1. If you enjoy the forum please consider supporting it by signing up for a NES Membership  The benefits pay for the membership many times over.

The President Trump Megathread

Discussion in 'Off-Topic' started by IvIax, Jun 16, 2015.

  1. EvilDragon

    EvilDragon NES Member

    Joined:
    Feb 17, 2013
    Messages:
    3,307
    Likes Received:
    920
    Location:
    Norwood, MA
    Meh, Wikileaks is straight up Putin propaganda at this point.
     

  2. Waher

    Waher NES Member

    Joined:
    Jan 2, 2014
    Messages:
    6,586
    Likes Received:
    3,924
    Location:
    BG&RA, BR&PC
  3. 10thSFFD

    10thSFFD NES Member

    Joined:
    Nov 1, 2013
    Messages:
    16,420
    Likes Received:
    7,255
    Location:
    Camp Deplorable in the Blue Swamp
    Very entertaining interview with Ben Rhodes. He is underscoring many things we have covered on NES way before he published his silly booklet. His Obama is a clueless puppet with a toxic creativity.
    Interview with Obama Adviser Ben Rhodes: 'Trump Is Just Tearing Things Down' - SPIEGEL ONLINE - International
    DER SPIEGEL: In August 2012, Obama said the use of chemical weapons was a "red line." Was this specific wording planned in advance?

    Rhodes: No. We scripted language for Obama that the world is watching, and if you use these chemical weapons, you'll be held accountable. A few weeks later in a press conference, he was asked a question about chemical weapons, and he described that as a "red line." He used the phrase spontaneously. A president says millions of words, and you never know which words are actually going to be the most important. It's an example of a case where language matters.

    DER SPIEGEL: Was it immediately clear to you what this could mean politically?

    Rhodes: I assumed that we would bomb Syria if they used chemical weapons on a large scale. In late 2012/early 2013, there were these reports of small scale uses of chemical weapons in Syria. What was so difficult is it would take weeks to figure out what happened, maybe months. So it became apparent that, even though some of us were arguing for military force, we weren't going to necessarily use it for something that took us so long to prove. There was always some kind of a complexity and ambiguity to it.

    DER SPIEGEL: But that changed dramatically in August 2013, when Assad's forces attacked Goutha, east of Damascus, with sarin gas. According to estimates, more than 1,000 people died, including children. What kept Obama from retaliating?

    Rhodes: I remember meeting in the White House Situation Room with the National Security Council, it was either on a Saturday or a Sunday. The intelligence community said with high confidence that Assad had ordered this chemical attack. I think the general belief of everybody in the room was that we were going to do a military response, and there were very few people who argued against it. The bulk of the advice was, OK, we should attack Syria. Obama essentially told the military to prepare a strike, move whatever aircraft carrier you have to move. But he didn't order a strike. He was worried about a team of UN inspectors on the ground that was collecting samples and investigating what happened. I left that meeting thinking, OK, we're going to bomb Syria in the next couple of days. I actually started planning a communication strategy to make the case for bombing Syria.

    DER SPIEGEL: But nothing happened. Why not?

    Rhodes: Barack Obama felt you had to answer two questions. First, am I justified in taking military action in Syria? The answer was yes. Second, will my military action be effective? His answer was no. In a world in which that UN team hadn't been there, I think he might have sent cruise missiles to Syria. It would have answered the "red line." But frankly, nothing would have changed. Assad would still have been there. The conflict would have gone on.

    DER SPIEGEL: How can you be so sure. Assad may have realized that there was a price to be paid for using chemical weapons.

    Rhodes: Assad was going to fight to the death. He made a decision at the beginning of the conflict that he was going to either remain the leader of Syria, or he was going to die. He wasn't going to negotiate his own removal from power. This is the mistake a lot of the criticism makes: The assumption that if we just bomb them, then maybe he will give up. No. A cruise missile strike would have just been a few more bombs falling on Syria, which is what happened when Trump took action. The only way to get Assad out is to take him out.

    DER SPIEGEL: And that is something that Obama could still have done at that point in time. Russia and Iran were not yet involved.

