Supreme Court - NYSRPA v. Bruen - Megathread

[Springfield_trapdoor]

Ok who's gonna be first to get one?

New York Non-Resident Permit - American Firearms Training

American Firearms Training Concealed Carry Course: New York Non-Resident Permit

www.concealedcarryonline.com

 

[Picton]

This is clearly a psychological operation that they have initiated here. Abortion is the sacrificial lamb. Globalists have control over the Supreme Court. That's why the SC would not even hear the election rigging argument proposed by Ted Cruz(?) I believe during January 6th. The SC wouldn't hear this because they knew it would uncover a massive illegal operation that would single handedly expose the Deep State and the elites. Everyone would have been brought to court and arrested, all the way up to Hillary Clinton. No, they have complete control over the Supreme Court. That would never be allowed to come to pass.

Let's see this for what it really is. The globalists are using abortion as their sacrificial lamb to install another "George Floyd" summer of left-wing "justified" violence. This will instill hatred towards the Supreme Court and the Republican Party. Hatred towards the Supreme Court will be used to pass anti-2A bills. Hatred towards the Republican Party will be used to rally troops for the midterms.

Hell, they might even get in a Supreme Court packing deal as an extra bonus with this little scheme. They stand to gain a lot. Then, in a year or two, they'll just overturn this ruling and reinstall abortion rights.

It's very obvious what is going on here. Don't think for a second that the Supreme Court is upholding good old Christian values. In fact, just the opposite.

This is clearly a psychological operation that they have initiated here. Abortion is the sacrificial lamb. Globalists have control over the Supreme Court. That's why the SC would not even hear the election rigging argument proposed by Ted Cruz(?) I believe during January 6th. The SC wouldn't hear this because they knew it would uncover a massive illegal operation that would single handedly expose the Deep State and the elites. Everyone would have been brought to court and arrested, all the way up to Hillary Clinton. No, they have complete control over the Supreme Court. That would never be allowed to come to pass.

Let's see this for what it really is. The globalists are using abortion as their sacrificial lamb to install another "George Floyd" summer of left-wing "justified" violence. This will instill hatred towards the Supreme Court and the Republican Party. Hatred towards the Supreme Court will be used to pass anti-2A bills. Hatred towards the Republican Party will be used to rally troops for the midterms.

Hell, they might even get in a Supreme Court packing deal as an extra bonus with this little scheme. They stand to gain a lot. Then, in a year or two, they'll just overturn this ruling and reinstall abortion rights.

It's very obvious what is going on here. Don't think for a second that the Supreme Court is upholding good old Christian values. In fact, just the opposite.

Um. Wrong megathread. x2.

 

[Davidk]

Any thoughts on how this would effect the issue of non resident permits?

 

[Rob Boudrie]

Ok who's gonna be first to get one?

New York Non-Resident Permit - American Firearms Training

American Firearms Training Concealed Carry Course: New York Non-Resident Permit

www.concealedcarryonline.com

I'd like to see more details about this claim regarding "non-resident permits" for NY. Other than the assertion, that site offers no specifics as to where to apply, the process, etc. for non residents.

My NY non-resident expired in 99 and was non-renewal because the Chautauqua county law department concluded that Judge Willard Cass did not have the authority to issue permits to non-NY residents. The county had a nice mail order permit business going, with no need for ultra views fees or extra hoops.

 

[xtry51]

Any thoughts on how this would effect the issue of non resident permits?

It would seem to require issuance of license to non-res. Part of me wants to apply for a NYC license even though I'd never go there just because I want to see the response.

 

[Davidk]

Perhaps, but they could still put lots of stupid requirements to apply. I want a NY, IL,NJ and MA permit just as a FU. They could require multiple in-person visits as an example. ie: application, interview and pick-up

 

[Bladerunner]

I hope these idiots are met by an army of armed Patriots:


View: https://twitter.com/OurRightsDC/status/1540375717963337731?t=3pi1dzE0uiVldOqia-wIOg&s=19

 

[Coyote33]

Based on the commentary, I'm not sure it's clear they wouldn't find against licensing altogether. I agree that fees and delays are the next obvious place to attack.

Still wondering about FID card.

Another gem from the State of New York trying to defend their law - they cite a law from the 1200's as basis for history of limiting carrying of arms:

"It provided that, with some exceptions, Englishmen could not “come before the King’s Justices, or other of the King’s Min- isters doing their office, with force and arms, nor bring no force in affray of the peace, nor to go nor ride armed by night nor by day, in Fairs, Markets, nor in the presence of the Justices or other Ministers, nor in no part elsewhere, upon pain to forfeit their Armour to the King, and their Bodies to Prison at the King’s pleasure.” 2 Edw. 3 c. 3 (1328)

I'd say this was one of the reasons for the 2nd Amendment in the first place, to throw off these old laws!

