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Strange Dick's Sporting Goods Incident and Store Policy

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So I called up Dick's Sporting Goods looking for a particular rifle. I called the Dedham store, and they did in fact not only have the rifle (pretty high-end model), but the price was amazing, far below what I expected. I told them to please hold it for me and I would be over to pick it up. I get to store, and they have the rifle, it is exactly what I want, and like I said, price is awesome. But, the salesman tells me that their fingerprint scanner is broken and I'll need my pin. He apologizes profusely for not telling me this when I called. I don't know my pin, but no problem, I'm not upset in any way and the guy is far more apologetic than necessary. I figure I can always go home and get pin, and pick up rifle during the week. On a whim, I ask the guy if he can check another store to see if they have it, because maybe I can just get it there if their scanner is fine. Turns out they have 2 in North Attleboro, which is near where I live anyway, so I'm pleased. So I head over to that store. So far everything is good, impressed by Dick's.

I get to North Attleboro store (super nice Lodge there), and they have the rifle, price is same, and the Lodge salesman is pretty nice and knowledgeable guy. I go through the purchase, no problem, very relaxing straightforward experience. They even have the somewhat strange ammo for it, so I get some of that. The salesman walks me up front, we stand in line. Get up to the cash register, they ring it up, no problems. I pull out credit card to pay, and the cashier asks "would you like to sign up to our rewards card (Dick's Scorecard)?" I say "No thank you." This is where it gets strange.

At this point cashier says I *have* to sign up for it. But I don't want to, so I say no thank you. Manager is there, and says that since I'm purchasing a firearm, I have to sign up to it. I respond that no, I don't have to, that makes no sense. So we go back and forth for a few minutes, and I get more annoyed. I look like a younger kid, but I'm in my 30s so I'm a little too old to get brow-beaten into something, especially when it is another scheme to get my name, address, telephone, email... Especially if I don't want it. Sure, it may be a great idea and save me tons of money, but I should still have right to say no. If I were forced to say yes to every card in every store it would be insanity. So the back and forth gets decently heated because I don't take kindly to being told what I *have* to do, especially when I'm the customer spending money in the store.

So I decide to fight this out to end, and I refuse to budge. Manager tells me that I can sign up and throw it away in parking lot if I want, it doesn't matter. To which I respond "why would I sign up for something I intend to throw away?!". Manager then tries to tell me that I won't get any junk mail or anything at all. But I don't care, I don't want to do it for whatever reason. So he at some point says "but I'm just asking you to sign up for this" to which I say flat out "you are demanding. I have no choice, you aren't taking 'no' as an answer. I'm saying no. You are demanding and requiring, not asking. Admit it." At this point, I am raising my voice somewhat, so other customers at the registers can hear.

Since I pretty much called him as clearly as possible on the fact that he was giving me no damn choice and was forcing me into it, and other customers were most likely now looking over to see what was happening, the manager finally gave in and suddenly they didn't need me to sign up for it and the sale continued without it. The manager was a nice guy, shook my hand, but it was still pretty strange.

I bring this up not to say that Dick's sucks or the people in the store were bad. On the contrary, I was actually having an excellent shopping experience and the prices were beating pretty much any other place I could think of. The salespeople were very helpful and friendly, and even were overly apologetic to small issues over which they had no control.

I just want people to keep an eye on store policies like this, and to push back on them, so that they don't grow and end up cropping up all over the place. There is no reason why I should have to give a store my information just to purchase an item from them. If they want to make a reward card available, great, but it should be an opt in, not an argue-for-fifteen-minutes-just-to-opt-out. This was definitely a case where I felt that there was an attempt to strong arm me into something I didn't want, and in such cases I push back 10x more. Keep an eye on this sort of thing guys.
 
That is quite strange. Never had a good experience at Dicks (at either the Dedham or NA store). The kids that work there are absolutely clueless but I guess I would be to if I made minimum wage.

You certainly DO NOT have to sign up for their rewards card, one of the employees could have put the purchase on their card or another customers just randomly. Why would you not want to sign up for it though? I have a rewards card and never receive junk mail. Bought a $400 safe this past weekend that accrued me $30 in rewards points.
 
wish i could comment but i do have a score card... with a few firearms and ammo purchasing trips along with a pair of shoes i ended up with enough gift rewards to get a few hundred rounds of ammo for free.
 
It is his " CHOICE " to not want to participate, no reasons needed or beating him over the head whether its a smart reason or not to join. I realize opinions are welcome, but he clearly stated his intentions to just buy the god damn rifle and move on, without f---ing reasons. Christ people, you all sound like a bunch of Cali Libs, screw the Dick manager for pushing him on it.
Glad to see you got a good deal though!!
 
