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Trump needs Kim to behave (not test fire missiles) until after the 2020 election. No one wants to go to war. If you are locked in a cage with a mad dog you can either talk nicely to him until you can get the door open hoping he doesn't bite or you can kick him and be reasonably sure that he will bite. I agree that Kim will probably never denuclearize. I am sure he has read The Art of the Deal. He will play us against China and Russia any way he can.
 

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I don't agree with that. He isn't paling around, he is talking to him and engaging him. You cant change a situation by ignoring it. Ignoring the NK dictator and his progeny is what the US has been doing since the end of the military actions on the Korean peninsula. We are still technically at war. Trump knows that doing the same thing, watching a whole country starve and live sub-human lives while hiding behind a false curtain of feigned virtue wont help the people of NK get out from under the yoke of oppression. The Leftists criticize Trump for trying a novel approach, while themselves trying to put the yoke of Communist/Socialist oppression on us which is quite ironic. If you have a better approach for a breakthrough with NK, outline it here. Trump has a very good sense about what people want and need, what harm could come out of talking beyond the hypocritical and disingenuous criticism of radical leftists?

I despise the communist left, and yet, I have to say I really haven’t been very impressed at all by Trump’s handling of KJU. Not at all. There’s absolutely, positively no good reason to pal around with this little violent butcher, and to publicly proclaim what a great guy he is. It’s actually quite embarrassing, and makes us look weak, both to NK and to China. I know a ton of people here will try to say that Trump is playing 4D chess or something, but I’m not buying it. He may be acting like his typical deal making self but if that’s the case, what’s the payoff? I don’t believe for one second Kim will denuclearize. NK has NOTHING we need.
 

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I don't agree with that. He isn't paling around, he is talking to him and engaging him. You cant change a situation by ignoring it. Ignoring the NK dictator and his progeny is what the US has been doing since the end of the military actions on the Korean peninsula. We are still technically at war. Trump knows that doing the same thing, watching a whole country starve and live sub-human lives while hiding behind a false curtain of feigned virtue wont help the people of NK get out from under the yoke of oppression. The Leftists criticize Trump for trying a novel approach, while themselves trying to put the yoke of Communist/Socialist oppression on us which is quite ironic. If you have a better approach for a breakthrough with NK, outline it here. Trump has a very good sense about what people want and need, what harm could come out of talking beyond the hypocritical and disingenuous criticism of radical leftists?
Precisely. Trump understands that what needs to really happen is that the North and South need to make peace. It's not our country at all. He understands people, dealmaking and Asian culture very well. Walking from the deal in Hanoi was the right move. It also shamed Kim. He gave him an opportunity to restore honor and a way back to the negotiating table. He deserves the Nobel peace prize just for what he's accomplished so far
 
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I despise the communist left, and yet, I have to say I really haven’t been very impressed at all by Trump’s handling of KJU. Not at all. There’s absolutely, positively no good reason to pal around with this little violent butcher, and to publicly proclaim what a great guy he is. It’s actually quite embarrassing, and makes us look weak, both to NK and to China. I know a ton of people here will try to say that Trump is playing 4D chess or something, but I’m not buying it. He may be acting like his typical deal making self but if that’s the case, what’s the payoff? I don’t believe for one second Kim will denuclearize. NK has NOTHING we need.
We have covered all concerns on a NK thread here on NES already. It is a very tough situation we are in over there. This situation was originally created by us, with our participation, so this is not something which grew on it's own. Please, find all details in the other thread.

Bill Clinton was also in NK, let's not forget it.
2009 imprisonment of American journalists by North Korea - Wikipedia

In politics you do everything you can before you risk lives of millions. What Our President is doing is something not everyone can or would like to do. He is not kissing butts. He is telling them (Iran, NK, Russia) that they can improve their current position if they will cooperate. At the same time our military is getting ready for the other alternative. There is nothing wrong with that!
 

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Trump needs Kim to behave (not test fire missiles) until after the 2020 election. No one wants to go to war. If you are locked in a cage with a mad dog you can either talk nicely to him until you can get the door open hoping he doesn't bite or you can kick him and be reasonably sure that he will bite. I agree that Kim will probably never denuclearize. I am sure he has read The Art of the Deal. He will play us against China and Russia any way he can.
Kim would give up his nukes if we would not screw Ukraine as we did. NK has very strong ties to Russia and they were darlings of the Soviet Union so they know how it will look like when they will give up their nukes. They will, though, make a deal. Our strategy should be status quo and waiting for NK to fold internally.
 

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Considering obummer got one for just showing up to work, trump deserve a lifetime peace prize
Dude, think why Bernie wants us to become Sweden. [slap]

Nobel Prize is a commie tool for few decades. Never trust people when they will tell you that your good intentions will be followed after you are gone! ;)
 

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I despise the communist left, and yet, I have to say I really haven’t been very impressed at all by Trump’s handling of KJU. Not at all. There’s absolutely, positively no good reason to pal around with this little violent butcher, and to publicly proclaim what a great guy he is. It’s actually quite embarrassing, and makes us look weak, both to NK and to China. I know a ton of people here will try to say that Trump is playing 4D chess or something, but I’m not buying it. He may be acting like his typical deal making self but if that’s the case, what’s the payoff? I don’t believe for one second Kim will denuclearize. NK has NOTHING we need.
The payoff might be not having to send your kids or grandkids in there to fight and die .
That option is always on the table .
If blowing some smoke up the little turds skirt makes it so that doesn't have to happen, then why not ?
There are a few million South Koreans within artillery range alone of that nut.
We have a defense pact with them and if things go sideways , we're in it.
 
