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The Democrats Will Never Confiscate Your Guns. Instead, You’ll Hand them Over.

Anyone here from MA with a pinned stock and welded comp is already playing the government game. The AG ban transfers has already worked. Anyone who EFA-10's a private sale gun has already set themselves up for surrender.

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Anyone here from MA with a pinned stock and welded comp is already playing the government game. The AG ban transfers has already worked. Anyone who EFA-10's a private sale gun has already set themselves up for surrender.

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I disagree. There is a big difference between trying to comply with the rules so you don't get jammed up going to range with your toys and lining up to turn them in. That being said, this latest stunt by the AG has made plenty of folks no longer care about compliance anymore since the "rules" can be changed on a whim apparently.
 
I disagree. There is a big difference between trying to comply with the rules so you don't get jammed up going to range with your toys and lining up to turn them in. That being said, this latest stunt by the AG has made plenty of folks no longer care about compliance anymore since the "rules" can be changed on a whim apparently.
Guy, I can't even keep up with the bs laws anymore. How many times has the broad tried explaining the reinterpretation?

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Maura did what she did and 2k gun owners (0.5%) showed up to protest, RHINO governor did nothing, neither did NRA. Her "interpretation" stands.

Expand your mind people, on internet, everyone is up for dying in a blaze of glory until it's time, then everyone is headed to the beach or didn't hear about, etc.

Maura can instruct chiefs to renew LTC on condition of bringing your "arsenal" into "compliance". There will be moans, there will be lawsuits, there will be appeals to NRA, but at the end most WILL comply and not a drop of blood will be shed.

What OP describes is full on commie-regime, we are not quiet there yet, but we are headed there full steam.
 
the military going door to door to confiscate guns is about as unrealistic as it gets.

Tell that to the people in New Orleans after Katrina

Maura did what she did and 2k gun owners (0.5%) showed up to protest, RHINO governor did nothing, neither did NRA. Her "interpretation" stands.

Expand your mind people, on internet, everyone is up for dying in a blaze of glory until it's time, then everyone is headed to the beach or didn't hear about, etc.

Maura can instruct chiefs to renew LTC on condition of bringing your "arsenal" into "compliance". There will be moans, there will be lawsuits, there will be appeals to NRA, but at the end most WILL comply and not a drop of blood will be shed.

What OP describes is full on commie-regime, we are not quiet there yet, but we are headed there full steam.

If this shit happens, my non-compliant stuff is moving out of state. I will be following it shortly thereafter.
 
Tell that to the people in New Orleans after Katrina

I was a Marine sent down to the Katrina relief operation. We grabbed a grand total of zero guns, hell, we didn't even have our own with us. The ones who did were undisciplined National Guard troops, and that was localized to New Orleans, from my understanding.
 
When Hillary wins, and stacks the Supreme Court, it won't be long before the Mass model is nationwide. There will be nowhere to run.

Sure there will.

Look at how this went in NY and CT. The compliance rate with "register or turn in your evil assault weapons" is tiny. There is no support or desire by the local LEO to confiscate, investigate, or even ask about them.

If this goes national, you will see the same thing from many states. Sure, it will be "the law of the land" but few will enforce it. I suspect there will even be local or state level laws that are put in place to try to prevent the enforcement of the federal law. See sanctuary cities and Real ID for examples.
 
I was a Marine sent down to the Katrina relief operation. We grabbed a grand total of zero guns, hell, we didn't even have our own with us. The ones who did were undisciplined National Guard troops, and that was localized to New Orleans, from my understanding.

1) Thank you for your service
2) 'Undisciplined National Guard Troops' were still under the flag of .gov. So were the local police.

The NY Times (hardly a right-wing tinfoil source) reported confiscations were taking place at the behest of the local .gov http://www.nytimes.com/2005/09/09/us/nationalspecial/police-begin-seizing-guns-of-civilians.html
 
1) Thank you for your service
2) 'Undisciplined National Guard Troops' were still under the flag of .gov. So were the local police.

The NY Times (hardly a right-wing tinfoil source) reported confiscations were taking place at the behest of the local .gov http://www.nytimes.com/2005/09/09/us/nationalspecial/police-begin-seizing-guns-of-civilians.html


"Individuals are at risk of dying," said P. Edwin Compass III, the superintendent of the New Orleans police. "There's nothing more important than the preservation of human life."

So we send in guys who have permission to kill you...

 
1) Thank you for your service
2) 'Undisciplined National Guard Troops' were still under the flag of .gov. So were the local police.

The NY Times (hardly a right-wing tinfoil source) reported confiscations were taking place at the behest of the local .gov http://www.nytimes.com/2005/09/09/us/nationalspecial/police-begin-seizing-guns-of-civilians.html

Thank you for your support, it was my pleasure.

I don't contest that it didn't take place, but everything I've seen either first hand or in media later suggested it was confined to democrat controlled NOLA. Part of our relief op was getting Slidell, LA, a suburb of New Orleans, up an running. There were many, many people with guns and they told us as much.
 
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Thank you for your support, it was my pleasure.

I don't contest that it didn't take place, but everything I've seen either first hand or in media later suggested it was confined to democrat controlled NOLA. Part of our relief op was getting Slidell, LA, a suburb of New Orleams, up an running. There were many, many people with guns and they told us as much.

FWIW, a friend of mine was one of those National Guard guys sent there. He told me how his Lt. told the unit that they were ordered to confiscate any gun in civilian hands. He then said the Lt. then ordered them to not see any guns in civilian hands.