    Rhodes: There were some advisers who wanted to do that, probably John Kerry, probably me earlier in the crisis. At the same time, I was beginning to question whether military intervention for regime change in the Middle East can ever work. Look at what happened in Libya. You could see that removing someone who is horrible doesn't necessarily make things better. We followed Gadhafi all the way into a drain pipe, and he was killed, and that didn't fix the country either. Again, Obama didn't have enough domestic or international support for a mission in Syria.
     
    Last edited: Feb 11, 2019 at 8:32 AM
  4. GlockJock

    GlockJock NES Member

    Joined:
    Apr 5, 2013
    Messages:
    7,290
    Likes Received:
    2,309
    Location:
    The CommonPuke of LiberChusetts
    What is the deal with Massachusetts people (like PokeAHauntUs) thinking they can run for President?
    You probably are asking this rhetorically, for you probably know darn well (if you're from New England) that the "deal" with them is that they actually believe what people - people WHOM THEY ARE PAYING, TO WORK FOR THEM "ADVISE Them, ETC ETC, are telling them.
    They pay (and have paid, over and over again, year in and year out, for many many decades!) consultants and assistants and campaign "professionals" etc etc etc...who will tell them (and especially, in this current example, Squaw Elizabeth) literally anything and everything they want to hear, literally anything, for instance that they "absolutely have a wonderful chance of winning the Presidency! After all, Liz, you won in Massachusetts and people here are wicked smaht so.. absolutely you can do it!! (as long as you keep signing your name to my paycheck, your highness!!)"

    And you really can't blame the prostitutes and whores for telling them (her) this fantasy-based rubbish. What the hell, it's great work, being a consultant/adviser, doing basically little to nothing.. A few phone calls, a few three-martini lunches and more than a few "I'll get this tab. You just run nice stories in YOUR tab, Mister McGlobie - I mean Mister (Brian) McGrory - and here, put this little envelope towards your new addition to the summer home up in Winnipesaukee and..."

    And so it goes...I mean, hey, as I said, you can't blame these "advisers" either. For just ONE of the paychecks they receive from the Squaw every week? I'd serve her tea and breakfast in her warm bathtub spa every morning, while rubbing and caressing her arms and her thighs, nibble on her ear and whisper softly "Mmmm!!..My goodness, Elizabeth, you truly are BEAUTIFUL! Is this water warm enough baby??"
    Then afterwards I'd vomit repeatedly - in the bathroom I'd request to use at the bank where I'm cashing the incredible check she handed me, the one with so many zeroes after the dollar amount. And then I'd go back for more the next day!.. (and so would most of us reading this forum, regardless of how much we literallly effin despise the disgusting effin skank).

    As long as the check clears.
     
    10thSFFD likes this.
  5. The5thDentist

    The5thDentist NES Life Member NES Member

    Joined:
    Sep 27, 2013
    Messages:
    5,930
    Likes Received:
    2,779
    Location:
    1 mile from freedom

    But what happens when she wants you to go downtown?

    [rofl][rofl][rofl][rofl][rofl]
     
  6. 10thSFFD

    10thSFFD NES Member

    Joined:
    Nov 1, 2013
    Messages:
    16,420
    Likes Received:
    7,255
    Location:
    Camp Deplorable in the Blue Swamp
    When I was in the product development we used to pay public research companies which were suppose to tell us what products customers want. Everybody in our company was taking the collected results seriously. Steve Jobs visited us one day and when we have bored him to death by our stupid presentations he has said that customers can't possibly know what they want unless you are able to show it to them first. He was laughing at our consultants and advisers who at the end just wanted the contract and us paying them huge compensations. Such consultants would never dare to bring us bad news, we would never trust them again.

    Internet changed politics. We do not feel the change yet, but traditional politicians like Warren are operating on assumptions from the last century and thus she is not covering what people want. Majority of people are sick and tired of working, reproducing, building anything, and they just want to be consumers. These masses grow exponentially faster than working class. These masses are composed of rich, poor and the middle class. Many rich people want to do nothing and many middle class people want to do nothing also.

