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Of course we would

That argument holds as much water as the argument that without the EPA we wouldnt have clean water/air......
We would but not at the time we would need it.

At this time, I believe our country would benefit if 40% of citizens who hate America would move to Canada or any country of their choice and we would replace them with Hungarians or Polish people. That would stop donks from advancing.
 

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We would but not at the time we would need it.
Thats rediculous

Germany was defeated via conventional means

Japan was isolated and pushed back to the island of japan

We could have easily blockaded Japan for a decade vs dropping the bomb on them

Please stop with the silly responses
 

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Thats rediculous

Germany was defeated via conventional means

Japan was isolated and pushed back to the island of japan

We could have easily blockaded Japan for a decade vs dropping the bomb on them

Please stop with the silly responses
Boy, you need to go back to history. Germany was not defeated by us ONLY. You have forgotten that little detail.

 

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If you remove welfare and eliminate government controlled education (ban it) the majority of immigration issues can be sorted out in a few generations.

The real issue is encouraging freeloaders under the guise of being benevolent.
BINGO! [bow][bow][bow]

Stop charming freeloaders and bring talent.
 

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The issue is a shift from American being known as land of the free (as in speech) to land of the free (as in entitlement). Move the culture and reputation back and we'll attract the right kind of immigrants and inspire natural-born citizens to be productive rather than multi-generational freeloaders.

I don't care who you are, what you believe, where you came from. You don't even have to work your ass off. Just don't think you deserve having me work mine off for you.
 
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Incorrect. Many people come here legally because they value what America stands for. I am Republican and I came here to be conservative. I know plenty of people just like me.

Stop offering welfare to people who should be working and you will have less donks. That is the real issue. Not legal immigration!
Not in my experience. (Latin Am., Bosnia, Cambodia, China, Italy) There certainly are examples of people who immigrate here and are model citizens. My experience is, as another poster said, they come from socialist/communist countries where they were indoctrinated from birth with leftist ways of thinking. At the very least they have an over developed trust in western governments. Uncle Sam is a kind old fellow with a big bank account who would never hurt his own family.

"Why shouldnt he be able to stop you on the street or on the road and look through your car? Theres too much crime, they need to see if the car someone is driving is stolen or if they have guns or drugs. Why would you want to have a gun? My <uncle-brother-father-etc> was killed in <whatever war they fled>. Why would you want anyone aside from the police and the government to have guns?"

Take out a copy of the BoR and go right down the list and theyll tell you its crazy talk and we need to be safe or some bs. These people i know personally fit the stereotype of the hardworking immigrant looking for a better life to a tee. Great work ethic, strong morals, live by a good code, but just dont understand the principles this country was founded on.
 

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But I really would like to know how many immigrants from these top heavy goverment countries are so brainwashed in what gov should do for you, as compared to telling gov to leave me alone.
Guy I knew lived in Chelsea. Neighbor is Hispanic. Hispanic neighbor has mice in the house to some extent. (1-100 have no idea) Street they live on runs parallel to a creek. Across the street are homes but in their back yard is basically a marsh and beyond that is the water, so basically Mouse Heaven. So what does the neighbor do? Calls the city and complains. (She owns the house mind you) What does the city do? Sends a few guys over there to set out some traps, block up holes, advise the neighbor and Im sure apologize to her for any inconvenience.

Earlier this year we had a windstorm and I lost power for almost a full two days. I was wondering out loud in work if the food in the fridge was any good and that Id hate to toss it etc. Couple of Puerto Rican girls who work in the office start going on about how I should be reimbursed by the town. I said" well no, it wasnt a town thing, storm rolled through, trees down everywhere, no due to the towns negligence in any way really, etc". They were all "you should show them the cc bill for the food, Id be getting that money back, etc" cackling and hi-fiving.

People see the gov as a bottomless pit of money that pays for their necessities. The money they get pays for stuff they want. The gov, in their mind, should pay for what they need.
 

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Wrong! They come here to fight communism. I did and many others. Do not generalize, please!

Stop voting for commies like Sanders and we will be fine.

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That tells me the southern wall cannot get built fast enough. One of many reasons.
 

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Not in my experience. (Latin Am., Bosnia, Cambodia, China, Italy) There certainly are examples of people who immigrate here and are model citizens. My experience is, as another poster said, they come from socialist/communist countries where they were indoctrinated from birth with leftist ways of thinking. At the very least they have an over developed trust in western governments. Uncle Sam is a kind old fellow with a big bank account who would never hurt his own family.

"Why shouldnt he be able to stop you on the street or on the road and look through your car? Theres too much crime, they need to see if the car someone is driving is stolen or if they have guns or drugs. Why would you want to have a gun? My <uncle-brother-father-etc> was killed in <whatever war they fled>. Why would you want anyone aside from the police and the government to have guns?"

Take out a copy of the BoR and go right down the list and theyll tell you its crazy talk and we need to be safe or some bs. These people i know personally fit the stereotype of the hardworking immigrant looking for a better life to a tee. Great work ethic, strong morals, live by a good code, but just dont understand the principles this country was founded on.
At the same token I can say that we have plenty of American citizens today who never cared to learn about communism and THEY WANT IT NOW!
Generalization never works.

How many American teachers teach 2A?

