Teen Wanted in Gay Bar Attack Caught in Arkansas

[FPrice]

http://cnn.netscape.cnn.com/news/st...ff/story/0001/20060204/2124300352.htm&sc=1110

GASSVILLE, Ark. (AP) - A teenager suspected of a hatchet-and-gun attack in a Massachusetts gay bar shot and killed a small-town police officer and the teen's female passenger before he was critically wounded in a gun battle with police Saturday, authorities said.

 

[JonJ]

Piece of shit...

 

[Admin]

lynch him

 

[JonJ]

Says he was "shot twice in the head". I'd be willing to go down there and probe them holes with my fingers.

 

[MikeYarosh]

Good news/bad news....

The next time he's back in Mass. it will be in a coffin.

AR will put a needle in his arm before he leaves the state. Killing a Statie will pretty much guarentee that he never faces the penalty in MA.

Dumb****. Of all the directions to run, south was not way. Eh, just as well. I'm anti-death penalty, but sometimes I think the gene pool needs a bit of chlorine.

Mike

 

[C-pher]

Glad that they got the bastard.

 

[gddyup]

Had someone been carrying in that bar, maybe things would have been different.

But this happened in Massachusetts, so I digress...

The gun this POS used will probably be blamed on NH, VT, or ME gun laws being so "lax". Funny, I don't remember the last time something like that happened up here......

 

[Jay G]

Had someone been carrying in that bar, maybe things would have been different.

But this happened in Massachusetts, so I digress...

The gun this POS used will probably be blamed on NH, VT, or ME gun laws being so "lax". Funny, I don't remember the last time something like that happened up here......

Y'know, I've heard that in a couple of places. But if I'm not mistaken, there's no prohibition against carrying in a bar in MA, is there?

Judges? Can we get a ruling?

 

[tele_mark]

Shame he didn't have the sack to use the gun on himself.....

The irony is, that he'll spend the rest of his life in prison, as a "participant" in those activities that "caused" him to do this in the first place.....

 

[MarkM]

Shot in the head twice..... and I bet at least one of those was at close range. I hope the scumbag doesn't make it out of surgery, at least that will save a lot of taxpayers the expense of a trial and prison.

 

[Emoto]

...But if I'm not mistaken, there's no prohibition against carrying in a bar in MA, is there?

Judges? Can we get a ruling?

I believe you are correct. The restriction is that one cannot be carrying while under the influence of alcohol. I have no idea what standard - IF ANY - is in place on that one.

 

[Optimistic Paranoid]

Dumb****. Of all the directions to run, south was not way. Eh, just as well. I'm anti-death penalty, but sometimes I think the gene pool needs a bit of chlorine.

Mike

Speculation on my part, but I would not be surprised if it came out that he was skinhead/neo-nazi/Aryan-Nation or a wannabe.

The shooting may have been his way of "making his bones", as the mob like to call it.

They have communities in that general area and he may have been trying to reach one for sanctuary.

Of course, I could be completely wrong . . .

Regards
John

 

[dwarven1]

Good news/bad news....

The next time he's back in Mass. it will be in a coffin.

And this is a problem because?

This is one time I don't have a problem with the death penalty: shot in the act. No possible question about guilt there!

And John, according to the articles he was a wannabe neo-Nazi. Which makes another reason to exterminate the little bastard.

Ross

 

[K-DUB]

...But if I'm not mistaken, there's no prohibition against carrying in a bar in MA, is there?

Judges? Can we get a ruling?

I believe you are correct. The restriction is that one cannot be carrying while under the influence of alcohol. I have no idea what standard - IF ANY - is in place on that one.

I believe you can't be in posession of a firearm in an establishment who's primary revenue source is alchohol, AFAIK.

 

[gddyup]

He died. CNN just came on the website with a breaking news update. He died overnight or this morning due to the gunshots to the head.

Good for him. Now we don't have to worry about trying his disgusting ass in court.

