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wow - is that a new stat " kids are more likely to be killed by school violence than fire"? I have not heard that before and it's certainly disturbing.Considering that kids are more likely to be killed by school violence than fire, its a good thing that these drills are being practiced regularly. That said, it's a sad state of affairs when this is what our country has become....
Something doesn't sound right about that statistic...wow - is that a new stat " kids are more likely to be killed by school violence than fire"? I have not heard that before and it's certainly disturbing.
Something doesn't sound right about that statistic...
In my very limited research, the number I see thrown about often is that any given child has about a 1 in 1,000,000 chance of being killed by "school violence". Of course, what do we mean by "school violence". Let's assume we are talking about some sort of news making, mad man with a weapon sort of event, not some sort of one on one thing.
The worst calculated number I saw was 1 in 141,463.
I am not sure what the odds of dying in a fire at a school are, but using 2009 numbers for the general population we still have the most unlikely event in the summary (lightning) at 1 in 126,158.
Even using the worst numbers I have seen for odds of being killed in a school, you are still more likely to be killed by lightning, storms, dogs, and legal execution than a mad man with a gun in a school.
If you want this in percentages... being killed by:
Violence At School (best) - 0.0001%
Violence At School (worst)- 0.0007%
Lightning - 0.0007%
Storms - 0.0007%
Dog - 0.0008%
Legal Execution - 0.001%
Firearms Discharge - 0.01%
Fire - 0.07%
Assault by Firearm - 0.2%
Motor Vehicle Accident - 0.9%
Intentional Self Harm - 0.9 %
Cancer - 14%
Heart Disease - 14%
These kids are literally 1000 times more likely to kill themselves than to be killed at school.
Yes, there are some apples to crab apples comparisons here, but it is the best I could do.
The chance is still extremely remote. They're more likely to be killed in a car wreck, but we don't have drills for that, do we?Considering that kids are more likely to be killed by school violence than fire, its a good thing that these drills are being practiced regularly.
This one always starts an argument with my wife. I say we need to teach our oldest daughter to get out and away from her school if something happens. She says a 6 year old shouldn't/can't be running out on the street alone, which I kind of agree with but I'd rather that than have her hiding behind a curtain in her classroom!Have them practice "get the fugg out and far away from the school really fast". You want them alive, don't you?
Fair enough... I couldn't find any information on deaths in fires in schools probably because the last event was so long ago.The point is that the last fatal school fire in this country was in Chicago in 1958. It killed 92 kids and there haven't been any since. I think that's what Hush meant; schoolkids don't die by fire as often, anymore, as they die by gunmen.
Lots of teachers, and not just me, question the fact that there are state-mandated fire drills anymore. Four a year, in fact. Lockdown drills aren't required.
It's a tough thing, and I grapple with it all the time. From my classroom, though, I can only see out into the immediate hallway; during the 5 minutes or so during which a school shooting event is likely to last, there's no way I or anyone else can possibly have enough situational awareness to know exactly where the shooter is. Unless we go into the hallway and look down it, and I'm not that fond of becoming an unconcealed target.Unlike a fire, a guy with a gun has a longer range and is less predictable, but similar rules apply. Don't be where he is. Know your escape routes. I have my doubts about the effectiveness of sheltering in place in either case.
And why is it that? Could it be that schools now are built with less fire prone materials and that they have smoke detectors as well fire suppression systems. Maybe if we did away with "GFSZ" we wouldn't be having the mass shootings. Maybe we could not make the perp of these crimes famous. You are most certainly too young to Remember the criminals that popped up in the 20-30's as a result of the media portrayal being flattering, Bonnie and Clyde, Pretty Boy Al Cappone etc... And the media wants to glamorize them because it plays into their gun control agenda, they didn't go on an on about who this most resent killer was out in CO maybe they should do that for all of them.Considering that kids are more likely to be killed by school violence than fire, its a good thing that these drills are being practiced regularly. That said, it's a sad state of affairs when this is what our country has become....
I have a two year old, and I dread the moment she'll have to go to school.