Show me recent Russian, Polish, Croatian, Czech, Slovak, Hungarian, Ukrainian immigrant who will ask you for less weapons and I will rest my case.
 

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Take out a copy of the BoR and go right down the list and theyll tell you its crazy talk and we need to be safe or some bs. These people i know personally fit the stereotype of the hardworking immigrant looking for a better life to a tee. Great work ethic, strong morals, live by a good code, but just dont understand the principles this country was founded on.
+1 I work with a ton of immigrants, more than most people. They are all good people, they didnt come here for freedom or the American way of life, they left their shitholes to not be in a shithole and for more $$$.
 

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Do they even let people from these countries in any more?
No, and that is the problem. Donks will bring you endangered species, if they will vote, before they would allow fair immigration from Europe.

Even much worst, in 80's European refugee camps were loaded with tens of thousands Afghani mujahedeens who were fighting Soviets. They wanted to recover from their wounds and come back and fight for their country. What did we do? We showed them movies about easy life in America and we convinced them to come over here. That is going on now also. Immigration became a political weapon.
 

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That tells me the southern wall cannot get built fast enough. One of many reasons.
I'd guess it's actually worse than it appears - That chart, if I'm not mistaken represents LEGAL immigrants. with 46-54% of all those coming from Central America and Mexico with less than a high school education :(
 

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No, and that is the problem. Donks will bring you endangered species, if they will vote, before they would allow fair immigration from Europe.

Even much worst, in 80's European refugee camps were loaded with tens of thousands Afghani mujahedeens who were fighting Soviets. They wanted to recover from their wounds and come back and fight for their country. What did we do? We showed them movies about easy life in America and we convinced them to come over here. That is going on now also. Immigration became a political weapon.
Doesnt seem like the Republicans want to take their foot off the gas either tbh. They have to see how this is going to eventually play out, which is their party never winning another election above town dog catcher in another generation or two. Do they really not give a shit about their own grandkids growing up as second class citizens in a formerly first world nation? They have to see it coming.
 

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Doesnt seem like the Republicans want to take their foot off the gas either tbh. They have to see how this is going to eventually play out, which is their party never winning another election above town dog catcher in another generation or two. Do they really not give a shit about their own grandkids growing up as second class citizens in a formerly first world nation? They have to see it coming.
They do care. But......Let's not pretend that we have some united nation. We do not have it. We are divided and our core competencies were neglected for a decade or even more. Donks decided to replace Americans with armies devoted to welfare. That can't be taken back. They are here and we are paying for them. We just need to close borders and change legal immigration so we are getting much different quality of people. If we will not do that WE WILL BECOME MINORITY mostly because our birth rate is low and those we feed have no problems with many kids we also feed. So, stop immigration and our kids will be minorities. Change immigration, and we will be able to continue building something quite unique.

This is good (start from 1942):

1965: The Immigration and Nationality Act overhauls the American immigration system. The Act ends the national origin quotas enacted in the 1920s which favored some racial and ethnic groups over others.

The quota system is replaced with a seven-category preference system emphasizing family reunification and skilled immigrants. Upon signing the new bill, President Lyndon B. Johnson, called the old immigration system “un-American,” and said the new bill would correct a “cruel and enduring wrong in the conduct of the American Nation.”

Over the next five years, immigration from war-torn regions of Asia, including Vietnam and Cambodia, would more than quadruple. Family reunification became a driving force in U.S. immigration.

April-October 1980: During the Mariel boatlift, roughly 125,000 Cuban refugees make a dangerous sea crossing in overcrowded boats to arrive on the Florida shore seeking political asylum.
 
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They do care. But......Let's not pretend that we have some united nation. We do not have it. We are divided and our core competencies were neglected for a decade or even more. Donks decided to replace Americans with armies devoted to welfare. That can't be taken back. They are here and we are paying for them. We just need to close borders and change legal immigration so we are getting much different quality of people. If we will not do that WE WILL BECOME MINORITY mostly because our birth rate is low and those we feed have no problems with many kids we also feed. So, stop immigration and our kids will be minorities. Change immigration, and we will be able to continue building something quite unique.
Theyll never turn off the brown people faucet and turn on the Eastern Euro one. That will NEVER happen.
 

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Boy, you need to go back to history. Germany was not defeated by us ONLY. You have forgotten that little detail.

But your own example doesnt matter for all of the reasons provided previously......

You're doing the equivalent of asserting that without the EPA we would have no clean air/water and that the US would be one big superfund site and thats just patently false.....
 

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Incorrect. Many people come here legally because they value what America stands for. I am Republican and I came here to be conservative. I know plenty of people just like me.

Stop offering welfare to people who should be working and you will have less donks. That is the real issue. Not legal immigration!
But aside from those of you that fled communist countries that were within the soviet sphere of influence the overwhelming majority of "immigrants" legal and otherwise from south america espouse socialist views on issues.......despite the fact that many of them grew up in these socialist/leftist abortions......some of this is because the overwhelming majority of them are no/low skill workers who disproportionately rely on welfare/taxpayer assistance.

There are significant numbers of Cubans and more recently Venezuelans that have made their way to the US who clearly have their heads on straight about the death, poverty and destruction that goes along with progressivism, socialism, communism but they are a very very long way away from the majority as a % of "immigrants"
 
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