 

[Mesatchornug]

Still wondering about FID card.

I'm sure we all are. I expect it'll depend on whatever cases test it.

 

[whatluck]

Still wondering about FID card.


I'd say this was one of the reasons for the 2nd Amendment in the first place, to throw off these old laws!

"Hey you yutz! Guns aren't toys. They're for personal protection, hunting dangerous and delicious animals, and keeping the King of England out of your face."

 

[Rye]

The mob intimidation antics very well may have pushed Kavanaugh and Roberts to stop being squishes. I think they may have figured out that appearing to be influenced by the press and mobs was inviting harassment where if they put their foot down it is more likely the harassment stops.

Well we know where Kavanuagh stood given a guy was arrested at his DOORSTEP trying to take him out.

 

[Broc]

Another gem from the State of New York trying to defend their law - they cite a law from the 1200's as basis for history of limiting carrying of arms:

"It provided that, with some exceptions, Englishmen could not “come before the King’s Justices, or other of the King’s Min- isters doing their office, with force and arms, nor bring no force in affray of the peace, nor to go nor ride armed by night nor by day, in Fairs, Markets, nor in the presence of the Justices or other Ministers, nor in no part elsewhere, upon pain to forfeit their Armour to the King, and their Bodies to Prison at the King’s pleasure.” 2 Edw. 3 c. 3 (1328).

Respondents argue that the prohibition on “rid[ing]” or “go[ing] . . . armed” was a sweeping restriction on public carry of self-defense weapons that would ultimately be adopted in Colonial America and justify onerous public- carry regulations. Notwithstanding the ink the parties spill over this provision, the Statute of Northampton—at least as it was understood during the Middle Ages—has little bearing on the Second Amendment adopted in 1791. The Statute of Northampton was enacted nearly 20 years before the Black Death, more than 200 years before the birth of Shakespeare, more than 350 years before the Salem Witch Trials, more than 450 years before the ratification of the Constitution, and nearly 550 years before the adoption of the Fourteenth Amendment."

Ha!

Just when I think people can't get any more stupid, a New Yorker surprises me.

 

[free]

This is clearly a psychological operation that they have initiated here. Abortion is the sacrificial lamb. Globalists have control over the Supreme Court. That's why the SC would not even hear the election rigging argument proposed by Ted Cruz(?) I believe during January 6th. The SC wouldn't hear this because they knew it would uncover a massive illegal operation that would single handedly expose the Deep State and the elites. Everyone would have been brought to court and arrested, all the way up to Hillary Clinton. No, they have complete control over the Supreme Court. That would never be allowed to come to pass.

Let's see this for what it really is. The globalists are using abortion as their sacrificial lamb to install another "George Floyd" summer of left-wing "justified" violence. This will instill hatred towards the Supreme Court and the Republican Party. Hatred towards the Supreme Court will be used to pass anti-2A bills. Hatred towards the Republican Party will be used to rally troops for the midterms.

Hell, they might even get in a Supreme Court packing deal as an extra bonus with this little scheme. They stand to gain a lot. Then, in a year or two, they'll just overturn this ruling and reinstall abortion rights.

It's very obvious what is going on here. Don't think for a second that the Supreme Court is upholding good old Christian values. In fact, just the opposite.

There was no election rigging.

The candidate who was unsuccessful lost because he is, well, a loser.

 

[Admin]

 

[VetteGirlMA]

This is clearly a psychological operation that they have initiated here. Abortion is the sacrificial lamb. Globalists have control over the Supreme Court. That's why the SC would not even hear the election rigging argument proposed by Ted Cruz(?) I believe during January 6th. The SC wouldn't hear this because they knew it would uncover a massive illegal operation that would single handedly expose the Deep State and the elites. Everyone would have been brought to court and arrested, all the way up to Hillary Clinton. No, they have complete control over the Supreme Court. That would never be allowed to come to pass.

Let's see this for what it really is. The globalists are using abortion as their sacrificial lamb to install another "George Floyd" summer of left-wing "justified" violence. This will instill hatred towards the Supreme Court and the Republican Party. Hatred towards the Supreme Court will be used to pass anti-2A bills. Hatred towards the Republican Party will be used to rally troops for the midterms.

Hell, they might even get in a Supreme Court packing deal as an extra bonus with this little scheme. They stand to gain a lot. Then, in a year or two, they'll just overturn this ruling and reinstall abortion rights.

It's very obvious what is going on here. Don't think for a second that the Supreme Court is upholding good old Christian values. In fact, just the opposite.

I don't think you want to have SCOTUS becoming an investigative body. I don't think we will ever know what happened in 2020 when it comes to elections because of COVID. We have to accept that and move on. Now in 2022 and 2024 we need to keep the left on a short leash and monitor their activities. You can't cheat when you're being watched 24/7. That's what we need to do.

