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Take your kid to the range = get suspended from school

PaulR

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He Went Shooting With His Mom. Now He Can't Return To School.

Credit: Bearing Arms

A Colorado teen has been told he cannot return to school until authorities hold a “threat assessment hearing” after he went target shooting with his mother. Nate Evans, a junior at Loveland High School in Loveland, Colorado actually got a visit from police after he posted video of his plinking with his mom Justine according to the Colorado 2nd Amendment group Rally For Our Rights.

A report had come in to the police department about the video and they were told Nate was a threat. After showing the videos to the police officers and explaining that they’d simply gone on a mother-son outing to train with their legally owned firearms, the police stated that they had done nothing illegal and were well within their rights. They also determined Nate was not a threat to himself or anyone else, and went on their way.

But it wasn’t over.

Unfortunately, even after police determined that there was nothing nefarious about a mom taking her son out for some firearms training, the school district wasn’t convinced.

Justine immediately contacted the school assuming she could easily clear things up, especially since the police had already assessed the situation and realized no one had done anything wrong or made any threats. She was wrong. The school not only refused to provide her with more information about the “threat”, but they refused to provide Nate with schoolwork so he doesn’t get behind. A “threat assessment hearing” has been scheduled for Thursday morning at 10am at the school admin building where Justine will be allowed to defend her son against SEVEN school officials who will be in attendance to, as she was told, “make their case”. Make their case of what? That Nate’s outing with his mother to train with her firearms somehow makes him a danger to the school?

This is insane, but it’s also a pretty clear abuse of the program “Safe 2 Tell”, which is designed to allow students to report potential threats to school safety. As Lesley Hollywood with Rally for Our Rights points out, the way the program currently works almost invites abuse.

I spoke with Justine, as well as two different attorneys who specialize in Second Amendment issues. The bottom line is the school is legally within their rights at this time. According to the attorneys, the school has a protocol that must be followed when a report of a threat comes in through Safe 2 Tell or other means, even if the report is completely false – and there is nothing parents or students can legally do about it, even with a lawyer. If the student is charged or further action is taken, that changes. This is why students have dubbed Safe 2 Tell as “Safe 2 Swat”, referencing the act of “swatting“, a criminal harassment tactic of deceiving an emergency service into sending a police and emergency service response team to another person’s address.

Hopefully after today’s hearing Nate will be allowed back in school, he and his mom will receive an apology from the school district, and nothing like this will ever happen again. I’m guessing only one of those three things is really likely to happen, however. There will likely be no apology, and I’m almost certain that situations like this will come up again. Officials in Colorado need to take a serious look at the Safe 2 Tell protocols and make some significant changes to ensure that kids like Nate and parents like Justine don’t have to deal with bureaucratic baloney like this in the future.
 
Stop putting crap online.

Yes, but no. There is no scenario where this kid or his mother bears any responsibility for this overreaction. Is it wise not to broadcast yourself on social media? To be sure, but I'm betting we can all agree that the schools need to get their $hit together and stop the pearl-clutching over OMG GUNZ! This kid and his mother were 1000% within their rights to both do and post what they did publicly.
 
Yep jct - if you’re doing anything border-line or completely legal (as in this scenario), don’t post it online, especially when there’s so much sensitivity and attention on the topic.

I’m not a social media person to begin with, but if I was, I wouldn’t be posting pictures or videos of me reloading, shooting at a range, or hunting. Too many snowflakes would get butthurt because my hobbies are outside their proverbial box.
 
Stop putting crap online.

I agree in a practical sense, but nobody should be persecuted for a lawful activity. Next thing you know same thing is going to happen if some kid mentions it in passing etc, if it hasn't happened already. Opsec is important but gun owners shouldn't have to hide this much. Antis want to kill gun culture and tolerance for this kind of abuse only allows them to progress in that regard....
 
I took a buddy to the range recently with his two teenage grandsons.

Rules were provided:

- Follow all safety rules at all times or we stop and leave. No discussion.
- Do not take any pictures/videos of guns or activities
- Do not tell your friends. If word got around in school it could be construed as a threat.
- Yes, the rules suck but the world sucks worse these days.

They shot a variety of fun firearms. They were safe. They were actually appreciative that we entrusted them to act like adults.
 
If I was that parent I'd file a federal civil rights lawsuit. Then I'd also start trolling every FB/Instagram post of every person involved and report anything and everything into the same system I found as offensive. Bury them in their own shit while suing them.

AND THEN SOME!
 
People wonder why mostly sensible rules and regulations are abhorred by lots of people. It's because you have too many morons and too many bad people that will abuse these tools. This is clearly an abuse of the system, but they are so desperate to make it look like it's functional that they're going full bore on this poor family.
 
Stop putting crap online.

As much as a cowardice bootlicker as I am, and I can understand this may be the prudent thing to do, I have to agree with others that say this is total BS.
If we continue to give in like this, we will continue to lose the war, lose the hearts and minds.
I would LOVE to post pics of my daughter with an AR-15 all over instagram and Facebook, but really don't want to suffer the consequences.
I understand in the current climate it not the politically correct thing to do.
Unfortunately, we have to give in to peoples irrational fears of guns, and what might happen.
These are all legitimate pre-crimes now.
 
As much as a cowardice bootlicker as I am, and I can understand this may be the prudent thing to do, I have to agree with others that say this is total BS.
If we continue to give in like this, we will continue to lose the war, lose the hearts and minds.
I would LOVE to post pics of my daughter with an AR-15 all over instagram and Facebook, but really don't want to suffer the consequences.
I understand in the current climate it not the politically correct thing to do.
Unfortunately, we have to give in to peoples irrational fears of guns, and what might happen.
These are all legitimate pre-crimes now.

I'll take "Confused" for 800 Alex.
 
TIP: Always make sure your child/student is dressed "appropriately" for the range...

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^ This is a 14-year old girl.

Remember: If they can't ID you...they can't suspend you...
 
If I was that parent I'd file a federal civil rights lawsuit. Then I'd also start trolling every FB/Instagram post of every person involved and report anything and everything into the same system I found as offensive. Bury them in their own shit while suing them.

ERPO every person in the administration. Call Safe-2-tell and say they threatened to kill you and you felt unsafe. When they don't suspend them and force a hearing on each one, file a discrimination lawsuit. Profit.

Cloward and Piven their shitbag system
 
I agree in a practical sense, but nobody should be persecuted for a lawful activity. Next thing you know same thing is going to happen if some kid mentions it in passing etc, if it hasn't happened already. Opsec is important but gun owners shouldn't have to hide this much. Antis want to kill gun culture and tolerance for this kind of abuse only allows them to progress in that regard....
I agree, the kid is getting a raw deal.
 
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