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The payoff might be not having to send your kids or grandkids in there to fight and die .
That option is always on the table .
If blowing some smoke up the little turds skirt makes it so that doesn't have to happen, then why not ?
There are a few million South Koreans within artillery range alone of that nut.
We have a defense pact with them and if things go sideways , we're in it.
And that’s what the “don’t play nice let’s go to war” morons ignore. Within twenty minutes of Rocketboy ordering batteries released, how many tens of thousands in South Korea are dead? We have to respond to that with force. North Korea will launch their nukes with half-assed targeting and nav systems that will likely hit a random target. Maybe Japan? China? Russia? Who knows, but how will they react?

Military action against NK is almost guaranteed WW3. So why not negotiate in good faith? Any of you “I hate the president and I don’t care how many Americans die to prove how much I hate him” Communist waste of oxygen stain on humanity shitbags on your way to the recruiters office? Or is that too far from the safety of moms basement?
 
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I've always been against embargoes and attempts to isolate countries because all you have done is created a captive audience for the dictatorship to control with no outside economic influence. Look at Cuba. Complete and utter debacle for decades. Hoping when the dictator dies that someone else doesn't just take up the mantle is retarded.
 

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Antifa is turning into the modern version of the SA brown shirts.
Weren't they known as ACORN a few years ago.

The whole lot of them need the masks ripped off so they can make their families proud as they are beaten with bike locks on chains like the college professor in California.
 
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Military action against NK is almost guaranteed WW3. So why not negotiate in good faith? Any of you “I hate the president and I don’t care how many Americans die to prove how much I hate him” Communist waste of oxygen stain on humanity shitbags on your way to the recruiters office? Or is that too far from the safety of moms basement?
well, it IS always the democrats who get us INTO wars. Then typically a Republican is elected to get us the heck out of them.
 

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I've always been against embargoes and attempts to isolate countries because all you have done is created a captive audience for the dictatorship to control with no outside economic influence. Look at Cuba. Complete and utter debacle for decades. Hoping when the dictator dies that someone else doesn't just take up the mantle is retarded.
I see nothing wrong with the way Cuba was handled. You could have another CA or MA instead, if it would be the other way. Keep commies isolated as much as you can and do not risk lives of our soldiers. We are not an international police.
 

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Weren't they known as ACORN a few years ago.

The whole lot of them need the masks ripped off so they can make their families proud as they are beaten with bike locks on chains loke the college professor in California.
Dont forget occupy wall street......its the same agitators and people behind the scenes funding them.......they just change the name periodically
 

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The ANTIFA goons used to be International ANSWER back in the Bush era. Same commies, different names different excuse to promote Maoism and beat people up.
 

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Navy SEAL Eddie Gallagher sentenced to reduced rank, partial pay, after being cleared of murder charges.

Guy should get a medal for the shit he had to put up with...I hope Trump pardons him with back pay plus some.
When will we see an investigation into the bullshit manufactured charges he was subject to and a cleansing of the bullshit arseholes from the service?
 

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View: https://twitter.com/realDonaldTrump/status/1146435093491277824

Justice Dept. reverses course on census citizenship question after Trump's tweet
The Justice Department reversed course Wednesday on whether the 2020 census will be printed without a question on citizenship, after President Donald Trump tweeted out a statement contradicting his own government's position.

In a Wednesday afternoon conference call with U.S. District Judge George J. Hazel of Maryland pressed DOJ lawyers on how they would square the president's tweet saying the government was "absolutely moving forward" in including the question, with the government's position announced just a day before that there would be no citizenship question on the 2020 census.

"We at the Department of Justice have been instructed to examine whether there is a path forward, consistent with the Supreme Court's decision, that would allow us to include the citizenship question on the census," assistant attorney general for the Justice Department's civil division Jody Hunt said on the call. "We think there may be a legally available path under the Supreme Court's decision. We're examining that, looking at near-term options to see whether that's viable and possible."
I'm betting that everyone gets a long form census, no more short forms, to get around the hack district judge and be consistent with the SCotUS ruling.
 

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And that’s what the “don’t play nice let’s go to war” morons ignore. Within twenty minutes of Rocketboy ordering batteries released, how many tens of thousands in South Korea are dead? We have to respond to that with force. North Korea will launch their nukes with half-assed targeting and nav systems that will likely hit a random target. Maybe Japan? China? Russia? Who knows, but how will they react?

Military action against NK is almost guaranteed WW3. So why not negotiate in good faith? Any of you “I hate the president and I don’t care how many Americans die to prove how much I hate him” Communist waste of oxygen stain on humanity shitbags on your way to the recruiters office? Or is that too far from the safety of moms basement?
Let's not forget Trump is also building up the military. Obama ignored n Korea like most other Presidents. President Trump is at least recognizing he is there. If the little shit does something stupid, I have no doubt we will destroy him. Why not try some negotiations first?
 

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Let's not forget Trump is also building up the military. Obama ignored n Korea like most other Presidents. President Trump is at least recognizing he is there. If the little shit does something stupid, I have no doubt we will destroy him. Why not try some negotiations first?
Don't blame the person, they have a disease. TDS is affecting millions of Americans. I am accepting donations to help find a cure and fight this disease.
 

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Don't blame the person, they have a disease. TDS is affecting millions of Americans. I am accepting donations to help find a cure and fight this disease.
Is "Trump Derangement Syndrome" a Real Mental Condition?

It's not yet officially recognized as a disease, but it's become obvious to mental health professionals that there's something to look into.

I doubt it'll be CALLED Trump Derangement Syndrome, but it'll make it's way into the book. Telling a TDS sufferer that have Trump (anything) would result in immediate self immolation.
 
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