State forces ban on non-essential outside water use

[DW357]

It’s cheaper to let it die and then re-seed 1st or 2nd week in September and hope for enough rain.

It’s too much to water.

Not to mention I’d rather be out on the boat (or literally anything else) than spending my days cutting the grass. Less water the less I have to cut

 

[Marty McFly]

Does it belong to you? Can you show a receipt?

Some places, you get TAXED for rainfall!

If you dig down to my water table, you get free jet fuel, lead and Pfc's for free!

 

[OnTheRoad]

A couple times a day, I take a bowl full of water, $h!t in it and dump it all down the drain.

Be ungovernable.

 

[Gorony]

Just buy this sign for your yard. Usually shuts up the Karen’s.

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Until you get to towns like Stow that mimic the state BS mandates and ban irrigation even though the whole town AFAIK is 100% well.

 

[M1911]

Until you get to towns like Stow that mimic the state BS mandates and ban irrigation even though the whole town AFAIK is 100% well.

It is the towns on well water that have watering bans. The state limits the amount that they can pump. MWRA towns have far fewer watering bans.

 

[Christian]

Yup, noticed the water ban signs out about 3 weeks ago.

 

[Gorony]

It is the towns on well water that have watering bans. The state limits the amount that they can pump. MWRA towns have far fewer watering bans.

Sudbury has had its water ban signs out since last year (shrug). Idk.

 

[M1911]

Sudbury has had its water ban signs out since last year (shrug). Idk.

Yes. Sudbury, like Wayland, depends on wells. They are limited by DEP on how much they can pump, because of the impact of their pumping on the level of the water in the Sudbury River.

 

[Gorony]

Yes. Sudbury, like Wayland, depends on wells. They are limited by DEP on how much they can pump, because of the impact of their pumping on the level of the water in the Sudbury River.

It’s communal town water, just from town wells though, right? Stow is 100% private well (one per house) and they’re still jumping on the water ban and fine train. Same state regs?

 

[Mark from ?]

And we pay a water runoff fee based on the impermeable parts of our property, roofs, driveway and walkway. Not one piece of my property is sloped to the road, so I am adding zero to the storm water. If I have to pay, I'll use what I want.

This is absolutely full retard to me. Rutland, the town next to me started charging this right before I left.....I don't even understand the retard in taxing people for water that runs off their property. Your already taxing them for the buildings on their property!! Now your charging for water that runs off them? WHAT??

 

[TLB]

A couple times a day, I take a bowl full of water, $h!t in it and dump it all down the drain.

Be ungovernable.

Twice a day? I'm jealous!

 

[M1911]

It’s communal town water, just from town wells though, right? Stow is 100% private well (one per house) and they’re still jumping on the water ban and fine train. Same state regs?

Yes, Sudbury has a public water system, from town owned wells. I don’t know about the regulations on privately owned wells, but I assume that limitations on their use would be based on similar regulations.

 

[Mark from ?]

Not to mention I’d rather be out on the boat (or literally anything else) than spending my days cutting the grass. Less water the less I have to cut

Its like liming and fertilizing your lawn...seemed the years I did that we'd get mega shit ton of rain and I'd be mowing and trimming 2-3 days a week for 10 hours total just to keep up with it. On top of working, and not doing anything else cause it was raining, and when it wasn't I was mowing.

Fish/shoot/run/bike/sit on the lanai/ boat anytime I want now till it gets really hot......I do NOT miss lawn chores in the least.

Just was up my buddies last night, Jack Crevalle came into his canal....caught a bunch of them just off his back yard while drinking beer after shooting sporting clays.

Then my dad told me it snowed another 6" up there...oof.

 

[Taipan01]

Never heard the fish name Jack Crevalle. I thought you meant some dude named Jack and his rabble rousing buddies were in the canal horsing around while you and your posse were chugging beers on a deck and decided to go all in.

 

[timbo]

I can say definitively that I've never once felt the need to water my lawn, lol.

I grew up in Southern California, where you had to water copiously if you wanted any grass. Here? Nature does my watering.

Just going to mention SoCal...they are always under water bans but look at a google maps satellite view. Check how many homes have swimming pools and the number of golf courses each city/town has. They demand water bans but don't give two sh!ts about the largest consumers of water.

I remember living in the San Diego area during the 70s' and the water bans...we had to put a gallon jug in our toilet tanks to save a gallon per flush except...we had to flush TWICE to get everything to go down. So much for saving water.

 

[general disorder]

Pretty sure my town is just sitting around waiting for us to go two days in a row without rain so they can put there water bans in place like they did last year.

 

[Picton]

Just going to mention SoCal...they are always under water bans but look at a google maps satellite view. Check how many homes have swimming pools and the number of golf courses each city/town has. They demand water bans but don't give two sh!ts about the largest consumers of water.

I remember living in the San Diego area during the 70s' and the water bans...we had to put a gallon jug in our toilet tanks to save a gallon per flush except...we had to flush TWICE to get everything to go down. So much for saving water.

There are a number of reasons I'd never move back West. Shitty and completely unsustainable water policy is just one of them.

