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Yesterday my Dad and I were driving out to the MRA for my weekly practice, and about 2 minutes before we arrived we came to a stop sign at a four way intersection. There was a car across the street turning to our right, we were turning left. As we both crossed, a kid in the backseat took an Airsoft handgun, rolled down the window, and aimed the gun just above our car. Needless to say my dad and I were scared shitless for a second, but we realized what it was after seeing the blaze-orange tip. Nevertheless, what the hell was going through this kid's head? Much less, where were his parents? I can understand they can't be watching him the entire time they're in the car, but for Christs sake, the kid was maybe 10 years old.
 
Its just a matter of time before we read a story of someone being shot dead because some stupid person pionts a air soft gun at the wrong person.
 
Kids are just stupider these days. Ive had BB guns and Airsofts since I was a kid and yeah we played around (cops & Robbers) but never did we point them at someone who knew we wernt just playing. I also think people are more skittish. Its todays society 10 year old kids jacking you for you shoes? Shit Sucks
 
Kids are just stupider these days..

There's a lot of irony in that sentence, but I tend to agree. Not that I'd know if kids thirty years ago were smarter, but there are some real dumbasses out there.
 
bigbear383 said:
Kids are just stupider these days. ...
Disagree strongly!
Kids were just as stupid 50 years ago, but the world was a more friendly and forgiving place.
Life is a LOT more dangerous and complicated today (WE DID THAT!) and kids have to grow up faster and smarter to survive and succeed.
I feel so bad that my grandson can't ejoy the things that I did, and that he is subject to the constant pressure and PC BS that has become the norm.
Life really does kind of suck for the young ones, whether they realize it or not.
 
Kalahari, I would recommend that you NOT mention this incident to the local PD in Newton. The last thing you guys need there is any type of negative firearm PR. I would have reported the incident to State Police and include the make, model and plate number of the car. Someday soon you will be in a position to respond to such a threat, I hope you demonstate the same common sense you have shown here on this forum. BTW, how is carpentry class?


Chris
 
jhrosier said:
Disagree strongly!
Kids were just as stupid 50 years ago, but the world was a more friendly and forgiving place.
Life is a LOT more dangerous and complicated today (WE DID THAT!) and kids have to grow up faster and smarter to survive and succeed.
I feel so bad that my grandson can't ejoy the things that I did, and that he is subject to the constant pressure and PC BS that has become the norm.
Life really does kind of suck for the young ones, whether they realize it or not.
I couldn't agree more. It's sad, I think, that kids today have to grow up so fast. They need to be smarter, quicker, cooler, exposed to everything before they're seven....savvy, hip, ya, right, they're stressed, depressed, can't play outdoors, can't just be children. [hmmm]
 
I agree a bit. I'm not about to go kill myself because there's nothing to do, but there are a lot of things I wish I could try/do that are just plain restricted. I find myself extraordinarily lucky to be able to go shooting every Monday night. Nowadays though, lifelong skills and programs (most notable, Boy Scouts) are frowned upon pretty heavily. I think everyone could probably benefit from that kinda stuff. Even religious activity is disliked here.

I definately see the differences in generations. When my dad, grandfather and I sit down to talk, it's interesting to compare all the different aspects of ourselves and think about what influenced the change.


ChristosX said:
Kalahari, I would recommend that you NOT mention this incident to the local PD in Newton. The last thing you guys need there is any type of negative firearm PR. I would have reported the incident to State Police and include the make, model and plate number of the car. Someday soon you will be in a position to respond to such a threat, I hope you demonstate the same common sense you have shown here on this forum. BTW, how is carpentry class?


Chris


I'm not going to. It occured in Woburn anyways. The last thing I want is more Brady-Campaign liberals getting lame evidence for gun control. It wasn't a huge deal, more of the fact that the parents let him do it and that he didn't have the common sense to keep the fake gun in the car. Carpentry is good, I talked to Barboza about you. He claims to be the one that got you into the sport. Says when you first got into it "he bought everything he saw." He's a good guy, but not the easiest person to have a conversation with.
 
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Kalahari said:
I agree a bit. I'm not about to go kill myself because there's nothing to do, but there are a lot of things I wish I could try/do that are just plain restricted. I find myself extraordinarily lucky to be able to go shooting every Monday night. Nowadays though, lifelong skills and programs (most notable, Boy Scouts) are frowned upon pretty heavily. I think everyone could probably benefit from that kinda stuff. Even religious activity is disliked here.

I definately see the differences in generations. When my dad, grandfather and I sit down to talk, it's interesting to compare all the different aspects of ourselves and think about what influenced the change.

I think that every generation says that about the one after them...

And Scouts weren't that accepted when I was a kid either. Other kids used to give me a hard time for being in the Scouts. But, I just blew them off... I got to go camping, hiking, shooting, and do things at the Scout camp that they wished they were able to do.

I think that there are plenty of things for kids to do, you just have to look for them. And it starts by turning off the xBox and getting off the couch. That needs to start with the parents.

I think that parents have gotten lazy over the years. Too many people thinking that the world is going to protect thier kids, and they get lazy. That or they are just plain scared to raise thier kids because they are afriad of being put in jail for telling thier kids no.
 
People nowadays are lazy, no doubt about that. But I think today, people are more shaped by the people around them and their society. I really wouldn't know, but I have to assume that nowadays, there's a lot less individualism.
 