    Warren's speech in Lawrence was like a speech of the socialist from 1890. She is lost. ACD, on the other hand, recognized that her audience is NONWORKING CONSUMER and she is crafting appealing messages for such idiots.
     
    mibro, M125X and Boris like this.
  7. Boris

    Boris Son of Kalashnikov NES Member

    Joined:
    Jan 14, 2011
    Messages:
    17,599
    Likes Received:
    9,423
    Location:
    Back from Motherland

    Watching some news on one of the latest public poll among "Germans", they view America as an enemy and Putin as friendly toward Germany. I probably should find that poll, but "Germany" is all but gone, in some cities Germans are minority now. f*** that country and their defense.
     
  8. 10thSFFD

    10thSFFD NES Member

    Joined:
    Nov 1, 2013
    Messages:
    16,420
    Likes Received:
    7,255
    Location:
    Camp Deplorable in the Blue Swamp
    The good question to answer is why Germany is not Switzerland or Austria? Why?

    I read the same poll. Germans are also SHOCKED by their second generation Turks who are now in German schools and instead of learning English or French as their foreign language they want to pick up Turkish! [slap]

    Typical Germans! If it looks good on the paper IT MUST HAPPEN!

    I am not giving up on Germans, we should be gone from there, no doubt, but Crying Merkel is a history and we do not know what will come next.
     
  9. 10thSFFD

    10thSFFD NES Member

    Joined:
    Nov 1, 2013
    Messages:
    16,420
    Likes Received:
    7,255
    Location:
    Camp Deplorable in the Blue Swamp
    Commies prepping Maine for another invasion of nomads:
    In Maine deaths outnumber births, and the state is grappling with what to do - The Boston Globe
    ---------------
    Somebody needs to calculate the cost of bringing up a child in a working family and compare it with the cost of bringing up a child in a non-working environment. That would be a very good start! Then politicians should tell Mainers what they are planning to do to enable them to have more children with much lower expenses.

    Right now the convenient answer is "bring on more refugees".
     
    Last edited: Feb 11, 2019 at 10:15 AM
    Fixxah and Waher like this.
  10. 10thSFFD

    10thSFFD NES Member

    Joined:
    Nov 1, 2013
    Messages:
    16,420
    Likes Received:
    7,255
    Location:
    Camp Deplorable in the Blue Swamp
  11. Super99Z

    Super99Z NES Member

    Joined:
    Aug 30, 2010
    Messages:
    3,441
    Likes Received:
    1,931
    Location:
    South Shore
  12. Bfatz

    Bfatz

    Joined:
    May 5, 2009
    Messages:
    9,186
    Likes Received:
    4,350
  13. mg42doc

    mg42doc NES Member

    Joined:
    Apr 26, 2007
    Messages:
    2,723
    Likes Received:
    1,047

    I think the population correcting itself is a great thing. We'll need less resources, etc.

    Political class is horrified because that means a drop in tax revenue. It's all about keeping their gravy train rolling.

    The nomads might not pay a lot in income tax, but I'm sure they generate something via the various consumption taxes that exist.
     
    10thSFFD likes this.
  14. Bfatz

    Bfatz

    Joined:
    May 5, 2009
    Messages:
    9,186
    Likes Received:
    4,350
  15. mibro

    mibro NES Member

    Joined:
    Mar 4, 2013
    Messages:
    10,361
    Likes Received:
    6,163
    Location:
    Mass.
    I do too. I don't hate the indigenous people but I despise the traitors who have been in power for - pick a number - 70 years.

    England is a conquered nation and the English hang their heads in sorrow and shame.

    This is entertaining and well written if you're interested in an inside view: Dark Albion: A Requiem for the English
     
    The5thDentist and 10thSFFD like this.
  16. Bfatz

    Bfatz

    Joined:
    May 5, 2009
    Messages:
    9,186
    Likes Received:
    4,350
  17. Bfatz

    Bfatz

    Joined:
    May 5, 2009
    Messages:
    9,186
    Likes Received:
    4,350
  18. Super99Z

    Super99Z NES Member

    Joined:
    Aug 30, 2010
    Messages:
    3,441
    Likes Received:
    1,931
    Location:
    South Shore
    People wonder why Trump has such large turnover on staff, look what these people have to go through.
     
