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I get the point of the article, but cmon. I lost all my guns when I took the old dinghy in the back yard out for a deep sea fishing trip.
Yes, many people will just turn in their guns. That isn't news. But freezing assets and taking peoples' kids away will cause them to start shooting. For some people it would be more of a catalyst than actual firearm confiscation.
The author of that tripe is a PUSSY.
Except that people have their assets frozen and their kids taken by CPS every day and I've yet to see a mass uprising or even a significant number of shooting sprees because of it. Oh, you thought they'd announce on 6pm news that they're freezing all the assets of all the gun owners so we'd all know it was happening? Nope. Never going to happen. If this happens to you, you'll think you're the only one.
Oh sure, you may have gotten your hands on a few guns that would be impossible to trace, even by the NSA. Maybe you inherited a long gun from your grandpa, or maybe you met a guy in a gun show parking lot and paid cash and then never Googled anything related to that gun. So here’s a question for you: how many people like you exist, and how many of those type guns are suitable for urban combat against AR-15s with state-of-the-art optics?
something the author is not factoring is that once they declare everything illegal not everyone is going to turn them in, and not everyone of those who dont turn them in are going to sit around and pout about it in mom's basement. once a few of the politicians who voted for it, LE bigwigs who endorse and enforce it, national guard commanders who order their people to enforce it etc get snuffed on their way to get the paper out of the mailbox or put their kids on the bus in the morning it will force .gov to start laying down the heavy hand, and thats when shit will go full retard.
You'll think that. I can work my trade under the table all day long. Plus .gov trained me on ieds till my eyes bled.
As long as you and your customers have cash.... I think the next step in the U.S. game is elimination of currency....
People don't even ask for cash discounts anymore (auto repair) . I'm not sure what direction we are going in ..... I'm just sad that there are people in U.S. government that will do anything against the people....
If I may point out the obvious.......if you dont want to someday live under a government that is unlawful and has ZERO fidelity to the constitution then get involved and ensure that your vote counts/elect sane reps/sens/other that are accountable
How many of you have volunteered to help ANYONE's campaign so far in 2016?
If people cant do the easy stuff now like get involved in electing good people......do you really think they have the resolve to do anything to stop the future tyrants/criminals?
... and the cops ain't coming to your door with them, they are locals, they also like their lives, and the majority like firearms...
I take issue with the majority liking firearms. Do you mean they like that they personally have them or they like the idea of common firearm possesion?
I say this because its been said by actual police officers on this very board that actual firearm passion aka "gun nut" is an extreme minority within police departments.
So please correct my interpretation with your factual based data if you could. I was under the assumed impression that most were cool in that regard but have since had my eyes opened. please help me they are tearing over...
We may end up looking like the aggressors, but this scenario will not play out like the OP suggests. A letter in the mail informing 'us' to turn in guns, only allows more time for 'our' side to organize. Also, CPS agents will quit before risking their lives in said scenario, and the cops ain't coming to your door with them, they are locals, they also like their lives, and the majority like firearms. Point is, any resemblance of 'rule of law' will evaporate in this scenario.
You're absolutely right. CPS agents won't risk their lives to enforce gun laws. HOWEVER, I bet almost every single one of them would line up to go into your child's elementary school to meet with the principal to take your little girl down to the police station after being told "we have to go pick this child up because we just got a court order finding her father an imminent threat to her safety". The first you hear of it will be a phone call by a police officer saying "Sir, we need you to come down to the station right away, your daughter is here and we need to speak to you".
Unless you're self employed and home schooling your kids, that's a likely approach. There's also the good old fashioned tactic of sending a couple of officers to your job to bring you down to the station for 'questioning'.
As for a letter that will get 'our' side to organize, what do you think 7/20 was here in MA? The AG has already given all of us notice that our ARs are illegal and she's just choosing not to enforce it just yet.
This country may see a civil war 2.0 (hopefully we never come to that) but I can guarantee you that the first few hundred in that war will be killed by police with no more notice than a thread on here titled "looks like this guy thought it was Go Time" where we all laugh at the lone nut who went on a shooting spree.
These tactics will only work on a small scale. The level of compliance at multiple levels makes this unrealistic. A modification to the US constitution is the most likely way to confiscation. The military will be forced to back it up, the states will have no say. Like you say civil war 2.0.
You're absolutely right. CPS agents won't risk their lives to enforce gun laws. HOWEVER, I bet almost every single one of them would line up to go into your child's elementary school to meet with the principal to take your little girl down to the police station after being told "we have to go pick this child up because we just got a court order finding her father an imminent threat to her safety". The first you hear of it will be a phone call by a police officer saying "Sir, we need you to come down to the station right away, your daughter is here and we need to speak to you".
Unless you're self employed and home schooling your kids, that's a likely approach. There's also the good old fashioned tactic of sending a couple of officers to your job to bring you down to the station for 'questioning'.
As for a letter that will get 'our' side to organize, what do you think 7/20 was here in MA? The AG has already given all of us notice that our ARs are illegal and she's just choosing not to enforce it just yet.
This country may see a civil war 2.0 (hopefully we never come to that) but I can guarantee you that the first few hundred in that war will be killed by police with no more notice than a thread on here titled "looks like this guy thought it was Go Time" where we all laugh at the lone nut who went on a shooting spree.
the military going door to door to confiscate guns is about as unrealistic as it gets.
Unlkely for the military to go for mass confiscation? yup. More likely than my 'local police officer' enforcing mass confiscation? yup.
Just remember when you work for DOD you swear to protect the constitution of the US. which right now guarantees a right to bear arms. IF the amendment process is followed and the constitution is amended, the military will have to back that up as well.
They'll try an illegal end run, like they always do.