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Tennessee law makers propose combination locks on pill bottles to fight opioid crisis

Discussion in 'Off-Topic' started by mikeyp, Feb 10, 2019.

  1. mikeyp

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    That is just a stooopid idea!?! I wonder what they cost apiece?
     
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    It may literally be the dumbest thing I've seen. Now if they made a completely metal cylinder that surrounded the pill bottle, maybe? But this?
     
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    Finally, a common sense drug law.
     
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    Some people already have safes for their scripts if there's concern for theft by family members.
     
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    How would that hold up to a pair of pliers? Or a knife/saw?
     
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    Another piece of evidence that the people we elect to represent us are, for the most part, dumber than a box full of doorknobs.

    It's been that way since the 70's, but some of the recent stories are really starting to scare me. Really.

    I hope nobody mentions to these "law makers" (I hate that f***ing word) that you could just smash the bottle. Because they won't say, "Hey, you're right, that was dumb. Our bad. Retracted." Instead, they will thank you for your suggestion, and propose titanium pill bottles and caps. Which the "government" will of course pay for, with the people's tax money. And that discussion will occupy another couple hundred people-hours of government time paid for by the nice people of Tennessee, when they could be talking about balancing the budget and fixing roads, or bridges, or something else boring like that. See how it all works?
     
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    Ban those too! (Why not? The UK already did.)
     
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    Waiting for Drug Control Laws........opiates shall be stored in original containers and such containers shall be stored in a locked cabinet, closet or box when not in use. :D
     
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    This is not dumb, it is a smart move. By doing this, no one can say he is not attempting to solve the problem. If people vote against it, now they dont care about solving the problem, but this guy "cares".

    Is the proposal stupid? - Yes. But that doesnt matter.

    The real idiots at the end of the day are the voters that keep putting these people in office.
     
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    Bender told FOX 13 the benefits outweigh the cost because: "That same person can grab that same bottle without that lock on it, take a few pills and that is all they need to get started with an addiction to opioids."

    This is the same bullshit that led to having you guys in Massachusetts having your guns always under lock and key in your own homes. Today I don't have any small children in my home. I have a loaded handgun on my bureau, along with my wallet and my keys, that I put there when I came in from running an errand. If my grandchildren were in the house, that handgun would be in a micro-vault, a gun locker, a safe, or on my person. But as a responsible gun owner - that's my responsibility.

    The medications are locked when the grand children are here for the same reason. They're too young to protect themselves from their own stupidity/ignorance. I don't need the government to tell me how to protect my family from itself. The government should concern itself with the business of governing.
     
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    Serious question: how much of the 'opioid crisis' is attributable to prescription drugs, and how much of it is re-branding heroin addiction? I get that the former could lead to the later, but there's been a great deal of information presented over recent years about how available and inexpensive heroin is. I have some empathy for those that inadvertently get led down an addictive path as the result of poor medical management and practices, but not so much for recreational users gone full retard.
     
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    I had clients whose drugs were locked up in several different types of locking containers.
    All were defeated.
    Don't underestimate an addict and their resourcefulness. Think prison inmates and the,shit they come up with.
    Those locks aren't the weakest link in that setup either. A hammer will easily crack that bottle.
     
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    Because nobody owns a saw..
     
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    There would then be a new law making having the pills in an unmarked container a felony. Because the first thing I'd do is put those pills into something I can get into when I'm in enough pain to need an opiate.
     
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    Stupid shit like this reinforces my will to resist laws completely.
     
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    The need explosives for wrong combination.
     
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    Surprised these aren’t for drugs that fight Alzheimer’s.
     
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    I think that law already exists.
     
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    I don't believe it is a felony if the pills are prescribed, but could cause one to be charged with a felony. Some DA would likely refuse to drop the charges even if you produced a notarized MD letter an Rx because they know it will be cheaper or you to plead out to some made up charge than to go to court to prove your innocence.

    If anyone has any confirmable info that possession of a legitimately prescribed drug not in the original container is a crime, please point me to a reference.
     
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    Someone please tell me that the article is a joke. Did AOC hatch this idea?
     
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    The world is getting very Oniony.

    Well, definitely my world.
     
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    I think we finally discarded the pill bottles with my mother's tooth marks
    from trying to gnaw her way in when she couldn't operate the child-proof caps.

    (We told Walmart to stop messing with her and use screw caps).

    That's a thing, you know.

    When my mother was in an ICU for (6 weeks?) in Fall 1996,
    we noticed during one visit that she was no longer wearing her engagement ring.

    Informed, the blood drained from the nurse's face;
    then she said, "wait a minute, I think I know where it is".
    Came back a minute later with it.

    Someone had noticed it was loose on her finger,
    and they locked it in the opioid safe. Unquote.
    Opioids merited special security even back in the day.

    Actually, the ICU had Fentanyl patches on her.
    First time I'd heard of the drug,
    and it was the better part of two decades
    before it was in the news.

    Illegal Possession Of Your Own Prescription Drugs
     
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    Most interesting - thanks.

    The pharmacist who manages my drugs insisted I repackage them into a weekly tray (4 cells per day) as a way to avoid unintentional missed or accidental doses. No scheduled drugs, but a lot of obscure ones. That actually works fairly nicely and saves a lot of time as I only go through my stash one a week. Then there is the metal container on my keychain with emergency doses of the really time-critical immunosuppressants.

    There are several other edge cases - like a family member picking up an Rx for a surgical patient who is recovering at home. And yes, I am certain at least one pharmacy in the DPRM allows this.
     
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    don't let it happen, its a slippery slope!
    What is next, combo locks on gun magazines?
    Combo locks on bottles of bourbon?
     
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    2010 Georgia Code
    TITLE 16 - CRIMES AND OFFENSES
    CHAPTER 13 - CONTROLLED SUBSTANCES
    ARTICLE 3 - DANGEROUS DRUGS
    § 16-13-75 - Drugs to be kept in original container

    O.C.G.A. 16-13-75 (2010)
    16-13-75. Drugs to be kept in original container


    Possession and control of controlled substances or dangerous drugs by anyone other than the individuals specified in Code Section 16-13-35 or 16-13-72 shall be legal only if such drugs are in the original container in which they were dispensed by the pharmacist or the practitioner of the healing arts and are labeled according to Code Section 26-3-8.




    According to the Attorney's site that I grabbed the original cite for this from, it's a misdemeanor, up to 12 months and $1000 fine. But definitely a "crime".
     
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    No matter how idiot proof something is made a long comes a better idiot. Anyone remember the SNL skit on the new drug Triopenem?
     
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    Yeah, I was reading that thinking this is just going to be a repeat of the child-proof caps, where the only people they prevent from getting access to the drugs are the people who actually need them. If someone wants to steal the drugs in one of these containers, all they have to do is break open the container.
     
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    De nada.
    And good job.

    I am so done with Seasoned Citizens (<= not you, Rob)
    who won't get with the program.

    Do we have to paste a different grandchild cameo in the lid of each cell?
    "Have I shown you this cute picture of my fifth granddaughter?
    Oh! It's time for my water pill".
     

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