    Jason Flare and Bfatz like this.
  19. 10thSFFD

    10thSFFD NES Member

    Joined:
    Nov 1, 2013
    Messages:
    16,420
    Likes Received:
    7,255
    Location:
    Camp Deplorable in the Blue Swamp
  20. Bfatz

    Bfatz

    Joined:
    May 5, 2009
    Messages:
    9,186
    Likes Received:
    4,350
    The nut jobs have taken over the nut house, and no one is baby sitting. Its amazing how this country manages to function on a daily basis at this stage..These are the people elected to protect me?...and they know whats best for me and my Family? Ya ok ...piss off is my reply to them.
     
    mibro and 10thSFFD like this.
  21. 10thSFFD

    10thSFFD NES Member

    Joined:
    Nov 1, 2013
    Messages:
    16,420
    Likes Received:
    7,255
    Location:
    Camp Deplorable in the Blue Swamp
    Representation? Protection?
    Where are we? EU?
     
    Bfatz likes this.
  22. Bfatz

    Bfatz

    Joined:
    May 5, 2009
    Messages:
    9,186
    Likes Received:
    4,350
    If you research all the BS these people are pushing forth why yes we are the EU...Lite..

    Wealth tax to pay for EU bail-outs

    EU governments announce “green deal” for transport in Europe

    These European Countries Are Embracing Electric Car Adoption

    Swiss firm claims new feed will curb cow farts — and global warming

    The list goes on...

    Feel free to send this to Governor Dip shit at the State House...He seems to be the new Voice of Climate change all of a sudden, Must have been that sweet pay raise and housing stipend that pulled him to the other side so suddenly.


    View: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1RzyeZbqly4
     
    10thSFFD likes this.
  23. GlockJock

    GlockJock NES Member

    Joined:
    Apr 5, 2013
    Messages:
    7,290
    Likes Received:
    2,309
    Location:
    The CommonPuke of LiberChusetts
    10thSFFD and mibro like this.
  24. Bfatz

    Bfatz

    Joined:
    May 5, 2009
    Messages:
    9,186
    Likes Received:
    4,350
  25. M125X

    M125X

    Joined:
    Nov 24, 2013
    Messages:
    1,082
    Likes Received:
    361
    10thSFFD likes this.
  26. Bfatz

    Bfatz

    Joined:
    May 5, 2009
    Messages:
    9,186
    Likes Received:
    4,350
  27. 10thSFFD

    10thSFFD NES Member

    Joined:
    Nov 1, 2013
    Messages:
    16,420
    Likes Received:
    7,255
    Location:
    Camp Deplorable in the Blue Swamp
    Crying Baker does not need money. He is in a dire need of their mercy because of his mini me. They have him forever now.

    We are solving the wrong issue. It is similar to us dying in Afghanistan so decades later we are glad to bring Taliban back. We have to be very careful!

    Our problem is a sheer volume of people who no longer care. This tsunami is going to flood everything. Historically, such problems were solved by frequent wars and bloody conflicts. Somebody published on Youtube old amateur films made in 1938 in Germany. You would expect people marching in brown shirts and lifting their hands pretty high.....Not at all! You see socialists marching with soviet style banners and smiling young people with signs WE WANT CHEAP SUGAR!

    European Union is way ahead of us. They already went crazy and received "their benefit packages". They got their Green New Deals and they did not like it. They also believed us! Merkel would be nobody without Obama.
     
    Bfatz likes this.
  28. CatSnoutSoup

    CatSnoutSoup NES Member

    Joined:
    Jul 9, 2015
    Messages:
    2,109
    Likes Received:
    2,741
    Location:
    Westgardminsterham MA
  29. Bfatz

    Bfatz

    Joined:
    May 5, 2009
    Messages:
    9,186
    Likes Received:
    4,350
    Democrats are just crazy. They actually WANT America to be victimized by illegals! What the hell goes on their heads??? Wake up people!
     
  30. Waher

    Waher NES Member

    Joined:
    Jan 2, 2014
    Messages:
    6,586
    Likes Received:
    3,924
    Location:
    BG&RA, BR&PC

Share This Page