They call it "Dicks" for a reason.
The extra money you spend at a Mom-n-Pop is well worth it, IMO.

What he said. I shop as far down the retail "foodchain" as I can. I'd rather support the folks who live in my neighborhood then put up with the crap big corporations and idiot employees attempt to force on the public.

Most likely the manager had a quota of reward programs to "sell".
 
It is his " CHOICE " to not want to participate, no reasons needed or beating him over the head whether its a smart reason or not to join. I realize opinions are welcome, but he clearly stated his intentions to just buy the god damn rifle and move on, without f---ing reasons. Christ people, you all sound like a bunch of Cali Libs, screw the Dick manager for pushing him on it.
Glad to see you got a good deal though!!

free crap is always cool but the OP should have had every right to opt-out of signing up for the card and still should have been able to make his purchase. they pushed the issue so he left and exercised his right to take his business elsewhere. that's how it should be and that's exactly what happened.

and now: yeah, okay... CA libs... right. over a comment on a store promotion card. [rolleyes]

pop a couple of these:
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and relax. i would have reacted the same way if the store i shopped at took the same approach to "offering" me the card. take your righteous indignation elsewhere, i don't think the OP wanted you to bust into his thread like the kool-aid man screaming "YOU'RE ALL SOCIALIST KALIFORNIA LIBTARDS OHHHH YEEEEEEAAAHHHH!"
 
Make up an address, I use to do this at Radio Shack when they would not process a cash order without an address

1600 Pennsylvania Avenue Northwest
Washington D.C., DC 20500
 
That is strange but I've had it happen at other big box stores. I think they get some sort of incentives for signing people up and make up these excuses.

Radio Shack does it every time. Last time I was there on the tax holiday and the young clerk told me I had to give her my info to get the tax discount. I kept my cool and told her that was absolutely NOT a requirement. She backed off that statement very quickly.

The worst was when Best Buy slammed me with a card and then I got a charge for internet service on the credit card I used because I "didn't cancel" the service. The AG went after them for that but after that I am very suspicious of any box store that enrolls you in something.
 
Hubby and I went to the NA store as well. We didn't have a problem with the score card, we had a problem buying a rifle.

We saw a Rossi 3 in 1, and decided our teen's would get a kick out of shooting it, and it was short enough for mom's arms too.

The problem came in that the salesman, didn't want to sell the rifle.
He first said he'd have to check the computer to see if he had any, then he had to walk out back and see if he had one, (took 15 min, with all the blabber to go along with it), he found one NIB, but insisted on opening it, and unwrapping every piece (blabbering away while slowly removing everything from the box, we could clearly see every piece through the plastic), he then said the paperwork would take 1 hour to complete, and since it was 45 min to closing he didn't think he could do it in time..... since he saw we weren't leaving, he decided to hand hubby the paperwork to fill out, (making sure to repeatedly tell hubby not to make any mistakes, or he wouldn't process it for him), hubby was more than 1/2 way through the paperwork, when the clerk decided to log onto the secure site, at which point a flashing message comes with a general error asking if he wanted to proceed to the secure site, he turned to us and said "there is an error, I can't complete this you have to come back tomorrow", at that point I looked at the error message, and told him to click on the cancel tab, and reload the page..... amazingly the error went away..... he then gets to the secure site with no problems, all the while chatting with us about how he's sure the page won't load again, we had to point out to him that if he turned around he'd notice the page was already loaded and ready to go,....... the clerk entered all his info then the screen really started flashing at him, evidently he hadn't sold a gun in over a year, so he had to be retrained and certified in order to sell a gun and get a new password........ The gall of this idiot was that he wanted to make sure we would come back tomorrow, and buy the rifle.

Just for fun we repeatedly assured him that YES, we would be back, and we weren't wasting his time. LOL The clerk wanted my hubby's 1/2 filled out paperwork, and hubby told him NO, not unless you have a shredder and I watch you shred it! He kept saying it was policy to keep the paperwork and throw it in their trash. (Not on your life, we told him.)
 
I'll explain what you saw, my wife works in retail and has the same "policy" to deal with.

Marketing research has determined that people with a "store card" be it credit or rewards, spend more on average per trip then those with out.

The policies being put in place are "get the sign up at ALL cost" make the customer say no at least 6 times, the manager at the store albeit pushy, was saving his job, they are on quotas to get a certian number of sign ups a day, and not getting the numbers will result in disiplinary action. Like it or not, expect to see a lot more of this in other retail stores in the near future.

I would feel sorry for the manager and get a hold of the corporate office and rip them a new one. This is where it is coming from.
 
I've never had a problem with the Dick's in Leominster. My purchases there have always been smooth and uneventful. One of the guys who works in the Lodge department is actually a member here, and a pretty good dude.
It all depends on who you get, really.
 