When I was a child, I wasn't allowed to have a toy gun. They teach poor habits, my father says. Now remember, I didn't have a Liberal upbringing, I grew up in a Gun Shop.
 
I agree.

C-pher said:
I think that every generation says that about the one after them...

And Scouts weren't that accepted when I was a kid either. Other kids used to give me a hard time for being in the Scouts. But, I just blew them off... I got to go camping, hiking, shooting, and do things at the Scout camp that they wished they were able to do.

I think that there are plenty of things for kids to do, you just have to look for them. And it starts by turning off the xBox and getting off the couch. That needs to start with the parents.

I think that parents have gotten lazy over the years. Too many people thinking that the world is going to protect thier kids, and they get lazy. That or they are just plain scared to raise thier kids because they are afriad of being put in jail for telling thier kids no.

Seems to me every generation has the same complaints.

My son recently earned his Wolf Badge and wants to continue with Scouting next year. Although he has several classmates in his den I have to wonder how supportive the other kid's parents are. Some of the kid's don't bother to wear the uniform or don't wear it properly. A little more parental involvement would help. He's proud of being a Scout and insisted on wearing his uniform for the class portrait. When he heard we were going up to Vermont for the Memorial Day Campout & shoot he was concerned that he would'nt be marching in the local Memorial Day Parade. Of course we reassured him he could be in the parade.

Are Scouting and religious activites really "Frowned upon" and "Disliked" in the hub ? Is it that bad ? !
 
I think it's a conspiracy....some anti-gunner bought that toy for his kid, decided to drive him around and told him to point it out the window at poeple to see what happened or how many people complained. Just more negative press for the pro-gunners. If he gets caught he reprimands the kid...no harm no foul on his part....

lots of "what if' in the news.
 
MrTwigg said:
Seems to me every generation has the same complaints.

My son recently earned his Wolf Badge and wants to continue with Scouting next year. Although he has several classmates in his den I have to wonder how supportive the other kid's parents are. Some of the kid's don't bother to wear the uniform or don't wear it properly. A little more parental involvement would help. He's proud of being a Scout and insisted on wearing his uniform for the class portrait. When he heard we were going up to Vermont for the Memorial Day Campout & shoot he was concerned that he would'nt be marching in the local Memorial Day Parade. Of course we reassured him he could be in the parade.

Are Scouting and religious activites really "Frowned upon" and "Disliked" in the hub ? Is it that bad ? !


That's a lot of the problem now. I have a friend that quit being a Scout Master after 12 years of it because the parents don't care. He'd become a babysitter, and that's not what scouts were about.

Also, he said that he couldn't afford it...a lot of the kids parents weren't paying the dues, so he would cover things like food and such for the trips out of his own pocket. I'm hearing that several troops around are closing because of the same reason. It's a shame because the Scouts teach kids a lot more than just how to tie knots and put up a tent.

Looking back, the Scouts were some of the best times of my life...and I kick myself every day when we moved and not finding a troop to get from Life to Eagle. That was no ones fault but mine... More worried about new friends at the time than getting Eagle. That's a kid for you...
 
I had the standard matching pair of six-shooter cap guns when I was growing up. Used to run all around the woods in Marlborough (when there was woods there) getting the 'bad guys'.

I knew better than to point them at a human. I knew the difference between make believe and real. When we moved to NH and I carried the .22 through the woods, it was a completely DIFFERENT mindset.

I think the difference is what kids are taught and what they are allowed to get away with. You screwed up when I was a kid, and any one of the neighbors would take a stick to your hide or drag you kicking and screaming to your parents. Kids respected adults.

Today... Well, today all our guns are locked up. Need I say more?
 
Chris said:
I had the standard matching pair of six-shooter cap guns when I was growing up. Used to run all around the woods in Marlborough (when there was woods there)

Chris, when you're better, come on down to Marlboro and I'll show you where the woods are still are - there are still a few state forests where there are woods still. Or come on over to my place... most of my property (which isn't terribly big, I know!) is woods. I won't cut them down (unlike my neighbor!).
 
when I was a kid around 1970, we would play guns in the streets of our neighborhood in Brookline, MA and if didn't have enough toy guns for everybody, one of the guys would go get his dad's Garand. Nobody ever wanted to play with it because it was heavy and didn't make any sound.
You couldn't really run with it much if you were only 7 years old.

So kids really aren't dumber today.
 
MrTwigg said:
Are Scouting and religious activites really "Frowned upon" and "Disliked" in the hub ? Is it that bad ? !

Scouting, definately. I dont' know a single kid in the scouts at my school. I know of one kid in the Civil Air Patrol, but thats it. As far as religion, it isn't so much frowned upon as just disliked. Most of the kids don't like it, but there are some exceptions. I personally didn't go to CCD, though I wish I had.
 
Chris said:
I had the standard matching pair of six-shooter cap guns when I was growing up. Used to run all around the woods in Marlborough (when there was woods there) getting the 'bad guys'.

I knew better than to point them at a human. I knew the difference between make believe and real. When we moved to NH and I carried the .22 through the woods, it was a completely DIFFERENT mindset.

I think the difference is what kids are taught and what they are allowed to get away with. You screwed up when I was a kid, and any one of the neighbors would take a stick to your hide or drag you kicking and screaming to your parents. Kids respected adults.

Today... Well, today all our guns are locked up. Need I say more?

right...and then your father would tear into you because you direspected the neighbor.....and had to be brought home. You do that to someone's kid today and you'd be in jail......
 
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