He provided them with his shop/range as a sound stage to film the entire piece, and gave them ammo to use as props. He gave them quotes to use and twist; we only know the ones we've seen on TV (who knows what else was said) but the simple answer with the media and guns is to simply SAY NOTHING because it will be twisted. This braindead piece of shit invited the devil into his home and helped sell us all down the river; this wasn't a cold call or a man on the street interview, he facilitated the whole thing.
-
If you enjoy the forum please consider supporting it by signing up for a NES Membership The benefits pay for the membership many times over.
The Gun Parlor helping the antis..
- Thread starter Lip
- Start date
He provided them with his shop/range as a sound stage to film the entire piece, and gave them ammo to use as props. He gave them quotes to use and twist; we only know the ones we've seen on TV (who knows what else was said) but the simple answer with the media and guns is to simply SAY NOTHING because it will be twisted. This braindead piece of shit invited the devil into his home and helped sell us all down the river; this wasn't a cold call or a man on the street interview, he facilitated the whole thing.
They allowed themselves to get used to lend legitimacy to an anti gun hit piece- that end of it is mostly guilt by association kind of thing. Even if he never once said this, the optics readout is going to be "look businblah, there's even a gun dealer that said that people are breaking a law by getting ammo without having to show an LTC" .
Let's put it this way... it's like showing up at a Klan rally and going "I like everything about the KKK except for their racist policy, they have a lot of good values" or "Hitler was a very good nationalist, I just didn't agree with him about the way he treated the jews, but outside of that, he was a great guy. "
![[rolleyes]](/xen/styles/default/xenforo/smilies.vb/042.gif "Roll Eyes [rolleyes]")
You can't even consort or get near those kinds of people without getting shit on your hands. " Boston media talking about guns" is exactly the same thing. Teachable Moment: When is the last time a Boston TV news station has aired anything remotely pro-gun worthy on a primetime TV news lot?
-Mike
DPR
NES Member
This is true. The amount of anti-gun gun owners is staggering.
You may be right but I still have a feeling TGP and WCVB were in cohoots. Again the whole line about the troubled licensed gun owner - total trope in this ongoing narrative - and he's worried by thousands upon thousands of rounds being ordered no questions asked...and all they order for the actual story is 9 boxes of .40? Not buying it. Sounds like to me they needed to come up with a cover story for who really squawked on TS after they had done their purchase from TS and got a little too excited with the embellished details.
Last edited:
Editor
NES Member
SUGGESTION: Read before writing.
I'm not going to ascribe malice to GP's actions when they can easily be explained by stupidity. Lots of gun shops would love to be able to promote their business in a positive way, it's just that its patently obvious to me that GP was told and what actually happened were likely two different things... and also that, no thought was given to any potential bad optics of a news station spinning the shit out of something.
We've seen this movie before, remember? It happened to MFS a couple of years ago. What they thought, going in, was going to be an informational piece was quickly re-articulated and spun into an anti gun screed/narrative about "assault weapons" on television in the blink of an eye.
-Mike
yup...totally agree.
You could be right. That may be the simplest answer to all this. But the longer TGP goes without making some kind of comment to abdicate themselves from conspiracy in this, the worse it looks for them. They had time to pull down their Facebook review section but no public comment to flesh out their side in all of this? At least MFS came out within a day or two of when the 7/20/16 Interp broke and tried to save face.
Last edited:
jason19711971
NES Member
I bet a lot of old friends from Rhode Island and New Hampshire are getting calls from their old buds from Mass lol
The company selling the ammo, not illegally mind you, may like many others ahead of them decide it is not worth the trouble and just say no shipping to MA.
OK so you ship it to a friend in NH, which is great as long as they don't pull the " your credit card is billed to a MA address we won't do it" BS.
OK so you ship it to a friend in NH, which is great as long as they don't pull the " your credit card is billed to a MA address we won't do it" BS.
In God We Trust
NES Member
They allowed themselves to get used to lend legitimacy to an anti gun hit piece- that end of it is mostly guilt by association kind of thing. Even if he never once said this, the optics readout is going to be "look businblah, there's even a gun dealer that said that people are breaking a law by getting ammo without having to show an LTC" .
