SteelShooter
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Anyone have a way to store emergency water in a vehicle without it freezing? I made up some emergency bags for my kids trucks and included some bottled water, but obviously it freezes solid. Any thoughts?
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Storing Water in vehicle
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I just partially fill the containers, myself. You can melt it faster than you die of thirst, so no problemo. Having a smaller container or two or three is easier to thaw than a big jug.
one-eyed Jack
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I store vodka. Won't freeze. Jack.
Why waste the water?
How much are you looking to store? I typically carry a bottle of watter with me so when I'm driving I have water in the car. If you're looking for a small amount, that's one way to do it. If you're looking for an amount for long term survival, then that's a whole 'nother story.
bfm
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Evian. Seriously. The mineral content is high enough that it really takes an extreme freeze to turn it into ice. I have seen it stay liquid after a couple days of single digit temps. Only problem is if you are not used to the mineral content it can cause some stomach problems. Not everyone has this problem but it is worth knowing before hand if you do or not.
bfm
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should mention one other thing. While it is not frozen, drinking water that is 5-10 degrees is a bit shocking.
Found all this out when someone left a bottle in my car and I was suprised when I found it and it was not frozen solid.
Found all this out when someone left a bottle in my car and I was suprised when I found it and it was not frozen solid.
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You CAN drink antifreeze....no one is saying that it's a good thing, though.....![[laugh]](/xen/styles/default/xenforo/smilies.vb/012.gif "Laugh [laugh]")
You need to add something to the water to reduce its freezing point. Sugar is a natural choice since it will provided needed calories in a survival situation, unfortuantely sugar's soluability drops rapidly as water cools and it's near impossible to get enough sugar into the water to drop its freezing point much. Even 25% gluclose solution freezes at about 23 degrees.
I tried looking for a good solution that safe to drink but has a very low melting point. Best I could come up with:
3 Cups Water + 1 Cup hard alcohol (25% / 50 proof) + 1/2 cup sugar + 2 Table Spoons salt. It should all dissolve fairly easily and drop the freezing point into the mid-teens, and when it does freeze, there will be a liquid core of very sweet tasting alcohol.
I tried looking for a good solution that safe to drink but has a very low melting point. Best I could come up with:
3 Cups Water + 1 Cup hard alcohol (25% / 50 proof) + 1/2 cup sugar + 2 Table Spoons salt. It should all dissolve fairly easily and drop the freezing point into the mid-teens, and when it does freeze, there will be a liquid core of very sweet tasting alcohol.
You CAN drink antifreeze....no one is saying that it's a good thing, though.....
I found out tonight that if you drink antifreeze, one way to prevent it from killing you is to drink vodka. The vodka inhibits the receptors that the antifreeze would normally f with. Of course, the real solution is to get hospital grade alcohol, but vodka works in a pinch.
a) It's kinda hard to drink
b) When it's frozen, usually it's cold out. Drinking ~32* water when it's already cold can lower your core temp to a dangerous level.
Personally, I keep a case of the .5L bottles in the car. Never had a problem with them bursting when frozen, and they're small enough that you can tuck a few in your jacket and your body's waste heat will thaw them sufficiently.
SteelShooter
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Well, they are packs for my 18 and 21 year olds at college. I don't think I can rely on them to bring it in and out every time they get in their vehicle. The idea is that they are sitting in their vehicles and they don't have to worry (meaning me) about whether they have it with them or not.
Alcohol is probably not a good idea either. I'm going to try some hand warmers and see how long it takes to melt the water a little at a time, those are cheap enough to keep a dozen or so more in there on top of what I already planned. Thanks for the ideas.
SteelShooter
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Thanks - just ordered it. Their shipping charges are crazy though. 1 case of the stuff is $14.00 and the shipping is $30.00.
Holy crap. Effin gas prices.
Whaaat? Google is your friend...$14.99 + $8.95 shipping or FREE shipping for in-store pick-up...
http://www.cabelas.com/product/Main...instay+water&WTz_l=Header;Search-All+Products
SteelShooter
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