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I assume you are now helping protect our border with out a paycheck. For that I thank you. I know you will eventually be paid, but I'd hate to be going to work every day without the promise of a regular check. Of course, according to Article 1, Section 6, all congresscritters must be paid, and none of them are much worried about the kind of dangers you face.
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My son has been away at some sort of Army training for a couple weeks. Fortunately today is the last day.

The dining hall contractors did not show up today. Essentially they got a scoop of crappy rice for lunch. They're hoping to get permission to order Domino's pizza for delivery on base, as they are not allowed to leave.

Those who we rely on the most get the short end of this stick.
 

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I assume you are now helping protect our border with out a paycheck. For that I thank you. I know you will eventually be paid, but I'd hate to be going to work every day without the promise of a regular check. Of course, according to Article 1, Section 6, all congresscritters must be paid, and none of them are much worried about the kind of dangers you face.
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I assume you are now helping protect our border with out a paycheck. For that I thank you. I know you will eventually be paid, but I'd hate to be going to work every day without the promise of a regular check. Of course, according to Article 1, Section 6, all congresscritters must be paid, and none of them are much worried about the kind of dangers you face.
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If any government employee is still working, it's because they are deemed essential personnel. All such employees will continue to get paid in a timely manner. All NON-ESSENTIAL personnel get the time off until the government is no longer "shut down" and then they will get back pay for the days they never even worked.
 

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Print as many of these as you need. Treasury Secretary Mnuchin said it was "OK".
Just make sure to write "IOU" on the back...

 

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My son has been away at some sort of Army training for a couple weeks. Fortunately today is the last day.

The dining hall contractors did not show up today. Essentially they got a scoop of crappy rice for lunch. They're hoping to get permission to order Domino's pizza for delivery on base, as they are not allowed to leave.

Those who we rely on the most get the short end of this stick.
That's terrible. If we had real news outlets, they would be covering Schumer's rice rations for our military personnel. Sorry your son is being treated like crap. Hope Ochmude is making out OK.
 

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I shot a USPSA match today. I gave a friend of mine some sht, telling him that I knew he could afford something. I didn't know that the government had "shut down". He looked at me and said, yeah - I get to go to work today and not get paid. I was like "huh?". From my truly puzzled look he understood that I wasn't up on the news.

Yeah. He's not real concerned with the "BIG PICTURE". He's got bills to pay.
 
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I assume you are now helping protect our border with out a paycheck. For that I thank you. I know you will eventually be paid, but I'd hate to be going to work every day without the promise of a regular check. Of course, according to Article 1, Section 6, all congresscritters must be paid, and none of them are much worried about the kind of dangers you face.
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If it drags out past this week, is when it gets tough. We should get paid this week, but next pay period may be sketchy. Yes, we'll get paid eventually, but if your creditors don't play ball it hurts. If the time keepers don't show up, it pushes the actual pay date back by up to a week. Then you get taxed on it like one paycheck.
 

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I read that "essential" employees get back pay because they are working,and "non-essential" (read not working)employees do not get paid.

Is this true,or do the "non-essential" employees get paid vacation ?

I hope we the tax payers are not funding a paid vacation for people that aren't even essential lol
 

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It’s all up in the air, no one knows for sure yet.

In the past, congress has always voted to give government workers a free vacation, but who knows?

It’s hard to have sympathy for the non essential personnel who had MLK day off, and then a day off for three inches of snow.

I support it as long as the conservatives don’t back down. Build the wall and do something about illegals, including dreamers.

Shut it down and hope it restarts right, even if you need to leave it off for a while like a computer.

BTW, I’m a non essential fed employee. This hurts me financially, but I’ll recover if the country does.
 

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If any government employee is still working, it's because they are deemed essential personnel. All such employees will continue to get paid in a timely manner. All NON-ESSENTIAL personnel get the time off until the government is no longer "shut down" and then they will get back pay for the days they never even worked.
Bold added.

As both military and civil ("essential" LEO), I went through many budget crises. The only time that the shutdown lasted more than two weeks, no one got paid in a timely manner. That was three weeks, and since federal civil employees are paid every two weeks, it meant that one paycheck was delayed by one week.

It's unusual that this one is in January, when no one really has time off scheduled. Always before, it was right before Christmas, when people had scheduled annual leave almost a year in advance, and had bought travel tickets, only to be told that they were "essential" and couldn't go on leave. Some went anyway. Essential or not, all got paid in the end; the essential employees got charged for their leave, but the non-essential who just stayed home got paid and weren't charged leave.

The next military payday is February 1st, and I expect this to be resolved before then.

The reason the military payday is the 1st, is that in either 1987 or '88 (I forget which; I was on active duty in Germany, and there was much beer involved), the budget didn't have enough money to pay military personnel for the last check of the fiscal year. Checks then were on the 15th and last day of the month. The Pentagon solved that problem by slipping payday from 9/30 to 10/1, the first day of the next fiscal year.

Ever since then, military paydays are the 1st and 15th.
 
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If your son can order pizza at Dominos, I woul be honored to place the order and put it on my cc card.

