Supreme Court - NYSRPA v. Bruen - Megathread

[Roadglide]

Go to AAA.

I renewed my license online in 2 minutes.

Also, the RMV is the lowest of lowest as far as combined IQ.

CDL. No AAA for you. See what I mean. And I agree the Rmv IQ is low but don’t think that is unique to them.

 

[Coyote33]

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[Broccoli Iglesias]

CDL. No AAA for you. See what I mean. And I agree the Rmv IQ is low but don’t think that is unique to them.

Ok. Lets not compare the RMV and their 700 different BS processes with a single process to get an LTC.

 

[Hoover]

Ruling or not, you will never see a shall-issue law in Massachusetts. And if it ever does happen, Massachusetts will be the very last state to do it.

It just became shall issue, that was decided today.

Also, as bad as Massachusetts is on carry licenses, NY, NJ, the populated counties of CA, all Hawaii, etc are MUCH worse.

NJ has about 40k conceal carry licenses and those are all politically connected people, former cops, etc. Massachusetts has 500k and it’s a smaller state. Hawaii hasn’t issued a single one in over a decade. Etc.

 

[Taipan01]

Without reading the decision, besides shall issue being on the table, does this effect Herr Healy's personal opinions on what the AWB means and or mag limits in the state?

 

[Dench]

does this effect Herr Healy's personal opinions on what the AWB means and or mag limits in the state?

no

 

[Taipan01]

no

Figures.

 

[pdm]

Hoes mad.

 

[Bladerunner]

Hoes mad.

His commie tears are particularly salty.

 

[Roadglide]

Ok. Lets not compare the RMV and their 700 different BS processes with a single process to get an LTC.

Ok I’ll end it with this. This is not unique to the Rmv. Let’s talk about the DPS or FMCSA. Their online systems are just as f***ed. My point is you putting trust into them getting it right is surprising to say the least.

 

[mousegunfan]

Without reading the decision, besides shall issue being on the table, does this effect Herr Healy's personal opinions on what the AWB means and or mag limits in the state?

Maybe mag limits. But it only refers to handguns and self defense.

 

[pdm]

His commie tears are particularly salty.

The salt must flow.

 

[Mesatchornug]

Without reading the decision, besides shall issue being on the table, does this effect Herr Healy's personal opinions on what the AWB means and or mag limits in the state?

It couldn't. It wouldn't.

The question in this case was whether the NYC licensing scheme was constitutional.

Maybe mag limits. But it only refers to handguns and self defense.

Not until a future decision is made. Some of which are in the wings.

This case was only about a may-issue scheme for a license to carry a firearm outside the home (and whether it's appropriate to apply means-end tests in making these decisions). Any other questions are covered in other cases.

 

[GaryO]

Does anyone really think that NY will follow the Supreme Court ? The governor and mayor D-bag said that they don't agree with it and will follow the lead of the WH when it comes to stay in Mexico. Sure it was ruled on but it's a toothless tiger at this point.

 

[Bladerunner]

The salt must flow.

2022 has the makings of a classic vintage. I give it a 100 score.

 

[G4Y4HK]

By this time next year, watch as our supreme court will now be 19 members and growing.

 

[gunskill]

"Blue check meltdowns"

View: https://twitter.com/AuronMacintyre/status/1539992645635915776

 

[Sparky123]

It just became shall issue, that was decided today.

Also, as bad as Massachusetts is on carry licenses, NY, NJ, the populated counties of CA, all Hawaii, etc are MUCH worse.

NJ has about 40k conceal carry licenses and those are all politically connected people, former cops, etc. Massachusetts has 500k and it’s a smaller state. Hawaii hasn’t issued a single one in over a decade. Etc.

If there is any way around this, Massachusetts will find it.

 

[Hoover]

Without reading the decision, besides shall issue being on the table, does this effect Herr Healy's personal opinions on what the AWB means and or mag limits in the state?

Not directly right now. All the decisions from the past 12 years will be relitigated based on this ruling.

 

[Sparky123]

Nope, they have no way to circumvent this ruling.

Where there is a will, there is a way, and Massachusetts will find it.

 

[G4Y4HK]

Does this mean NYC people can finally get shall issue pistol permits? don't need to lick the sphincter of their local politicians and police captains

 

[Mesatchornug]

"Blue check meltdowns"

View: https://twitter.com/AuronMacintyre/status/1539992645635915776

He just thinks he's Jackson:

“Marshall made his decision, now let him enforce it.”

 

[Mesatchornug]

Does this mean NYC people can finally get shall issue pistol permits? don't need to lick the sphincter of their local politicians and police captains

Not likely.

It means they have a path to sue the city for refusing to grant them...

 

[Hoover]

By this time next year, watch as our supreme court will now be 19 members and growing.

How? With a dem minority in the senate? After November the only govt control for dems will be biden and he’ll be powerless

 

[Broccoli Iglesias]

Does anyone really think that NY will follow the Supreme Court ? The governor and mayor D-bag said that they don't agree with it and will follow the lead of the WH when it comes to stay in Mexico. Sure it was ruled on but it's a toothless tiger at this point.

LOL ... it doesn't matter what the Gov or Mayor agree with, they can cry all they want.

They won't follow it until someone with some money takes them to court and f*cks them, and there are plenty of people with money there.

 

[safetyfirst2125]

Terrific news!!

 

[dixidawg]

Not directly right now. All the decisions from the past 12 years will be relitigated based on this ruling.

What rulings against us used strict or intermediate scrutiny? I assume this ruling puts all those cases back in play? That could be yuuuuge.

 

[Coyote33]

Yeah but at least there is a decision stopping them from simply expanding this across the board. If I recall Longmeadow MA tried to outlaw carrying in all public places including roads.

What was that case? How did it end up?

This also puts to bed any insurance laws to own guns!

How so?

 

[Rob Boudrie]

A first step should be not just "shall issue" but "shall issue without restrictions". Two potential cases come to mind:

1) a person denied for a non-disabling record (expired RO; not guilty finding; dismissed charges; etc.)
2) a person denied unrestricted outright, or issued a restricted LTC. Brookline, meet Comm2A

 

[sig shooter]

How do we think this will pan out in MA? Reads like the LTC/FID scheme will stay. However, the chief loses all power and they must issue the unrestricted license if the person is not statutorily prohibited.