He also said he never wants to see another floating bloated corpse again.
 
Not to toot my own horn, but I've been echoing a similar argument almost daily at my gun counter. The OP is 100% correct. It has more to do even with firearms. Given that computing technological development is exponential, within a decade we'll have intuitive software and programs that can predict your behavior better than YOU can. Sadly, even with privately owned F22s you can't fight that level of intelligence.

If I had a dollar for every uneducated idiot that truly believes there will be a "come and take it" revolution I'd be retired at 27.

The absolute only way to preserve firearm freedom is constant education and voting. Hopefully we'll have something left after Hillary's last 30 year old Supreme Court appointee retires besides single shot 16 gauges...
 
Sure there will.

Look at how this went in NY and CT. The compliance rate with "register or turn in your evil assault weapons" is tiny. There is no support or desire by the local LEO to confiscate, investigate, or even ask about them.

If this goes national, you will see the same thing from many states. Sure, it will be "the law of the land" but few will enforce it. I suspect there will even be local or state level laws that are put in place to try to prevent the enforcement of the federal law. See sanctuary cities and Real ID for examples.


Well, that kind of how most infringements, and not only on guns work, the law gets on books, 10-15 years down the road the enforcement is stepped up, there is little will to overturn the existing law, people who made the law since retired with full accolades and no one is keeping the promise ... kind of like mAss pike tolls?

We'll probably see a few people loose their "evil" rifles thanks to restraining order and no one will care about those "wife-beaters", then it would be the turn of few camo-wearing "nuts" and people are going to say that they had it coming. People who have 10 expensive Clitoris (clitori?) shotguns and an impulse buy AR will give up their black rifle to keep shooting trap legally.


In terms of taking your kids ... your leftie neighbor doesn't have to steal your Trump sign, they'll wait until your kid slips on a rock and then they are calling DSS about you hitting your kid with a baseball bat. Too much? It's not, US is divided more than ever, back in Soviet Union neighbors squealed on neighbors, mistresses, more successful co-workers. See something, say something, comrades.
 
Except that people have their assets frozen and their kids taken by CPS every day and I've yet to see a mass uprising or even a significant number of shooting sprees because of it. Oh, you thought they'd announce on 6pm news that they're freezing all the assets of all the gun owners so we'd all know it was happening? Nope. Never going to happen. If this happens to you, you'll think you're the only one. I remember about 3 or 4 years ago there were a couple of cases one summer of some guys barricaded in their homes because the government was going to seize the property for failure to pay taxes. I didn't see a bunch of 2A supporters running out to start a revolution over either case and that is exactly what I would expect the scenario the author described to look like if it ever happened - a handful here and a handful there until they're all gone. Hell, if they go down that road, I bet the NSA just tags on a "let's report this guy is suspect of child porn" to the file when they come after folks who are vocal on NES, just for fun.

Fortunately, I don't believe it will ever come to either the scenario above or the door-to-door cops. Those who own the system already have everything they want. The system produces plenty of wealth, power, and influence already, why bother with the effort of confiscations, camps, and all that other tinfoil hat nonsense? The rancher doesn't need to trap all his sheep in individual pens, he just has to know they'll stay in his field and can be sheared on a regular basis, regardless of what grass they eat and how they choose to bleat at one another. In fact, to much control reduces the output of the system.

You under-estimate the psychopaths that run this govt by a great deal. These people can NEVER have enough wealth, power, and CONTROL. Is $250M enough for Killary? No. She needs to be ****in POTUS to grow that to $1B or $2B or $10B. Was putting ALMOST every rancher in Clark County out of business "enough"?!? NO! They needed to put EVERY rancher out of of business!
 
In a vacuum...yes could happen. If this scenario were real...which foreign gov't would line up behind gun owners? Russia? China? Mexico? Who would benefit from a Civil war? America will be much weaker no matter the outcome.
 
In a vacuum...yes could happen. If this scenario were real...which foreign gov't would line up behind gun owners? Russia? China? Mexico? Who would benefit from a Civil war? America will be much weaker no matter the outcome.

No one who held a shit-ton of treasury notes would. A new .gov could declare the old .gov's 20 trillion in debt null and void
 
Sure there will.

Look at how this went in NY and CT. The compliance rate with "register or turn in your evil assault weapons" is tiny. There is no support or desire by the local LEO to confiscate, investigate, or even ask about them.

If this goes national, you will see the same thing from many states. Sure, it will be "the law of the land" but few will enforce it. I suspect there will even be local or state level laws that are put in place to try to prevent the enforcement of the federal law. See sanctuary cities and Real ID for examples.

Gun grabbers are playing the long game. Sure you can keep your black guns. But even today in Mass, you aren't buying any new ones, are you? Your kids are getting fed the liberal party line all day long in school, already damn few young people are interested in guns. How much fun are you going to have with your evil rifle if you have to keep it hidden, and are afraid to take it to the range?

In a generation or two, gun ownership will be an extreme fringe activity. Fortunately I won't be here to see it.
 
The Alloutdoors article sounds like more paranoia. True that government won't spend the money to confiscate when they could simply opt for forced surrender of firearms, but it's more likely they will make gun ownership impossible for those are who are not in the ruling class. Consider not being able to have homeowner's, auto, or health insurance, do banking, or get an auto loan because you own firearms. The state could also decide your home is too dangerous an environment for your children if you own firearms. I'm sure the state could come up with many more techniques for making practical gun ownership completely unmanageable for the little people.
 
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