Like I said, the people there were nice, but the store policy is the problem. If the manager gets in trouble if he doesn't meet quota that sucks, totally. But I still don't want a card, maybe one day. I like that Bass Pro didn't force me, and I decided on my own to do it after a year since I was noticing how many times I went there. Dick's should do the same. I'm smart enough to figure out how to save money.

On a side note, after all this, me saying NO who knows how many times, they also asked if I wanted to make a donation to Cancer Fund to "save children's lives" or "stop children from dying". It was definitely something snarky like this that the cashier said. This was a dick move, because he was implying something at that point, and I do regret not call him on his little dig. That was slightly insulting, and I'm pretty sure the cashier donates far less than I do to causes, but at that point I was just happy to leave. No point in fighting with minimum wage young cashier anyway.

We all need to just protect our rights from being eroded. Things like this are first step.
 
free crap is always cool but the OP should have had every right to opt-out of signing up for the card and still should have been able to make his purchase. they pushed the issue so he left and exercised his right to take his business elsewhere. that's how it should be and that's exactly what happened.

and now: yeah, okay... CA libs... right. over a comment on a store promotion card. [rolleyes]

pop a couple of these:
chillpillm.gif
and relax. i would have reacted the same way if the store i shopped at took the same approach to "offering" me the card. take your righteous indignation elsewhere, i don't think the OP wanted you to bust into his thread like the kool-aid man screaming "YOU'RE ALL SOCIALIST KALIFORNIA LIBTARDS OHHHH YEEEEEEAAAHHHH!"
OK, your right, I had a bad hair experience, like little if any. I apologize if I went over the edge. Most of you all don't even come close to center, never mind Cali Lib. Please accept, I beg of thee!
But I hate pushy salesfolks, especially when they walk around like a poop cleaner behind a horse.
 
Make up an address, I use to do this at Radio Shack when they would not process a cash order without an address

1600 Pennsylvania Avenue Northwest
Washington D.C., DC 20500

I do the same but include a real eMail address... Not MY eMail address,mind you as I've set-up a Hotmail and GMail account just for these purposes.

The Hotmail/GMail accounts are Free and it presents a graceful way to satisfy their demand without giving up anything... Besides I can always go check out any ads, promotions, points balances, etc later and either delete the account or change the thing to my real eMail should it prove useful.

I understand the real issue is privacy and free choice and that this isn't a new and revolutionary appraoch but it works and helps me avoid higher blood pressure.
 
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I will give dicks in Danvers props for sending people to a real gun store when they are over their head. we would frequently get people at the local gun shop that were directed to the store by dicks employees.
 
but balls are cheap at dicks. along with other sporting goods, they are reasonably priced.

yeah they have other nice stuff, but the gun selection is straight out of FUDD land & most of the people that work there arent stellar when it comes down to guns only stuff.
 
why do people buy guns at dicks? [rofl]

One of the first times I was looking at guns at Dick’s I wasn’t thrilled with the feeling I was getting from the employees. But when I was actually there to buy I didn’t have any problems and they were very helpful. I knew what I wanted and didn’t really have and hard questions for them so that may have helped.

I bought a Savage Mark II with a laminate stock and scope at Dick’s over a year ago. It was on sale for about $300. I picked up another one (same model number but it is now made a little bit different) about 3 months ago at Dick’s that was on sale for about $250.

I got the rewards card; it is not a charge card. I think that for every 300 dollars that you spend they give you a $10 reward certificate. I figured that they already had all of my information from me buying the gun so I wasn’t giving them any more info then they already had.

The reason that I bought these 22cal rifles at Dick’s is I had looked for the same gun else ware but couldn’t find it. I haven’t found any gun stores in my area that either carries the kind of things I am looking for at a reasonable price. Or that doesn’t have a serious attitude problem and sometimes both. One store that I bought a few things from in the last couple of years decided to close down recently.

The thing that bugs me is the first $10 reward that they sent me I didn’t notice how quickly it expired and before I knew it, it was worthless. And the points that you accumulate seem to also expire and reset to 0 in what looks to me to be once a year. I have a $10 rewards certificate that expires on Saturday so I may go and see if they have anything I need before then.
 
The only time I've bought firearms related stuff at dicks is when I visit my parents, and I know I need ammo. All the local gun shops close too early, so unless I leave work early I never make it in time.
 
I have quit shopping at the North Attleboro Dick's store. They are rude and ignore me or ask me " What does your Husband want you to pick up?"

The Manager of the hunting department is condescending and I have repeatedly emailed & spoken to the corporate office. I only go to Bass Pro Shops now, they are always nice.
 
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