It makes no sense at all to me why we persist in putting massive population centers in deserts. It's not going to work, long-term; it only works short-term because we all pay an insane amount of money to make it work. Senseless. It's eventually one of the Big Huge Issues that's going to drag the entire country down.

 

[timbo]

There are a number of reasons I'd never move back West. Shitty and completely unsustainable water policy is just one of them.

It makes no sense at all to me why we persist in putting massive population centers in deserts. It's not going to work, long-term; it only works short-term because we all pay an insane amount of money to make it work. Senseless. It's eventually one of the Big Huge Issues that's going to drag the entire country down.

Have you ever read Edward Abby's Desert Solitaire? He goes into that whole thing in that book. It's one of my favorite books.
It's a collection of essays that he wrote while being a ranger in Arches Nat'l Monument in Moab, UT in the late 50's (he was the only ranger there at the time).
He was quite a character...Cactus Ed they would call him. I met him at an outdoor outfitters in San Diego in the 70's (A16 store). He definitely could be "prickly".

 

[Picton]

Have you ever read Edward Abby's Desert Solitaire? He goes into that whole thing in that book. It's one of my favorite books.
It's a collection of essays that he wrote while being a ranger in Arches Nat'l Monument in Moab, UT in the late 50's (he was the only ranger there at the time).
He was quite a character...Cactus Ed they would call him. I met him at an outdoor outfitters in San Diego in the 70's (A16 store). He definitely could be "prickly".

I went to college in a western state, and took a course on the history of US water policy. It was the most frightening material I've ever learned.

Abby wrote a number of the readings, though I don't remember that one. Maybe? It was a long time ago now.

 

[timbo]

I went to college in a western state, and took a course on the history of US water policy. It was the most frightening material I've ever learned.

Abby wrote a number of the readings, though I don't remember that one. Maybe? It was a long time ago now.

He did a lot of other fiction and non-fiction writings too...he could be a little over the top when it came to some ecological stuff but a lot of what he warned about in his essays came to pass over the years. Back when he wrote these books he was called an eco-terrorist, etc. Decades later, one realizes he was not far from the truth in many things.

He wrote quite a few articles for Outside magazine while he was alive...a fairly (ok...a lot) leftwing periodical...many of those articles were in Desert Solitaire.

 

[Roadglide]

It’s communal town water, just from town wells though, right? Stow is 100% private well (one per house) and they’re still jumping on the water ban and fine train. Same state regs?

If the wells are influenced by surface water that might have something to do with it. Contained aquifers are a different story I would assume. You also have to remember when it comes to water private doesn’t always mean private. There’s usually some sort of public crossover that will get you hung up. The way you describe that town (one well per house) leads me to believe the town has some influence.

 

[Rockrivr1]

It’s unfortunately only a matter of time before the human race destroys all potable water for human consumption unless it’s processed and bottled. We’ll start to get water deliveries like we get oil or propane and pricing will be through the roof. We can’t help but destroy what we need for life. Humans are greedy and dumb.

 

[M1911]

Just going to mention SoCal...they are always under water bans but look at a google maps satellite view. Check how many homes have swimming pools and the number of golf courses each city/town has. They demand water bans but don't give two sh!ts about the largest consumers of water.

I remember living in the San Diego area during the 70s' and the water bans...we had to put a gallon jug in our toilet tanks to save a gallon per flush except...we had to flush TWICE to get everything to go down. So much for saving water.

Largest consumer of water in CA is agriculture.

 

[Roadglide]

There are a number of reasons I'd never move back West. Shitty and completely unsustainable water policy is just one of them.

It makes no sense at all to me why we persist in putting massive population centers in deserts. It's not going to work, long-term; it only works short-term because we all pay an insane amount of money to make it work. Senseless. It's eventually one of the Big Huge Issues that's going to drag the entire country down.

People laugh at me whenever the topic of moving to wherever comes up and I say move where the water is.

 

[Dadstoys]

ERmagod we're running out of water ,BAN,BAN, BAN. .let your yard go to shit, don't dare wash your car, F*ck your garden.
What's that Mr. developer,? You want to build another 40 house development ? SURE ! Just park that wheelbarrow full of money right over there.
F*ck your ban.

 

[TLB]

I went to college in a western state, and took a course on the history of US water policy. It was the most frightening material I've ever learned.

Abby wrote a number of the readings, though I don't remember that one. Maybe? It was a long time ago now.

The Ogallala Reservoir isn't recharging either.

Much like our governments fiscal policy, there is never much long term planning except for stuff that doesn't really matter and is part of a massive grift, like the green energy policy/climate scheme.

 

[rogersmithiii]

Something doesn't add up. If there are intense water shortages, how can you build more housing, and put more pressure on the water supply?

 

[Broc Tuah]

What is the penalty if you just do what you want?

You get your balls back from the town's purse.

 

[GaryO]

They refer to it as a " fee", so you can't get a write off.

This is absolutely full retard to me. Rutland, the town next to me started charging this right before I left.....I don't even understand the retard in taxing people for water that runs off their property. Your already taxing them for the buildings on their property!! Now your charging for water that runs off them? WHAT??

 

[VTski4x4]

Something doesn't add up. If there are intense water shortages, how can you build more housing, and put more pressure on the water supply?

Racist!!!!!