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This is the kind of dumb shit that is going to cost trump the election....


Betray the base/workers of the nation for big business and he's done.......so much for america first......looks more like corporations first.......and with that he feeds directly into the sanders/warren bullshit......

probably the dumbest thing trump has done to date
 

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This is the kind of dumb shit that is going to cost trump the election....


Betray the base/workers of the nation for big business and he's done.......so much for america first......looks more like corporations first.......and with that he feeds directly into the sanders/warren bullshit......

probably the dumbest thing trump has done to date
He wants to increase LEGAL IMMIGRATION. I am all for it.

I will explain why; There are specializations we do not have in America anymore. It is unfortunate but that is the case. We produce plenty of political science majors but not enough experts.
 

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He wants to increase LEGAL IMMIGRATION. I am all for it.

I will explain why; There are specializations we do not have in America anymore. It is unfortunate but that is the case. We produce plenty of political science majors but not enough experts.
I have no problem with legal immigration. Never have. Never will. Speak English. Crime free background. Remain crime free here.
 

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He wants to increase LEGAL IMMIGRATION. I am all for it.

I will explain why; There are specializations we do not have in America anymore. It is unfortunate but that is the case. We produce plenty of political science majors but not enough experts.
The question is numbers

We already take in over 1 million thru the front door every year and each of those people can bring along/sponsor 3+ family members which raises it to many many more millions

On top of that we have other "Lottery" programs for many many more

Then there's the refugee program

The illegal aliens and amnasty

Now you want to allow "students" who have studied in US schools a free pass which will suppress wages even further and increase competition for amerficans?

We're so far past an appropriate number to be assimilated into american culture/values that its insane

How about fixing US Schools instead of f***ing US workers by allowing more foreigners in to suppress wages/salaries and screw americans out of jobs
 
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One of those that enlisted belongs to me. They aren't the problem.

The millennials include two distinct species. One strongly resembles humans but have half a drawer of silverware hanging off their face and frequents Starbucks. And cry rooms.

The other includes men and women that have their heads on straight and does what has to be done.

Draft the first sort and it'll be collective suicide. Draft the second sort and things will be fine.
It's the way it's always been. I'm a member of Gen X. The boomers said we were lazy too. Amazing stuff my generation has put forth, quantum leap in technology (good and bad).

The younger generation will be just fine.

There won't be a draft because 10 solid fighters are worth more than 50 slugs who whine and bitch. The military knows that now.
 

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The question is numbers

We already take in over 1 million thru the front door every year and each of those people can bring along/sponsor 3+ family members which raises it to many many more millions

On top of that we have other "Lottery" programs for many many more

Then there's the refugee program

The illegal aliens and amnasty

Now you want to allow "students" who have studied in US schools a free pass which will suppress wages even further and increase competition for amerficans?

We're so far past an appropriate number to be assimilated into american culture/values that its insane

How about fixing US Schools instead of f***ing US workers by allowing more foreigners in to suppress wages/salaries and screw americans out of jobs
Yes. "Lottery" is a joke and it would be nice to get rid of it.

Unfortunately, our school system can't be fixed as fast as we would like. We are behind China, India, even Russia. There is nothing wrong with bringing talent over here and draining talent pool of our competition.

In the medical field, for example, we are not suppressing any wages, the opposite is true. We are creating job opportunities we would not have. There are many top doctors who were not born here and who are now running entire departments which were INVENTED by them.

If you are coming here to build something, you should be always welcome.

You also need to realize that those who are now on MASSHEALTH will hardly move into a work force. They have been there for generations! This will never be fixed also!

In a long run we do not need dependents we need new ideas and new industries. Those will come from here but also from the outside. Let's not limit ourselves.
 

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Give her few more tough months and she will promise to cancel car loans and your mortgages also! [rockon]


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Warren is getting slammed mercilessly on Twitter by the Bernie camp today. The left is literally eating itself right now.
 

