I don’t think he needed to disclose that. Pretty obvious I’d say.I can see why.
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I don’t think he needed to disclose that. Pretty obvious I’d say.I can see why.
You're an idiot.You people really amuse me. I see countless threads on here about capitalism, supply and demand and increased prices are not gouging etc., etc, etc but wow, you really hate these storage places that charge fees. Capitalism comes in all forms. Don't blame the shop, blame the police dept. Not every PD uses a bonded wearhouze
Another troll accountI don’t think he needed to disclose that. Pretty obvious I’d say.
Not of their bonded warehouse.Didn’t read the whole thread but not sure why the complaints? Their website says 18,000 happy customers and 100% satisfaction! Guess there’s one in every crowd
About as much as if they shoot my elderly blind dog. In MA they can even shoot a person whose life matters at point blank range with an AR15 and the ADA will talk of "accident for which no charges are appropriate" before the body is cold, and the officer will remain on active armed duty for a decade and counting after the "ooops". (Duncan shooting Stamps in Framingham, around 1991)What would happen if the cops forced open your safe while holding you at gunpoint, confiscated your paperwork and trashed it. gave your guns to these thefthouse people and said too bad. What recourse do you have in MA? Maybe better to keep the really valuable guns out of state and keep "basics only" at home?
The proper economic term is "rent seeking behavior".I'll respond to all the derisive comments one time. It is capitalism.
this guy economics-esThe proper economic term is "rent seeking behavior".
It's not capitalism (and is in fact the opposite) when the actual owner of the property doesn't get a say in where it goes....after the government takes it from him. And in this case the "bonded warhouse" doesn't even have to compete with other companies for price.....and gets to f*** the owner of the property over for as much money as they want.You people really amuse me. I see countless threads on here about capitalism, supply and demand and increased prices are not gouging etc., etc, etc but wow, you really hate these storage places that charge fees. Capitalism comes in all forms. Don't blame the shop, blame the police dept. Not every PD uses a bonded wearhouze
Didn't I read in one of your earlier posts that the pd took your guns a year ago? Why did you wait so long to inquire about your property? Seems like you dropped the ball yourself a little in this case. Just being honest.I will as soon as I move out of Massivetwoshits. Thank you
I'll give him $48. Im not f***ing joking either.I’ll give Derek the $24 just to ban you.
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I'll respond to all the derisive comments one time. It is capitalism. Yes the state of Massachusetts created this entire bonded wearhouse thing but if it is as profitable as everyone here says it is then many folks would be setting these things up. Then there would be competition. It is probably not very profitable, with burglar and fire protection, insurance, employees, regulatory compliance etc. That is probably why there are so few of these wear houses. I do not see how this is gouging and horrible and a bad thing when all these same folks say that ammo venders can charge whatever they want. And if you don't like things you are free to run for office and effect change. Or just move. And I have a lot of friends in MA and not every PD does the whole wearhouse thing.
In response to all those who say go green, I looked at the Green benefits again, heres the list and the reasons why Green is not for me:
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Other benefits include:
- Access to sell items in the classifieds, I have sold fewer than 10 guns in the last 40 years. Means nothing to me.
- Firearms giveaway every month, I've seen those, nothing that interests me
- Frequent NES Members group shoots, at least 3 per year, Im a loner
- Frequent NES Members luncheons/dinners, Im a loner
- All Group Buys are restricted to NES Members only, I have many friends and family members who have FFLs, get plenty of good deals
- NES Tours/Trips to firearms manufacturers plants, etc., Who cares
- Special Discount deals As I said, I have many friends and family members who have FFLs
Before we go completely batshit crazy on this shop, does anyone actually know for sure if it is a predatory MA bonded warehouse?
I appreciate that, I’ll keep it in mind for sure. I’m not going bat shit on them. I’m trying to give them the benefit of the doubt but it’s hard to because of a few red flags right off the bat for an example the letter dated back in January however it’s post marked 4 days ago....OP:
The owner of J&S has been sick, in and out of the hospital, might be why you're getting the runaround.
Shoot me a PM and I'll go with you to get them, and will then transfer your guns to whomever you want free of charge. If you can't get anyone over there let me know and I'll text one of the guys who works there.
Yes I guess I did drop the ball a bit because it had been a long court process that ended up getting squashed at the end and I was just relieved to have it over with also I was completely unaware of how this part of it all worked (ignorance is no excuse) however I’m trying to get the matter resolved but kinda getting the run around... that’s the issue at hand right now.Didn't I read in one of your earlier posts that the pd took your guns a year ago? Why did you wait so long to inquire about your property? Seems like you dropped the ball yourself a little in this case. Just being honest.