 

[Len-2A Training]

...But if I'm not mistaken, there's no prohibition against carrying in a bar in MA, is there?

Judges? Can we get a ruling?

I believe you are correct. The restriction is that one cannot be carrying while under the influence of alcohol. I have no idea what standard - IF ANY - is in place on that one.

I believe you can't be in posession of a firearm in an establishment who's primary revenue source is alchohol, AFAIK.

K-DUB,

Untrue. MA law is "silent" on where you can carry, except for schools. MGL also makes it an additional crime to be carrying while intoxicated! Thus, you can drink (or not) but just stay sober and you are OK. Most folks that I know who carry do so in restaurants and bars as well . . . they just don't get drunk.


AZ and many other states do have a prohibition on carrying anyplace that sells alcohol, if the establishment earns >50% of revenue from alcohol, or in bars. MA is NOT one of those states.

 

[Emoto]

...But if I'm not mistaken, there's no prohibition against carrying in a bar in MA, is there?

Judges? Can we get a ruling?

I believe you are correct. The restriction is that one cannot be carrying while under the influence of alcohol. I have no idea what standard - IF ANY - is in place on that one.

I believe you can't be in posession of a firearm in an establishment who's primary revenue source is alchohol, AFAIK.

Let me check with a buddy who teaches MA firearms law to cops. I believe that you are incorrect, but I wouldn't bet my life on it...

 

[Len-2A Training]

He died. CNN just came on the website with a breaking news update. He died overnight or this morning due to the gunshots to the head.

Good for him. Now we don't have to worry about trying his disgusting ass in court.

GREAT NEWS!!

I hope it was a painful death.

Couldn't happen to a nicer guy! [roll]

 

[Len-2A Training]

Had someone been carrying in that bar, maybe things would have been different.

But this happened in Massachusetts, so I digress...

The gun this POS used will probably be blamed on NH, VT, or ME gun laws being so "lax". Funny, I don't remember the last time something like that happened up here......

Y'know, I've heard that in a couple of places. But if I'm not mistaken, there's no prohibition against carrying in a bar in MA, is there?

Judges? Can we get a ruling?

Jay, you are correct.

Info as noted in my reply to K-DUB.

 

[MikeYarosh]

Couple items:

I understand the scum bucket might have wanted to earn his stripes. However, you can find racist groups in NH, ME and MI just as easily as down south. And those states don't like to kill people. Ya go down south and get in a shoot out you've got a chance of getting a date with the needle.
MI was be perfect state for the SOB. Sympathetic groups and no death penalty.

As far as carrying in a bar; Here is the only law;

CHAPTER 269. CRIMES AGAINST PUBLIC PEACE

Chapter 269: Section 10H. Carrying loaded firearm while under influence of liquor, marijuana, narcotic drugs, depressants or stimulant substances; punishment

Section 10H. Whoever, having in effect a license to carry firearms issued under section 131 or 131F of chapter 140, carries on his person, or has under his control in a vehicle, a loaded firearm, as defined in section 121 of said chapter 140, while under the influence of intoxicating liquor or marijuana, narcotic drugs, depressants or stimulant substances, all as defined in section 1 of chapter 94C, or the vapors of glue shall be punished by a fine of not more than $5,000 or by imprisonment in the house of correction for not more than two and one-half years, or by both such fine and imprisonment.

Ron Glidden has stated that the same standard as driving would be held. So right now that would be .08bac

Mike

 

[Bruce for NH State Rep]

Well, that's the first Massachusetts tax cut we've seen in a while.

http://massbackwards.blogspot.com/2006/02/breaking-news.html

http://massbackwards.blogspot.com/2006/02/consider-this-tax-cut.html

 

[Optimistic Paranoid]

I understand the scum bucket might have wanted to earn his stripes. However, you can find racist groups in NH, ME and MI just as easily as down south. And those states don't like to kill people. Ya go down south and get in a shoot out you've got a chance of getting a date with the needle.
MI was be perfect state for the SOB. Sympathetic groups and no death penalty.

