Socialist Pro-Gun (almost) Presidential Candidate?

[Knuckle Dragger]

I thought this was interesting. Brian Moore - Socialist nominee for President is actually pretty pro-gun compared to either Democratic candidate.

http://www.ontheissues.org/2008/Brian_Moore_Gun_Control.htm

Right to bear arms needed for oppressed people​

Many workers have died at the hands of the local police, the Army and privately hired goons. Workers and citizens will most likely need access to guns for defense, since the wealthy and corporate power can be counted on to use all manner of violence to prevent any radical or revolutionary change that would mean their overthrow or loss of power & control. Socialists believe in the inalienable right of exploited & oppressed people to self-defense, thus, we support the right of all citizens to bear arm
Source: E-mail interview with OnTheIssues.org Apr 3, 2008

Restrict sales; require licensing; strengthen enforcement
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Moore indicates he supports the following principles regarding guns:
* Reauthorize the ban on the sale or transfer of semi-automatic guns, except those used for hunting.
* Maintain and strengthen the current level of enforcement of existing federal restrictions on the purchase and possession of guns.
* Allow citizens to carry concealed guns.
* Require background checks on gun sales between private citizens at gun shows.
* Require a license for gun possession.

 

[Fsorrent]

I thought this was interesting. Brian Moore - Socialist nominee for President is actually pretty pro-gun compared to either Democratic candidate.

http://www.ontheissues.org/2008/Brian_Moore_Gun_Control.htm

What a tard...how can you in one sentence be want to ban semi-automatic guns, while supporting concealed carry? I certainly can't fit a musket in my pants, and don't ask me how I know.

 

[calsdad]

The guy is either lying - or like Fstorrent said: he is a retard.

First he says "the workers" must be allowed to defend themselves against the man. Then he goes on to say he wants to bring back the ban on semi-auto's - except those used for hunting.

What are the people going to defend themselves with against the police, Army, and hired goons? Who will have battle rifles, carbines, and full auto?

.22's and bolt action hunting rifles? Sounds to me like what he is really trying to do is the same things socialists have always tried to do - get all the workers killed off.

 

[BOBKATT]

What are the people going to defend themselves with against the police, Army, and hired goons? Who will have battle rifles, carbines, and full auto?

.22's and bolt action hunting rifles? Sounds to me like what he is really trying to do is the same things socialists have always tried to do - get all the workers killed off.

Yeah, I don't know. This doesn't sound good to me, sounds like Barrack Obama. Oh ya, that's right Barrack Obama is a socialist.

If the 2A is in place to protect the people from a government of tyranny, than any person who votes for a politician(Barrack Obama) who tries to ban the weapons "Assault Weapons" ban) of the people necessary to fight back(for example, at the bare minimum SEMI AUTOMATIC RIFLES) is asking for a government of tyranny.

 

[Fsorrent]

Unfortunately there are people out there that would love a government to do everything for htem. These are the same people that only want the police and military to have guns. We call them liberals, but they are in essence "fascist's" if you take a good look at the definition of fascism and modern day liberalism they are quite similar. Hence, why liberalism is a mental disease, because they haven't learned anything from the past instead are too eager to try and repeat it. Socialist, Fascist, Liberal's....same toilet, different pieces of shit.

 

[pdm]

Today's "progressives" are the ideological children of the fascists of the 30s and 40s.

 

[Fsorrent]

Today's "progressives" are the ideological children of the fascists of the 30s and 40s.

Is that what they are calling themselves these days? Aren't the "progressive's" the one's who have initiated the prohibition? Along with other disastrous ideas?

 

[sig shooter]

i dont know about you guys but i dont even consider that anywhere near pro-gun!!!, sounds like hitlers plan when he came to power and the ccw execpection is just to lull people into thinking this guy "isnt so bad".

 

[mark056]

I dunno....it seems to me that while his thinking is a little fuzzy on the RKBA issue, he is pointed in the right direction. The fact that he is a Socialist immediately scares away a lot of folks or he is immediately suspect. He may have another agenda, but then again, maybe not, maybe he just needs a little more education on the subject.

RKBA is a civil rights issue which transcends political parties and political philosophies. It does not belong exclusively to the Republican Party or to those who style themselves as conservatives. This is why a guy like Chuck Heston could march with King in the 1960's and stand shoulder to shoulder with Wayne LaPierre in the 1990's and early 21st Century.

The other day I got one of those survey packets from the NRA. It was about the three leading presidential candidates. One thing that the letter in the packet said, I found quite interesting: It stated that 1/3 of NRA members were Republican, 1/3 Democrat and 1/3 independent. That in and of itself should be food for thought for those who wrap the RKBA around other political causes.