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Warren is getting slammed mercilessly on Twitter by the Bernie camp today. The left is literally eating itself right now.
Bernie finally realized what Stalin knew immediately when he took over after Lenin; You can't tolerate Trockij if you are serious about the revolution!
Bernie will unleash his thugs and he will get where we want him to be. He will be American Che! She will be eaten right in front of shocked donks.
 

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Yes. "Lottery" is a joke and it would be nice to get rid of it.

Unfortunately, our school system can't be fixed as fast as we would like. We are behind China, India, even Russia. There is nothing wrong with bringing talent over here and draining talent pool of our competition.

In the medical field, for example, we are not suppressing any wages, the opposite is true. We are creating job opportunities we would not have. There are many top doctors who were not born here and who are now running entire departments which were INVENTED by them.

If you are coming here to build something, you should be always welcome.

You also need to realize that those who are now on MASSHEALTH will hardly move into a work force. They have been there for generations! This will never be fixed also!

In a long run we do not need dependents we need new ideas and new industries. Those will come from here but also from the outside. Let's not limit ourselves.
Totally disagree

Just because you want something doesnt mean you're entitled to it

America is here first and foremost to serve and protect AMERICANS

Special interest groups are turning america on its head
 

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It's the way it's always been. I'm a member of Gen X. The boomers said we were lazy too. Amazing stuff my generation has put forth, quantum leap in technology (good and bad).

The younger generation will be just fine.

There won't be a draft because 10 solid fighters are worth more than 50 slugs who whine and bitch. The military knows that now.
I don't do generations.
 

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Totally disagree

Just because you want something doesnt mean you're entitled to it

America is here first and foremost to serve and protect AMERICANS

Special interest groups are turning america on its head
Following the same ideology America would not have nuclear weapons, advanced medical research, space programs,........We will be protecting our own limitations. [rolleyes]
 

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Following the same ideology America would not have nuclear weapons, advanced medical research, space programs,........We will be protecting our own limitations. [rolleyes]
Of course we would

That argument holds as much water as the argument that without the EPA we wouldnt have clean water/air......
 

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Problem is they tend to see the Bill of RIghts as something that should go away in my experience. Legal or not, youre importing future Dem voters.
Incorrect. Many people come here legally because they value what America stands for. I am Republican and I came here to be conservative. I know plenty of people just like me.

Stop offering welfare to people who should be working and you will have less donks. That is the real issue. Not legal immigration!
 

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Of course we would

That argument holds as much water as the argument that without the EPA we wouldnt have clean water/air......
We would but not at the time we would need it.

At this time, I believe our country would benefit if 40% of citizens who hate America would move to Canada or any country of their choice and we would replace them with Hungarians or Polish people. That would stop donks from advancing.
 

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We would but not at the time we would need it.
Thats rediculous

Germany was defeated via conventional means

Japan was isolated and pushed back to the island of japan

We could have easily blockaded Japan for a decade vs dropping the bomb on them

Please stop with the silly responses
 

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Thats rediculous

Germany was defeated via conventional means

Japan was isolated and pushed back to the island of japan

We could have easily blockaded Japan for a decade vs dropping the bomb on them

Please stop with the silly responses
Boy, you need to go back to history. Germany was not defeated by us ONLY. You have forgotten that little detail.

 

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If you remove welfare and eliminate government controlled education (ban it) the majority of immigration issues can be sorted out in a few generations.

The real issue is encouraging freeloaders under the guise of being benevolent.
BINGO! [bow][bow][bow]

Stop charming freeloaders and bring talent.
 

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The issue is a shift from American being known as land of the free (as in speech) to land of the free (as in entitlement). Move the culture and reputation back and we'll attract the right kind of immigrants and inspire natural-born citizens to be productive rather than multi-generational freeloaders.

I don't care who you are, what you believe, where you came from. You don't even have to work your ass off. Just don't think you deserve having me work mine off for you.
 
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Incorrect. Many people come here legally because they value what America stands for. I am Republican and I came here to be conservative. I know plenty of people just like me.

