I've heard some questionable things about the 8mm Turkish Mauser relating to hot loads and bad primers, but I'm no expert as I think some years were better than others. It's also Berdan primed so its one and doneThere's a guy in the classified here selling Turkish 8mm Mauser. It's been for sale for a while and the price keeps going down. I think it's at $250 for 800 rounds.