 

[JuergenG]

What the conservatives on the Supreme Court are saying is we want the Second Amendment to be a first class right like the First Amendment," Toobin griped.

Oh, didn't know there were different classes of enumerated rights

 

[Waher]

Um.. didn't she used to be a giant gun grabber in Hawaii?

 

[Dadstoys]

Justice Thomas: “Come at me bro”

That worries me a little , those unhinged fruitcakes might just.

 

[Admin]

Um.. didn't she used to be a giant gun grabber in Hawaii?

She is/was for a assault weapons ban and "sensible" gun control.

 

[SFC13557]

Oh, didn't know there were different classes of enumerated rights

Was Jeffrey "Toobin" when he said, wrote that? Keep your hands in plain sight Sir.

 

[Dadstoys]

Um.. didn't she used to be a giant gun grabber in Hawaii?

OTHER peoples guns .
It's only important when it's her ass on the line.
You and me can go piss up a rope.

 

[SFC13557]

She is/was for a assault weapons ban and "sensible" gun control.

and she's a Soldier!

 

[Coyote33]

That's all fine and dandy but the citizens of the US outgun the rest of the worlds armies combined. Good luck with that.

Except it's not that kind of war!

That needs an armed revolution and if it fails they will be hanging from trees.

Doubtful. They are winning in other ways, and if nobody starts stopping them, it will be too late.

Elitist, effeminate college professors who've never worked a day in their lives, like Barry and Dementia Joe, and brainwash students into hating us because we hurt their feelings

Is the 60-year American Marxist “slow march through the institutions” coming to an end?

It's just getting started.

Respectfully, we have a thread for that conversation.

https://www.northeastshooters.com/xen/threads/roe-v-wade-on-the-chopping-block-someone-leaked-%F0%9F%99%8A-update-roe-v-wade-overturned-by-scotus.432189/

Can we please keep this one to the NYSRPA discussion?
Thanks

 

[VetteGirlMA]

Except it's not that kind of war!

You aren't going to have much of a revolution 150 characters at a time on Twitter. At some point it requires someone to engage in violence. That's the only thing I worry about is the left going bonkers and violent.

 

[Coyote33]

Actually now that I think about it, wouldn't the first thing that happens is that FIDs go away since a permit is now a License To Carry arms period?

Would be nice.

If we recognize there's a license requirement for long guns, and that under 21s can legally purchase such, it seems there's a legitimate argument for their continuation...

Just asked about FID above for the second time. Wondering if anything changes with that. I'm guessing no, since this case was about handguns and does not mention age.

Like the implied consent law when obtaining a license. By accepting a license you give consent to a field sobriety test and breath chemical test if requested by law enforcement. If the consent is refused the license is suspended. You agree to those terms legally. Your choice is to not apply for accept and obtain a license.

Now I'm curious. What law is this?

That’s a few years old, I’m not sure if they’ve been updating it since

Then why would someone post it if it is not correct?

 

[Waher]

Just asked about FID above for the second time. Wondering if anything changes with that. I'm guessing no, since this case was about handguns and does not mention age.

My guess is FIDs become for persons under 21 only for long guns in MA and 21+ becomes LTCs for pistols + long guns.

 

[sig shooter]

There was no election rigging.

The candidate who was unsuccessful lost because he is, well, a loser.

I do think some suspicious shit happened in that election. It’s here nor there now.

 

[Tartakovsky]

She is/was for a assault weapons ban and "sensible" gun control.

Funny how she was a republican and then a democrat, and now that the democrats abandoned her in 2020 is now coming back to the republicans. Lots of things I like about Tulsi but a lot I don’t like too (she’s for open borders and is a socialist).

 

[chidiver]

She is/was for a assault weapons ban and "sensible" gun control.

I think she has been slowly trying to take a much more centrist position on a lot of things. At some point there will possibly be a huge fracture in the Democrat party, as their big shift leftward is going to crush/split them and create a power vacuum. She’s young, smart and articulate. She’s playing a long game, politically.

As the implications of Bruen work their way through the courts, centrist democrats could regain many center-left voters who have fled the party for now, particularly if guns are no longer a viable political issue for them to “do something” about (thanks Justice Thomas). Essentially, this might eventually take guns off the table as an actionable issue.

In some ways, the abortion ruling may have the opposite effect. Republicans used to be able to have the best of both worlds. They used to be able to say they are pro-life, but throw up their hands and say “there’s nothing I can do because of Roe”. Now those single issue voters will expect action rather than just words. And politicians hate that!

 

[hminsky]

So I wonder how the supreme court decision will affect the 'may issue, but really will never issue unless you've got friends on the force' towns in MA like Brookline?