Squib load at the range today

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Squib Load at the range today
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Was shooting the Colt 1911 for a while but I think it needs some breaking in. Many times the slide would not go into battery. I suspect either rough edges on the feed ramp or (more likely) rough corners on the barrel lugs and slide lugs. I believe these rough corners are preventing the barrel from locking into the slide properly.

That is a side issue.

I was shooting the Springfield 1911 and instead of a bang, I got a "click".

What I SHOULD have done was stop shooting right away, remove the magazine, clear the round and inspect the barrel.

Instead, I thought it was a bad primer, so I racked the slide, saw "somethign" eject, let the next round go forward and prepared to fire*.

But the slide had not returned to battery. I frowned because this is what the Colt was doing. I started wondering WTF was up with my loads and I racked the slide, ejecting THAT round, and let the slide strip the next round into the chamber. I prepared to fire.

But the slide had not returned to battery.

Okay. What is going on here? I looked down into the ejection port as I racked that round OUT, and watched the next round try to chamber. It was not going all the way in. I tried to peer into the rear of the barrel looking for light ( this is an outdoor range, Markham Park FL ) and there was nothing in the barrel but darkneess.

I called the RO over and tole him what I thought: I think I have a squib in the barrel, I would like to disassemble this pistol. He gave me the go-ahead to go over to another bench (they are very strict at Markham, and you have to ask permission before you can do anything there).

I stripped the 1911 and sure enough, the barrel was plugged near the rear. I realized that if the round had travelled about a quarter inch further into the barrel, I would have been able to chamber the next round and would have shot it.

We got a rod and a hammer and easily pounded the jacketed round back out the back. There was no powder burn around the rear of that round, I strongly believe it was a primer-only round, not a low primer round. This batch was made with my Lee before I got my Dillon.

After that, the 1911 shot fine after being reassembled. But man, what a close call.

Reminder to all of us: if you hear ANYTHING out of the ordinary, don't assume you know what happened. STOP what you are doing, call someone over for help, and inspect the firearm before proceeding. Even if it's only a slightly different hiccup, stop. Think. Check.

Things could have been much much worse: my Springfield could have been ruined, or I could have injured my hand, eyes, or worse.

Now to work on that Colt...


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Always be sure and cautious, never take anything for granted with weapons. Good post to remind us all of our safety and keep everyone here unharmed.
 
Actully I have one question for you:

If you thought it was just a bad primer why didn't you immidiatly retreave the "live round" for proper disposal (ie: a Dud Bucket)?

I get bad primers all the time with .22 rounds, but when the gun doesn't go bang, I always set the dud aside after every missfire.

Just curious, and don't take me as scolding...Just seems it was a bit diffent from how I do thing.

-Weer'd Beard
 
I've had a squib before. Same thing. Pulled the trigger and heard "pouf" instead of Bang.

So, I tried to see if I could see any light coming into the chamber. Nope.

I turned the barrel bushing. My hand slipped, the recoil spring cap shot down range never to be seen again.

But, I went over to see one of the Black powder guys to borrow their rod to pound it out.

But, the day of shooting that pistol was over because I couldn't find the cap.
 
There's a very good reason that these things are covered in the most basic courses. If you screw up you can do a heck of a lot of damage to yourself, your gun, and anyone standing nearby.

From Home Firearm Safety or any of the 6 NRA basic shooting courses:

If ever attempt to fire and get either a click or a pop (ass opposed to the normal bang), (1) point the firearm in a safe direction and wait 30 seconds (longer for muzzle loaders), (2) open the action, (3) insepct the bore for obstructions and if necessary (4) clear before resuming fire.

Pressure is what puts the bullet where you want it; overpressure puts pieces of hot metal (some of which used to be part of you gun) places you definitely don't want them.

Ken
 
Thanks for sharing your experience. I'm glad that you are okay. It's does us all well to reflect upon the basics of gun handling andgun safety from time to time. Things can and will go wrong.

All the best,

Mark
 
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