch of riverboat casinos, and he's sold more than one for a briefcase full of freshly-won casino cash.

When we'd only been married for a couple of years and had a new baby (to add to the other four kids we brought to the marriage), we were looking for a cheap family hauler. We were having lunch, spotted a used minivan at a dealer across the street, strolled over, and took a look.

She called her brother to ask what he thought about the price. Not that we were going to buy it, but just to get a feel about pricing in our region. Was he helpful to his little sister? No, he berated her on the phone for half an hour for even thinking of buying a car from anyone but him, as if we were going to starve his only child to death.

Needless to say, if I won the Powerball tomorrow, I'd buy a new C8 'Vette from someone else, and then drive it into his dealer's lot just to show him.
My former BIL (RIP Bill) was one of the nicest guys who sold cars. I got a great price on a truck from him.
He was the rare exception to the rule but damn could he sell you something you didn’t want or need. He was that good at it and was one funny bastard doing it.
His daughter has the exact same traits and is in car sales but not a sales person. She is a hoot to listen to and calls these used car salesman out for what they truly are.
 

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Yeah, 99% of car salesmen are scum. Their management is scum for pushing them the way they do, and the sales guys are scum for staying there and selling that way.
^^THIS

I cannot stress this enough. These guys are experts at pretending to be your friend. I was prepared as HELL when I walked through the doors in december. Every curveball was thrown at me and I kept beating them down. In the end, I robbed them silly. However, they did get me one minor item:
While reviewing the bill of sale, the documentation fee (which contains a few govt mandated items in it) was next on the list. The dollar amount was actually on par with what other dealers charge so I didn't question it too much.
He quickly said "it's long to list everything in it". Argh! I should've told him to list it out. It probably contained more licensing fees that were already spelled out separately. I probably could've saved another $100 or so, but still. That was a scummy move on their end.

Car salesmen have one motive in mind: PROFIT. That's all. Once they sell the car, you're history and they move onto the next. You have to be more prepared than they are. Remember, they need to sell you a car way more than you need to buy it.
 
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