I'll stand shoulder to shoulder with anyone who supports the 2A, just don't expect me to stand shoulder to shoulder with you on other issues like Creationism or anti-abortion, for example.

The Second Amendment protects the Bill of Rights and ultimately our civil rights!

Mark L.

 

[Yelena]

I thought this was interesting. Brian Moore - Socialist nominee for President is actually pretty pro-gun compared to either Democratic candidate.

http://www.ontheissues.org/2008/Brian_Moore_Gun_Control.htm

Well, well, well.
For those who are not so familiar with Socialists.
They say: "Citizens should have right to carry concealed weapons", at the same time they want to re-authorize bans on semi-auto guns and "restrict sales, require licensing, strenchten enforcement"... Do you know what this really mean? That means you will NEVER, yes, NEVER be allowed not only to CCW, but to simple own a gun for whatever reason, unless you are poor, disanvantaged, oppressed, minority, etc. And this is pretty easy to understand that poor Americans who lament that they are poor because they are disadvantaged, oppressed, minority, etc, are nothing but losers who don't want to do anything to improve their lives. They simply sit and wait until they are allowed to attack hard-working poeple and take whatever belongs to them. Those are the guys Socialists want to arm. That happened once in Russia about 70 years ago.

 

[Raoul Duke]

I dunno....it seems to me that while his thinking is a little fuzzy on the RKBA issue, he is pointed in the right direction.....
......with you on other issues like Creationism or anti-abortion, for example.

The Second Amendment protects the Bill of Rights and ultimately our civil rights!

Mark L.

Well said!

+1 for you.

 

[mark056]

Post deleted.Mark L.

 

[EddieCoyle]

Well, well, well.
For those who are not so familiar with Socialists.
They say: "Citizens should have right to carry concealed weapons", at the same time they want to re-authorize bans on semi-auto guns and "restrict sales, require licensing, strenchten enforcement"... Do you know what this really mean? That means you will NEVER, yes, NEVER be allowed not only to CCW, but to simple own a gun for whatever reason, unless you are poor, disanvantaged, oppressed, minority, etc. And this is pretty easy to understand that poor Americans who lament that they are poor because they are disadvantaged, oppressed, minority, etc, are nothing but losers who don't want to do anything to improve their lives. They simply sit and wait until they are allowed to attack hard-working poeple and take whatever belongs to them. Those are the guys Socialists want to arm. That happened once in Russia about 70 years ago.

Well said.

 

[fubar]

Sounds like Obama. " Packing a sixgun to hunt ducks. "

I respect the 2nd amendment's protection of sportsmen who want to own a gun .... but we need to let places with higher crime rates do whatever the hell they want to in regard to disarming the population and furthering the dependancy of the masses on the government teat.

You redneck cousin kissers out there in bible land can keep your shotguns ... for now.

 

[Fsorrent]

Sounds like Obama. " Packing a sixgun to hunt ducks. "

I respect the 2nd amendment's protection of sportsmen who want to own a gun .... but we need to let places with higher crime rates do whatever the hell they want to in regard to disarming the population and furthering the dependancy of the masses on the government teat.

You redneck cousin kissers out there in bible land can keep your shotguns ... for now.

Yup, that just about sums up Obama's 2nd amendment stance lol

 

[Ray-500]

Today's "progressives" are the ideological children of the fascists of the 30s and 40s.

Very, very, very true. (unfortunately) The main object is control of every facet of your life. Yes, you can be "free"....within certain guidelines of course. Yes you can own your own home and property, and dutifully pay taxes on same...but you may not be able to really use it the way you want because you might be endangering the pink and purple spotted, grass dwelling, leaf suckers. They must be protected after all. What a load of crap! With all the discussion of the 2nd amendment, and "hunting rights", and "sport shooting rights", and "target shooting rights", ......where is the original intent of the amendment? Where, anywhere, in the Declaration or the US Constitution, is there a mention of hunting, or sport shooting? Did the drafters of the 2nd Amendment really have hunting and sport shooting in mind? I think not!! Yet that is the basis of almost all discussion today as it relates to the amendment. Its a "red herring" and deflection. To listen to the drivel, one would think the whole purpose of the Amendment was so people could hunt to put food on the table. Bull!! Without arms, people are prey to anyone, everyone and everything....especially their "government" ...in whatever form. Check out world history for six or seven hundred years and the lesson should be clear. That is what our founders had in mind...and the reason for the amendment in the first place...to give every single individual the right to defend themselves against any and all....and...collectively....as a nation....to defend against any threat. Just where does the current talk of hunting and sport shooting fit into that picture?