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Did you ask why he asked this?
The dog question is all for their database. They want to ensure the federal agents are prepared when they come back to take them.
double tapping the dog when they come to take the firearms is SOP.
And, for having my 03FFL, one of the deals is you're subject to suprise inspections. I find it very cool of him to call me ahead of time to work out a time to go over my books..
double tapping the dog when they come to take the firearms is SOP.
Incorrect. You're confusing 01 (or 02/06/07, etc) with 03 Collector. 18 USC 923 specifically covers this. As a Collector, they will always call to make an appointment for the inspection, as you as a collector, don't exactly have "hours."
As has been covered, you are specifically entitled to make an appointment and go to see them for the inspection, which is not exactly consistent with surprise, is it?
ATF: "SURPRISE!! We're here to inspect!"
You: "You know, now is not good. How about next Friday at 3:00? Your place?"
ATF: "Oh, OK. See you then. "
Not saying you should go to them; just saying it's not a "surprise" inspection.
In addition, I would never answer any non-FFL questions, i.e. dogs, rooms, etc.
I find this disturbing and believe he's mixing up the rules for 01s with 03s. 01s MUST keep their personal collections separate from their business inventory. 03s are NOT Dealers and thus all our guns are our "personal collection", therefore there is no need to segregate C&Rs from modern guns or tag them. Some of us have more than 2 C&Rs and multiple safes might be nice to have but aren't always practical for money and space reasons. And I've always hated the idea of "segregation" anyhow!! As someone who believes in equality for all, I believe that all my guns are entitled to mingle with whatever they like at any time . . . the C&Rs should NOT have to sit in the back of the bus!
Well now I'm wondering whether I've misunderstood the process all along. I keep two sets of records one for C&R purchases and sales and another for FFL01 and FA-10 purchases and sales. Should I reconsider - or does it really matter?
My official BB meets the C&R FFL requirements and only logs C&Rs acquired/disposed of during the time I have been so licensed.
I sorta do the same. My second set of records includes EVERYTHING and I use that for insurance and personal purposes. Any agency that wants that info must show a warrant to get it or I would not show it to them.
My official BB meets the C&R FFL requirements and only logs C&Rs acquired/disposed of during the time I have been so licensed.
In Fiscal Year 2007, ATF conducted approximately 10,000 compliance inspections. More than 40 percent of the licensees inspected were determined to be in full compliance with the law and regulations and no violations were cited.
Oh, and when I asked why the hidden room and big dog questions, I was told it was "in case we need to come back some day". It certainly left me with a warm, fuzzy feeling about my government.
Abstract WHAT IF thought of the day.
BATFE is deemed superfluous and closed down as of 12/31/2010.
What happens to their records?
I'd gather the dog question, along with the 'any hidden rooms?' question are designed to hint at the possibility of a raid in order to provoke you into saying something you shouldn't. It's like a criminal profiling screener question.
Just wondering, what happens if a C&R FFL doesn't have their BB in order? Is there a fine or jail time or do they lose their license or have a period of time to get it in order?
Thanks for adding yet another level of paranoia to an already overloaded mental database.
Just wondering, what happens if a C&R FFL doesn't have their BB in order? Is there a fine or jail time or do they lose their license or have a period of time to get it in order?