Stag Arms Feds seize 3,000 guns from N. Britain gunmaker

jeez, IF an inspector found something I manufactured to be in violation, I would be bringing those parts into compliance 15 minutes after he had left the door! What does it really take to stamp a serial number into a piece of metal? A costly way to learn to follow the rules???
 
The 3,000 gun parts represent about a week's worth of production for Stag, which makes about 12,000 receivers per month.
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I wonder if that 12K number is an average and if it's accurate for a few years. If so, that would mean they have produced quite a few firearms since they started in (1.73 million), more than I thought.
 
I know someone who used to work for SIG in IT. The ATF has so much access to a gun manufacturer you won't believe it. The ATF can literally track where a firearm is in the manufacturing process at SIG in real time. That is the extent of control and access the ATF has.

When the system is working. The system the ATF uses is still running on XP or some ancient OS like that. So sometimes the system goes down lol.
 
[h=1]Feds seize 3,000 guns from N. Britain gunmaker[/h]
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assault rifle parts
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a large cache of receivers
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unauthorized trafficking of guns
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in the wake of the Sandy Hook shooting
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unserialized guns
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Whew, the author hit all the buzz words in this article. It also included a nice mixture of "receivers" and "guns", as if they're synonymous.

Now, if you had the time and patience to read the entire article, you'll find that it ends with:

Nothing in the ATF or U.S. Attorney court filings indicated any evidence was found of illegal gun sales, although neither agency would discuss that allegation with Hartford Business Journal.
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sounds like a witch hunt.....

"Stag Arms is owned by Mark Malkowski, who was a vocal advocate for the gunmaking industry when the state legislature and Gov. Dannel P. Malloy sought to pass tougher gun control laws in the wake of the Sandy Hook shooting."
 
So what is the procedure for a QC rejected receiver? Must it be immediately cut-up or serialized first and then cut-up, or something else?
 
ToddDubya said:
Whew, the author hit all the buzz words in this article. It also included a nice mixture of "receivers" and "guns", as if they're synonymous.

Now, if you had the time and patience to read the entire article, you'll find that it ends with:
Nothing in the ATF or U.S. Attorney court filings indicated any evidence was found of illegal gun sales, although neither agency would discuss that allegation with Hartford Business Journal.
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robjax said:
sounds like a witch hunt.....

"Stag Arms is owned by Mark Malkowski, who was a vocal advocate for the gunmaking industry when the state legislature and Gov. Dannel P. Malloy sought to pass tougher gun control laws in the wake of the Sandy Hook shooting."
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This & this. The whole thing stinks.
 
so wait, I am a little confused... I thought that until a reciver was SOLD it did not have to have a SN attached to it. That is why a homebuilt 80% one dos not require it. I am guessing that there is a differnt rule for manufactoring FFL's then for civilians but still? As long as it never leaves the factory floor I dont see how its illegal (After all cant a case be made that actualy putting the SN on on reciver makes it sellable, hence makes it 'manufactored' Before that it is just a hunk of metal to the company that milled it because it cant be used for anything (legaly at least)
 
During the August inspection, there was some confusion between the two Malkowskis on whether the guns that were eventually seized were manufactured by Stag or CMT, although they did bear the Stag stamp, just not the serial number.
In her affidavit on the search warrant application to seize the unserialized guns, Lambert, the ATF agent, said she also wanted to search for evidence that Stag and/or CMT was illegally selling guns. This potential evidence included surveillance videos and photos, personnel records showing attendance logs, production records, computers, and other electronic media.
Lambert said Stag and CMT have a history of violations, and she suspected the companies were engaging in ongoing illegal activity. She did not mention what the previous violations were.
Nothing in the ATF or U.S. Attorney court filings indicated any evidence was found of illegal gun sales, although neither agency would discuss that allegation with Hartford Business Journal.
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Right. The FIRST thing I would do, as a firearm manufacturer intending to sell unserialized receivers on the black market, is stamp them with my corporate logo.

They may be guilty of failing to follow procedure, but they weren't trying to build a "cache" of guns to sell in Mexico. That's the .gov's turf.
 
I'm going to go out on a limb here and suggest that the receivers were "in process". The roll marks and serials would be put on in the raw prior to finishing.

So either the company WAS running a batch of un-traceables, or there is a pissing match going on over timing of operations.
 
Boris said:
I bet local CT commies made those calls to ATF asking to investigate. Stag needs to gtfo that commie shithole.
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This. Statist Commie setup to paint gun manufacturers as bad guys, implying that all who associate with guns are criminal.
 
I guess I don't understand the story.

If the parts were inside the Stag building, wouldn't they be considered WIP (work in process)?

WIP material is typically not sold unless it was a spare part.

Sounds like a witch hunt to me.
 
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Right. The FIRST thing I would do, as a firearm manufacturer intending to sell unserialized receivers on the black market, is stamp them with my corporate logo.
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So true. This was a bullshit charge-raid by the ATF. Just for this I'm going to acquire another Stag for lefties. They're really solid MSRs.
 
I'd like to say I feel sorry for them, because we all know it's bullshit based solely on the fact that their ****ing logo was already on them, but fact is I have zero sympathy for gun manufacturers who operate under special exemptions within states that they aren't even ****ing allowed to sell their product in. Why they stayed in CT and thought this wouldn't eventually happen is beyond me.
 
I wonder if this 7 day thing is real or not.
Seems to be what they are hanging their hat on.
No serial number within 7 days equals gun running somehow [rolleyes]
And like Xtry said , they should have gotten the fudge out of dodge.
Think your going to stand up to a commie dictator and then run a business in his state? [rofl]
The phone call to Oblammy went out right afterward. They're just getting around to dropping the hammer now.
 
Just curious Xtry51, could the same be said for Smith & Wesson making standard capacity magazines in a state where standard capacity mags made after 9/1994 are illegal?
 

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