Stop offering welfare to people who should be working and you will have less donks. That is the real issue. Not legal immigration!
Not in my experience. (Latin Am., Bosnia, Cambodia, China, Italy) There certainly are examples of people who immigrate here and are model citizens. My experience is, as another poster said, they come from socialist/communist countries where they were indoctrinated from birth with leftist ways of thinking. At the very least they have an over developed trust in western governments. Uncle Sam is a kind old fellow with a big bank account who would never hurt his own family.

"Why shouldnt he be able to stop you on the street or on the road and look through your car? Theres too much crime, they need to see if the car someone is driving is stolen or if they have guns or drugs. Why would you want to have a gun? My <uncle-brother-father-etc> was killed in <whatever war they fled>. Why would you want anyone aside from the police and the government to have guns?"

Take out a copy of the BoR and go right down the list and theyll tell you its crazy talk and we need to be safe or some bs. These people i know personally fit the stereotype of the hardworking immigrant looking for a better life to a tee. Great work ethic, strong morals, live by a good code, but just dont understand the principles this country was founded on.
 
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But I really would like to know how many immigrants from these top heavy goverment countries are so brainwashed in what gov should do for you, as compared to telling gov to leave me alone.
 

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But I really would like to know how many immigrants from these top heavy goverment countries are so brainwashed in what gov should do for you, as compared to telling gov to leave me alone.
Guy I knew lived in Chelsea. Neighbor is Hispanic. Hispanic neighbor has mice in the house to some extent. (1-100 have no idea) Street they live on runs parallel to a creek. Across the street are homes but in their back yard is basically a marsh and beyond that is the water, so basically Mouse Heaven. So what does the neighbor do? Calls the city and complains. (She owns the house mind you) What does the city do? Sends a few guys over there to set out some traps, block up holes, advise the neighbor and Im sure apologize to her for any inconvenience.

Earlier this year we had a windstorm and I lost power for almost a full two days. I was wondering out loud in work if the food in the fridge was any good and that Id hate to toss it etc. Couple of Puerto Rican girls who work in the office start going on about how I should be reimbursed by the town. I said" well no, it wasnt a town thing, storm rolled through, trees down everywhere, no due to the towns negligence in any way really, etc". They were all "you should show them the cc bill for the food, Id be getting that money back, etc" cackling and hi-fiving.

People see the gov as a bottomless pit of money that pays for their necessities. The money they get pays for stuff they want. The gov, in their mind, should pay for what they need.
 

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Wrong! They come here to fight communism. I did and many others. Do not generalize, please!

Stop voting for commies like Sanders and we will be fine.

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That tells me the southern wall cannot get built fast enough. One of many reasons.
 

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Not in my experience. (Latin Am., Bosnia, Cambodia, China, Italy) There certainly are examples of people who immigrate here and are model citizens. My experience is, as another poster said, they come from socialist/communist countries where they were indoctrinated from birth with leftist ways of thinking. At the very least they have an over developed trust in western governments. Uncle Sam is a kind old fellow with a big bank account who would never hurt his own family.

"Why shouldnt he be able to stop you on the street or on the road and look through your car? Theres too much crime, they need to see if the car someone is driving is stolen or if they have guns or drugs. Why would you want to have a gun? My <uncle-brother-father-etc> was killed in <whatever war they fled>. Why would you want anyone aside from the police and the government to have guns?"

Take out a copy of the BoR and go right down the list and theyll tell you its crazy talk and we need to be safe or some bs. These people i know personally fit the stereotype of the hardworking immigrant looking for a better life to a tee. Great work ethic, strong morals, live by a good code, but just dont understand the principles this country was founded on.
At the same token I can say that we have plenty of American citizens today who never cared to learn about communism and THEY WANT IT NOW!
Generalization never works.

How many American teachers teach 2A?

Show me recent Russian, Polish, Croatian, Czech, Slovak, Hungarian, Ukrainian immigrant who will ask you for less weapons and I will rest my case.
 
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