There’s another review of them online basically the exact same situation. Firearms were in their storage system and the guy was getting the run around.Before we go completely batshit crazy on this shop, does anyone actually know for sure if it is a predatory MA bonded warehouse?
I have no idea. This is the first I heard of them in that light. Let's remember that some everyday gun shops also offer storage services.
My comment was not aimed at you at all. It was aimed at the greater NES membership. All I am saying is let's be damn sure this shop is, indeed, a predatory MA bonded warehouse before we go dissing them. I try to keep up on which businesses are MA bonded warehouses masquerading as everyday honest gun shops. This one would be a new one on me.I’m not going bat shit on them.
Well, okay. If they are truly bonded warehouse scum, then now we know about it. Start the boycott.There’s another review of them online basically the exact same situation. Firearms were in their storage system and the guy was getting the run around.
Lol. What a clown.I'll respond to all the derisive comments one time. It is capitalism. Yes the state of Massachusetts created this entire bonded wearhouse thing but if it is as profitable as everyone here says it is then many folks would be setting these things up. Then there would be competition. It is probably not very profitable, with burglar and fire protection, insurance, employees, regulatory compliance etc. That is probably why there are so few of these wear houses. I do not see how this is gouging and horrible and a bad thing when all these same folks say that ammo venders can charge whatever they want. And if you don't like things you are free to run for office and effect change. Or just move. And I have a lot of friends in MA and not every PD does the whole wearhouse thing.
In response to all those who say go green, I looked at the Green benefits again, heres the list and the reasons why Green is not for me:
Memberships benefits include ability to upload attachments totaling up to 10mb to the server, private messages storage goes from 50 to 5000 messages, ability set self to invisible mode, use a personal signature, ability to upload a profile picture to the server, ability to upload a avatar picture to the server, and access to the NES Members Forum. ***Absolutely no refunds, by signing up for a membership you agree to these terms.*** I have no need to upload attachments or store private messages.
Other benefits include:
- Access to sell items in the classifieds, I have sold fewer than 10 guns in the last 40 years. Means nothing to me.
- Firearms giveaway every month, I've seen those, nothing that interests me
- Frequent NES Members group shoots, at least 3 per year, Im a loner
- Frequent NES Members luncheons/dinners, Im a loner
- All Group Buys are restricted to NES Members only, I have many friends and family members who have FFLs, get plenty of good deals
- NES Tours/Trips to firearms manufacturers plants, etc., Who cares
- Special Discount deals As I said, I have many friends and family members who have FFLs
All I'm saying is let's be damn sure. Let's not put a gun shop out of business without verifying.
Going green supports the 2a?Lol. What a clown.
FYI, the reason to “go green” has nothing to do with any of the reasons you mention. The reason is to support the overall gun owning community. The one that’s constantly under attack. Same reason to support GOAL. Has nothing to do with what personal benefit is.
You’re one rung below a FUDD. Whatever the hell that even is.
Dude, you're obviously juggling a lot of chainsaws,I appreciate that, I’ll keep it in mind for sure.Shoot me a PM and I'll go with you to get them, and will then transfer your guns to whomever you want free of charge. If you can't get anyone over there let me know and I'll text one of the guys who works there.
So:
Extortion = OK
Drunk driving = bad
Yes regardless of being sick or whatever the issue is they remain open for normal business hours.In terms of magnitude, the 'cray cray' meter is far from pegging on batshit.
The shop is holding onto his property and has issued some sort of notice. Issuing notice seems, to me, to indicate they are following legal requirements before dispositioning the property in a situation where 'time is of the essence'. OP has since stepped up to the table.
The optics of a 'run-around' or slow walking really doesn't work towards a favorable perception. Kind-of up to the shop to decide to do the right thing, to engage the OP in a fair manner, and to address the situation. Could be something simple for instance, 'we got you, let's get this done xx/xx".
As far as the shop owner being sick, sorry to sound insensitive, but bs. I'm assuming the shop remains open for regular business?
OP, 'behind enemy lines' sound as though he's willing to help moderate. I'd consider taking that offer.
I'll respond to all the derisive comments one time. It is capitalism. Yes the state of Massachusetts created this entire bonded wearhouse thing but if it is as profitable as everyone here says it is then many folks would be setting these things up. Then there would be competition. It is probably not very profitable, with burglar and fire protection, insurance, employees, regulatory compliance etc. That is probably why there are so few of these wear houses. I do not see how this is gouging and horrible and a bad thing when all these same folks say that ammo venders can charge whatever they want. And if you don't like things you are free to run for office and effect change. Or just move. And I have a lot of friends in MA and not every PD does the whole wearhouse thing.