TZCHRIS
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What!
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I know all about it, my buddy was in air force and they coached him on the tinnitus test so he could get more money
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The Marines Are Issuing Silencers to Troops Around the World
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I know all about it, my buddy was in air force and they coached him on the tinnitus test so he could get more money
mibro
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Back in the day in the UK I did some training which involved standing in a slit trench while various small arms calibers were shot a few feet overhead.
A rifle round is supersonic and goes overhead with a distinctive "crack." A suppressor does nothing to quiet that sound, created by the supersonic shock wave.
If you're being shot at by one or two riflemen you can count the time interval between the crack and the following quiet "pop" sound. A little arithmetic gives you an approximate distance to the shooter but I can tell you it's very difficult to determine the direction from that distant "pop" sound. A better way to determine direction is to look for smoke from an over-oiled weapon.
Disclaimer: I have never been in a firefight, my knowledge of this is solely from training.
fencer
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No.
In before grunts start leaving them in the bunker because they weigh 1/2 a pound.
I know the extremes I went to in order to drop weight from my gear. I can't imagine I'm the only one who counts every ounce on my gear when going on long walks in the desert.
I know the extremes I went to in order to drop weight from my gear. I can't imagine I'm the only one who counts every ounce on my gear when going on long walks in the desert.
CRSIII
NES Member
How? Give me a single example in the history of ever where "the military has it" has ever been an argument that anything is "in common use" when it comes to civilians having the thing.
If "military using a thing" had any benefit to the "in common use" part for the rest of us, we'd all have select fire rifles and hand grenades.
AHM
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There's a passage in Ernie Pyle's "Here is Your War" where he describes following in the steps of
a US Army unit on their first march into the hinterlands after their landing in Operation Torch.
The roadside was littered with army blankets - ain't nobody in the infantry got the energy
to carry blankets into the freaking desert in the hot sun.
Opinions reverted as soon as the sun went down and everybody froze their niblets off.
Kinda....
My understanding is that they wanted to put all handguns under the NFA, and therefore had to ban SBRs and SBSs because they were basically pistols. But then pistols got removed from the NFA, and nobody bothered to remove the SBR and SBR language.
That's why it's legal to have a handgun, but illegal to put a forward vertical grip on it.
The case (I think) you're thinking of is Miller, where he had a SBS, and the state argued that because the military didn't use them (they did) they were not protected under the 2nd amendment. But then Miller died and the case was decided by SCOTUS without him or any defense.
I probably have some details wrong, but that's the gist of it.
Tinnitus (ringing in ears) is 10% disabiling if granted. Equals $142.29 a month for life. Don’t even get me started on VA math
one-eyed Jack
Manufacturer
Waiting for the CMP to start selling them. Jack.
Also, hope you picked a good armorer who can keep track of all the sensitive items properly. ... or at least is resourceful enough to stash spares or barter for replacements of some things when possible.
oldguy68
NES Member
How can being able to better focus on the fight and hear voice commands easier be a bad thing.
Look how long it took the military to adapt the ACOG or red dot sights?
Less cases of hearing loss will save the tax payer in less than a years time of VA disability payments.
This should have been implemented years ago.
Now I know that it won't fit every operational requirement but it will help with focusing on the treat during an engagement.
This is like when the army and Marines went with body armour.
It's a win, for the troops, bean counters and effectiveness in a combat environment.
Look how long it took the military to adapt the ACOG or red dot sights?
Less cases of hearing loss will save the tax payer in less than a years time of VA disability payments.
This should have been implemented years ago.
Now I know that it won't fit every operational requirement but it will help with focusing on the treat during an engagement.
This is like when the army and Marines went with body armour.
It's a win, for the troops, bean counters and effectiveness in a combat environment.
Parker Schreiber
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Unfortunately, reducing flash signature is one of the rationale given for the Marine but. Quoting the linked to article:
“The suppressor reduces their audible and visual signature, making it more difficult for the enemy to ascertain their location.”
That’s exactly the argument asserted by those opposing civilian use of suppressors.
Varmint
NES Member
Yeah of course, but anyone using them or hearing them will quickly realize they’re still friggin loud.
groundscrapers
NES Member
you don't want those NT4's new let alone beat to shit lmao
Cap'n Mike
NES Member
The only part you missed is that SCOTUS cherry picked the case because they wanted to declare the NFA Constitutional.
one-eyed Jack
Manufacturer
True. Some 07s I know have built some just for fun and they shit the bed real fast on full auto even when run wet. Jack.
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