Let's put it this way... it's like showing up at a Klan rally and going "I like everything about the KKK except for their racist policy, they have a lot of good values" or "Hitler was a very good nationalist, I just didn't agree with him about the way he treated the jews, but outside of that, he was a great guy. "
Teachable Moment: When is the last time a Boston TV news station has aired anything remotely pro-gun worthy on a primetime TV news lot?
-Mike
Ok, I get what you're saying, but maybe the got conned by the news. It wouldn't be the first time they have done something like that. All he did really was tell them what any other shop in MA would have told them. He pretty much just recited the law. Unless there is more to the story that I am missing, it seems pretty harmless.
I should say that I know nothing about this shop or the owner. Never been in there
Get a CC using your friends address, might lower your limit, but it should work AFAIK.
Seems there Facebook reviews have been removed. Pussies!!!!
Example;
Chris Walsh, MA State Representative, gun owner, and "friend" (his own words to me) of Maura Healey and fully supports her actions. Oddly enough I think he's a reasonably nice guy and has always been willing to discuss the issues, even though we don't agree.
slugworth
NES Member
The review section's are gone now.
I love how you ignore what is right in front of you, seems to be a habit of yours. They gave them use of their range for a soundstage, shut down to let them film their hit piece there, and provided the ammo for them to use in their video. They are neck deep in this, there is no possible way they did not know what they were doing was stupid and was going to be anti gun.
Even if they were not the original people who blew the whistle on the online ammo seller (Still in the air) they went out of their way to help cut them off at the knees, likely seeing profit in knocking out a competitor. I hope, even if it is not likely, that they lose their business over it and wind up on the streets with their families starving. They deserve it, as enemies of a basic right willing to try to profit off of those of us who try to protect it.
Beretta92FS
NES Member
Another option, buy one time use credit cards at any supermarket gift card kiosk.
I think you can put up to $500.00 on them, service fee is something like $5.00 - $7.00.
If you're using it for online purchases, you have to register it.
Just enter your friends mailing address when filling out the registration form.
BREWINZ
NES Member
.
Last edited:
If you have someone with an unlimited bankroll and nearly unlimited lawyer hours that operates out of a favorable state court system threatening to drive you into the ground then it becomes your problem...right or wrong
MachineHead
NES Member
I see we still love the pain. Keep all workarounds to yourself.
thank god we still have Amazon and ebay and CL 
- Joined
- Nov 21, 2012
- Messages
- 2,775
- Likes
- 1,269
- Joined
- Apr 24, 2005
- Messages
- 47,517
- Likes
- 33,530
The constitution requires that all states give "full faith and credit" to the acts of other states.
This means that a civil judgement issued by a MMC (MA Marsupial Court) is collectable from defendants in other states. Think of it as an extradition treaty for money.
It is also why the courts in NY have upheld the validity of a Vaughn Declaration demand from a MA court. A Vaughn Declaration is a requirement that the parents or grandparents of a divorcing couple provide their son/daughter in-law's attorney with a detailed net worth statement and copies of their estate planning documents so said information can be used against their child when determining an "equitable split" of marital assets. A NY couple tried to avoid providing the info, but the courts held that the "full faith and credit" clause required the NY courts to enforce the MA order.
Last edited:
Interesting information. How do they collect a judgement? Can one state seize assets in another state? Or does the Sheriff in the state/county of the business have to enforce the MA order? Can said Sheriff refuse to "work with sanctuary/confiscatory states"? LOL
Rockrivr1
NES Member
Just change the billing address on your CC before placing your order. Then once it's done, change it back.
Some CCs allow for multiple verification addresses on file so when the vendor does a verify to the "foreign" address, it will pass, no need to change the entire thing. I used to have to do this for computer parts when I'd have stuff sent to my office one town away from the billing address.
-Mike
- Joined
- Apr 24, 2005
- Messages
- 47,517
- Likes
- 33,530
Or buy a prepaid credit card.
Similar threads