We have to spread the news because the media won’t these Democtates are putting illegals in front of our kids, I hope the EBT cards don’t get replenished and the typical dem voter realizes the illegals are more valuable to the current and future democratic voter
 

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I assume you are now helping protect our border with out a paycheck. For that I thank you. I know you will eventually be paid, but I'd hate to be going to work every day without the promise of a regular check. Of course, according to Article 1, Section 6, all congresscritters must be paid, and none of them are much worried about the kind of dangers you face.
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Yep, they still get paid on time, are not subject to Obamacare, and the list goes on and on. No wonder the approval rating of Congress is so low.
 

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I hope we the tax payers are not funding a paid vacation for people that aren't even essential lol
makes no difference really, we'll fund it one way or another. using your vacation when you don't want to sucks also.
 

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I had drill scheduled this weekend for the USMC Reserves. We were set to muster at 0700 in New Haven, CT yesterday morning and guess what happenned...every Marine that was supposed to be there showed up. I was actually VERY impressed by that, because I'm not sure as a Pvt., PFC., or LCpl. I would have had the motivation to attend if I knew I wasn't getting paid.

The bottom line is we had work to do yesterday to prepare for a Btn. field op next drill at Ft. Dix...we had tents to set up and quadcons to load. We had a job to do and it got done. You want to see dedication to duty...how about 100+ guys driving from all over New England to go set up tents for free outside in the middle of January on a Saturday.

I know we all get ants in our pants around here about how everything is going to hell in a hand basket or so it seems...but if you want some motivation and hope to keep on keeping on, there it is!
 

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Am I the only one that chokes on the phrase " non-essential government employee"? WTF is that supposed to mean? If something or someone is truly "non-essential" why are we paying for in the first place?
Are there really people who think the folks feeding our service men and women are non essential? What friggin moron decided that it is not important to feed our military? Did someone forget to mention that every substantial group of service men may subcontract food service, but you know what they don't subcontract? The Armory.
 

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My son has been away at some sort of Army training for a couple weeks. Fortunately today is the last day.

The dining hall contractors did not show up today. Essentially they got a scoop of crappy rice for lunch. They're hoping to get permission to order Domino's pizza for delivery on base, as they are not allowed to leave.

Those who we rely on the most get the short end of this stick.
That does suck. It would be nice to see some upstanding local restaurants, or national chains donate pizza and soda to the bases.
Saying "We Support Our Troops" is not the same as actually Supporting Our Troops!

Thanks for your son's service and commitment to Our Country!

~Matt
 

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My son has been away at some sort of Army training for a couple weeks. Fortunately today is the last day.

The dining hall contractors did not show up today. Essentially they got a scoop of crappy rice for lunch. They're hoping to get permission to order Domino's pizza for delivery on base, as they are not allowed to leave.

Those who we rely on the most get the short end of this stick.
The part about those we rely on the most is intentional. The govt. wants us to pay for their ineptness and corruption. The politicians and their ilk should be the ones losing their pay.
 
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Am I the only one that chokes on the phrase " non-essential government employee"? WTF is that supposed to mean? If something or someone is truly "non-essential" why are we paying for in the first place?
Are there really people who think the folks feeding our service men and women are non essential? What friggin moron decided that it is not important to feed our military? Did someone forget to mention that every substantial group of service men may subcontract food service, but you know what they don't subcontract? The Armory.
While, to a certain extent, I agree with the sentiment. Some non-essential personnel are actually essential, but not needed any one day. Our 'secretaries', Mission Support Specialists, won't be in on Monday or until this is over. Those are the people who pay the bills, know the in's and out's of procurement, things like that. It leaves the 'doers' free from the massive amount of paperwork that comes with working for a huge paper wasting organization.
 

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My son has been away at some sort of Army training for a couple weeks. Fortunately today is the last day.

The dining hall contractors did not show up today. Essentially they got a scoop of crappy rice for lunch. They're hoping to get permission to order Domino's pizza for delivery on base, as they are not allowed to leave.

Those who we rely on the most get the short end of this stick.
God I hope he's able to survive on Dominos pizza, this is right up there with the what they guys at the Chosin had to deal with.




Inter-service ribbing, I kid, I kid [smile]
 
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If any government employee is still working, it's because they are deemed essential personnel. All such employees will continue to get paid in a timely manner. All NON-ESSENTIAL personnel get the time off until the government is no longer "shut down" and then they will get back pay for the days they never even worked.
except for the military. they still have to report for duty and will not be paid unless a spending bill is passed OR a separate bill is passed to pay them on Feb 1 (next scheduled military payday).
 

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Sounds pretty much essential to me.
Look at it from winter storm perspective. The guys and gals guarding the base and the snow removal guys are essential to be at work. If the secretaries don’t show it makes it easier to clear the parking lot.
Unfortunately, the security and snow removal crew never get an extra day to make up for being essential. Typical military punishment of dedication.
 

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If any government employee is still working, it's because they are deemed essential personnel. All such employees will continue to get paid in a timely manner.
Incorrect. I am an essential employee. I will not continue to get paid in a timely manner. I am not, however, complaining. I have a 6-month emergency fund saved up, and it's very likely that Congress will approve backpay once the shutdown is over, albeit technically not a guarantee.
 
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