The Gun Sanctuary Movement Is Exploding

[Reptile]

There’s a key legal difference between sanctuaries for immigrants and sanctuaries for guns.
Conservatives have railed for years against so-called sanctuary jurisdictions, criticizing localities that refuse to cooperate with federal immigration policies they deem heartless and ineffective. In the past year, however, some conservative lawmakers have taken a page from the progressive playbook, employing sanctuary imagery in opposition to gun safety legislation they deem to be an unconstitutional restriction of their rights under the Second Amendment.

The two approaches are classic cases of false equivalency. Jurisdictions that proclaim themselves sanctuaries for immigrants do not seek to violate the law; they simply refuse to engage local law enforcement in supporting actions that are federal responsibilities. They do not block the law, but simply insist that it should be enforced by those who have the responsibility to do so. For some proponents of so-called gun sanctuaries, however, the goal is to prevent enforcement of state law that the jurisdiction (not a court) deems unconstitutional.

The Gun Sanctuary Movement Is Exploding in Virginia

In the weeks since Virginia Democrats won the statehouse, at least 71 places have passed gun sanctuary resolutions.

slate.com

If NH goes all anti gun, I predict there will be sanctuaries.

 

[Rekonn]

 

[Rekonn]

View: https://youtu.be/IK5a_6AScGA

 

[Boris]

They do not block the law, but simply insist that it should be enforced by those who have the responsibility to do so.

or they do block the law, they totally do, remember this MAss judge?

if district court judge is so brazen, you figure out the kind of shit really goes on with rank and file functionaries.


The key difference is that 2a is the "law of the land" and for close to 100 years we have been accepting straight up infringements and entire agencies, both fed and state which sole reason IS to infringe.

So no, I don't see any commonalities here at all. On one hand libtards are abbeting climinals, on the other we want law and order as outlined by the Constitution.

 

[peterk123]

I think it could easily be argued that you cannot have a law that contradicts something that is in our Bill of Rights. Therefore, no law is being blocked. I am not a lawyer though, but I do like my rationale

Pete

 

[AFVet]

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Wow, that changed a lot from the first map i saw !

 

[10thSFFD]

or they do block the law, they totally do, remember this MAss judge?

if district court judge is so brazen, you figure out the kind of shit really goes on with rank and file functionaries.


The key difference is that 2a is the "law of the land" and for close to 100 years we have been accepting straight up infringements and entire agencies, both fed and state which sole reason IS to infringe.

So no, I don't see any commonalities here at all. On one hand libtards are abbeting climinals, on the other we want law and order as outlined by the Constitution.

 

[10thSFFD]

View: https://youtu.be/IK5a_6AScGA

 

[Tater]

Legally saying that you are a 2a sanctuary city means that you are looking to obey the federal law saying the 2nd ammendment shall not be infringed. Hence you are protecting a constitutional right. Liberals and their sanctuary cities are protecting people who are non citizen criminals who have broken the law just by being here. Liberal reps are re not back to ng up the constitution, they are going against it.

 

[Twigg]

Time for the second battle of Athens ?

 

[MaverickNH]

2nd Amendment sanctuaries spread; gun control groups warn of consequences

Gun control advocates say the sanctuaries could be costly, in both lives and legal fees.

www.wdbj7.com

"Tirschwell argues the resolutions are problematic for a number of reasons, most importantly, he says, because they put lives at risk. "These resolutions could have, and threaten to have, a chilling effect on people who might otherwise use, or take advantage of gun safety laws to try to prevent harm, like a suicide, a homicide or even a mass shooting," he said."

AWB didn't work in the US for 10 years. UBCs didn't work in CA for 10 years. Red Flags/ERPOs didn't lower suicide rates in IN and CT over 15-20 years.

Not enforcing gun laws that don't work can "put lives at risk"?

 

[Varmint]

I feel like historians might look back and say this was the start of the splintering of the US. It could spread like wildfire until each town or state begins to pick and choose which state or federal laws it wants to ignore.

It's a good thing, imo - when governments get out of control, you need drastic responses.

 

[Jktu-B]

My only question is - who elected those, then?

 

[10thSFFD]

The rising threat of âgun sanctuariesâ - The Boston Globe

A few New England towns have joined the misguided Second Amendment sanctuary movement. It’s dangerous.

www.bostonglobe.com

The nationwide rise of so-called Second Amendment sanctuary jurisdictions, where local governments pass ordinances vowing not to enforce state or federal gun-control laws, has quickened since then. More than 400 municipalities in 20 states, including at least one city in Maine, and a few in Vermont and Rhode Island, have declared themselves such sanctuaries. In Virginia — where a recent pro-gun rally drew thousands of Second Amendment advocates and fully armed militia to protest a strict new state gun law — more than 120 cities, towns, and counties enacted similar resolutions in a two-month period.

With these resolutions, local elected officials say they will refuse to enforce gun laws they feel are unconstitutional, such as the so-called red flag or “extreme risk” regulations that 17 states have passed, which let family members or law enforcement ask a judge to temporarily remove guns from someone who seems to be a risk to themselves or others.

Of course, local officials can’t make constitutional determinations, and the Supreme Court — which can — has established that the right afforded by the Second Amendment is not unlimited. In 2008, the Supreme Court took its last major gun case, where Justice Antonin Scalia, in the majority opinion, wrote that the right of the people to keep and bear arms is “not a right to keep and carry any weapon whatsoever in any manner whatsoever and for whatever purpose.”

Gun safety advocates fear that Second Amendment sanctuary policies could have real-life consequences. For instance, a resident of one of those towns might not report a loved one in legal possession of a gun who may be at risk of committing suicide, homicide, or even a mass shooting if they feel that their local sheriff will not enforce a judge’s order to remove that person’s gun.

The gun sanctuary movement took its name from the trend among liberal jurisdictions to label themselves sanctuary cities where local police won’t cooperate with immigration authorities. But as those cities and states have found, there’s really no such thing as sanctuary from the federal government for immigrants, and indeed there can be severe consequences for local officials who try to skirt federal law. Liberal cities made a misleading promise to immigrants without legal status — which conservative jurisdictions now seem intent to imitate with their gun policies.

That cities and towns of all political stripes increasingly feel pressure from citizens to nullify state and federal laws is a symptom of political dysfunction and polarization. But it’s also a dangerous trend that risks actual harm. Proponents of Second Amendment sanctuary may think they’re standing on principle, but by sowing confusion they’re just putting their communities — including gun owners themselves — at risk.

 

[Wildcard]

The article brings up the Heller case and the majority opinion but what confuses me is how progressives take this to mean "military style" weapons can be banned. Wasn't the case based around a Beretta 92/M9, a military weapon? I understand why the anti's would never bring that up but no one on the gun side does either.

 

[42!]

Really? Where?

In Virginia — where a recent pro-gun rally drew thousands of Second Amendment advocates and fully armed militia to protest a strict new state gun law

They seem to have changed their tune when it comes to sanctuary cities. Not all that long ago it was all ok, but now that it's a cause they don't agree with....
Boston Globe - Sanctuary cities’ have the law on their side