Mike

Excuse me, Mike, but you're trying to figure out why a guy who could arguably be described as "crazy as a shithouse mouse" didn't make a RATIONAL choice of destinations to flee to?

Regards
John

 

[SiameseRat]

I suppose in the end he got what he deserved. Chances are he had a specific group that he was trying to get to. There are factions everywhere, and just because we have them here doesn't mean, especially in this internet conscious time, that he was affiliated with a local group.
Thankfully his actions are really the exception. Most of these groups just spend a lot of time posturing, plotting things they will never do and drinking really crappy beer and "wrestling" each other (yes, probably latent homosexual tendencies which explains their behavior to some extent). And yes I speak from personal experience. I've known a lot of "neo-nazi" skinheads. As a rule, they're boneheads, but harmless boneheads.
And lest anyone confuse my post, I am in no way condoning or defending his sentiments or theirs.

 

[Emoto]

I suppose in the end he got what he deserved. Chances are he had a specific group that he was trying to get to. There are factions everywhere, and just because we have them here doesn't mean, especially in this internet conscious time, that he was affiliated with a local group.
Thankfully his actions are really the exception. Most of these groups just spend a lot of time posturing, plotting things they will never do and drinking really crappy beer and "wrestling" each other (yes, probably latent homosexual tendencies which explains their behavior to some extent). And yes I speak from personal experience. I've known a lot of "neo-nazi" skinheads. As a rule, they're boneheads, but harmless boneheads.
And lest anyone confuse my post, I am in no way condoning or defending his sentiments or theirs.

These asshats "wrestle" each other?

Ewww.

 

[hminsky]

Police in Massachusetts are also trying to determine where Robida got his handgun, a Ruger firearm. In Massachusetts, handgun owners must be at least 21 years old.

Police are also trying to determine where Robida got a hatchet. In Massachusetts, it is against the law to hit people with hatchets unless you have an axe-murdering permit.

 

[SKS Ray]

This happened where I live in New Bedford. I remember the helicopters flying around that night. Its getting to be like LA here with I believe 9 homicides by firearms last year alone, and go figure its one of the toughest cities in Mass to get an All Lawful license. :?
As for this kid.... he has a page on myspace.com. My wife and her co-workers who work in mental health read his page and all agreed he was suicidal and totally screwed up. He was deemed a neo nazi by the media because he had a picture of himself standing on front of a nazi flag and had a few homemade tattoos symbolizing nazi beliefs, probably just to look like a bad ass in front of his friends. Odd thing is the band he listened to and idolized (Insane Clown Posse) are basically rappers. Kinda shoots the whole "i'm a nazi" thing down and labels him as just a dumb shit trying to prove himself and look tough.
I was hoping for a little more accuracy from Arkansas' finest but firing at him with shotguns and 45s they didn't even hit him once. His death was result of a self inflicted shot to the head from the 9mm he had.

 

[Len-2A Training]

Milsurps,

It doesn't matter who's bullet killed him . . . all that matters is that the "job was done"! [roll] [twisted]

 

[dreppucci007]

Milsurps,

It doesn't matter who's bullet killed him . . . all that matters is that the "job was done"! [roll] [twisted]

Amen to that!

 

[Admin]

Milsurps 4 Me,

In the LEO's defense they were attempting to shoot through the car. As you probably know .45 rounds will go through the door but usually end up bouncing off the next thing they hit and buck shot probably would do the same thing. A slug at close range will, but the loser had good cover.

I watched a show on ballistics penetration in a vehicle and the slug at close range was the only effective round.

 

[SKS Ray]

True. I think they opened fire after he shot his passenger. Even then after turning the gun on himself he was probably slumped over and out of sight. I agree though, at least hes gone and theres no money wasted on his dumb ass with the courts and our tax dollars won't be feeding him.