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So I have asked Deval Patrick what he thinks about lifting the Sunday hunting ban

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JellyFish

I sent an email to him today asking where he stands on removing the ban on Sunday hunting as it discriminates against working class hunters.

I'll let you guys know if/when I get a response. I'm not holding my breath for a positive response but you never know... [rolleyes] [laugh]
 
I know, I know. I'm trying to make lemonade out of a lemon. With the poodle's campaign in its death throes, I'd like to at least see our "future governor" be aware of the issue.

I know. I'm pathetic. LOL
 
By the way, Derek, when did that sunday hunting ban originate? What drove it to be put in place in the first place?
 
the sunday hunting ban prob. stems back to puritan times. when sunday was a sacred day. not a day of going to the packie and watching the pats win another superbowl. if we can have booze and shopping now, why not hunting? makes no sense.
 
What makes you think he won't move to ban all hunting with bullets or "pointy" objects?

That would also solve your problem aobut Sunday hunting, wouldn't it? [rolleyes] [pot]
 
Deval is not against the working class. He needs them for the redistribution of wealth to the non-working class.
 
Well I have been doing some research on this and it seems that GOAL tried to get a bill through but it got killed. Ugh.

What an idiotic law. I can't believe it's still on the books.
 
I miss Sundays.

A couple years ago it was Memorial or Labor Day, and everything was closed and people had all gone away or were home or whatever. The streets were quiet, and most things were closed.

Anybody else miss those quiet Sundays when there were no trucks, no stores open, nothing? Our mother used to send my brother and I out for gas and milk on Saturday night because everything was closed. It usually took us about 2 hours to accomplish this task of course.

Sundays used to involve a little (too much at the time) church, eat dinner with the family, and then either fish, ride bikes or play ball.

I still try to make it a point to not shop on a Sunday and to try to go out for a Sunday drive.

Anyone else?




That said, I think they should allow markets to sell beer and wine.
 
Coyote33 said:
That said, I think they should allow markets to sell beer and wine.
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That said... I think a law banning anything of the sort on "Sunday" is wrong. And as much as the left hates religion, I'm surprised that they haven't opened everything to Sundays.
 
Shoot when I first started working retail here the stores couldn't open before noon and with permission from the police chief. Definately miss those days.[laugh]
 
As populated as Massachusetts is, I seriously doubt that hunting will ever be allowed on Sunday. People need at least one day a week during hunting season to be able to go out and walk in the woods, walk their dogs, ride their horses ect. without being in the line of fire of hunters.

Better to pursue the repeal of the illegality of suppressors, it would at least benefit those who live near ranges. Hey....I can dream can't I ?
 
That's bullshit! In the line of fire? What the hell kind of remark is that? [rolleyes]

That's just an outrageous and deceptive thing to say. You make it sound like hunters are targeting non-hunters and gunning them down.

Shame on you for playing to the antis with that remark. [angry]

Finalygotabeltfed said:
As populated as Massachusetts is, I seriously doubt that hunting will ever be allowed on Sunday. People need at least one day a week during hunting season to be able to go out and walk in the woods, walk their dogs, ride their horses ect. without being in the line of fire of hunters.

Better to pursue the repeal of the illegality of suppressors, it would at least benefit those who live near ranges. Hey....I can dream can't I ?
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Finalygotabeltfed said:
As populated as Massachusetts is, I seriously doubt that hunting will ever be allowed on Sunday. People need at least one day a week during hunting season to be able to go out and walk in the woods, walk their dogs, ride their horses ect. without being in the line of fire of hunters.

Better to pursue the repeal of the illegality of suppressors, it would at least benefit those who live near ranges. Hey....I can dream can't I ?
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What? I didn't know hunting was allowed in city and state parks... Am I missing something? I thought it was only allowed in WMA's??????? [thinking]
 
No hunting on Sundays in MA?! Boy that's stupid. It reminds me of those stupid blue laws that kept everything closed on Sunday. Tough to work weekdays and get all your other stuff done on one (Satur)day.
 
JellyFish said:
That's bullshit! In the line of fire? What the hell kind of remark is that? [rolleyes]

That's just an outrageous and deceptive thing to say. You make it sound like hunters are targeting non-hunters and gunning them down.

Shame on you for playing to the antis with that remark. [angry]
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WOW! Talk about literal interpretations! Ok let me rephrase it....."potentially crossing the path of or line of fire of hunters.....there, better now?

Like it or not, its doubtful that you'll ever see hunting on Sunday in Massachusetts in your lifetime. Matter of fact, at the current rate of development of this state, the next few generations are going to be hard pressed to find a decent place to hunt at all. Thats the reality of it all.

Everytime money becomes available (low interest mortgage loans), more and more houses or large scale developments go up on available properties. People in many suburbs are subdividing lots and shoe horning houses into every available building lot, many with zoning and lot size variances. They are building on ledge, having to blast foundation holes into solid rock....thats how desparate they are to build. People in rural areas are selling off large tracts to developers who are building multi unit condo buildings, golf courses or commercial properties because the property taxes are putting them under.

Unfortunately hunting is not a top priority to most people when it comes to making money. They want the big bucks and they want it now, not money trickling in from hunting leases.

Hunting brings very little revenue in compared to property taxes which are a permanent source of revenue for both cities and towns and the state. A piece of property with buildings on it is taxed at a greater rate than open undeveloped land. The land banks that buy open space usually immediately post it so that it can't be hunted.

Hunters are a diminishing group and are not high on the popularity list of many people in Massachusetts. They think killing "bambi" or other animals is wrong. Have you noticed how much more posted lands there are in Mass now than years ago? I do and I've hunted Mass off and on for forty plus years. I used to drive out Rt 2 and walk off the side of the road and be in the middle of nowhere. Now, you can't walk a quarter mile in most of the state without ending up in someone's backyard or driveway. Unfortunately the suburbs of Boston, Worcester and Springfield have converged on eachother. The squeeze is on and getting worse every year.

I know thats not what you want to hear but its the truth, I've witnessed it first hand for the better part of my life.

People will have a day a week without hunting in Mass, come hell or high water....we hunters are exponentially out numbered and we don't bring enough revenue in to the state or cities and town to make a hill of beans difference in their bottom line. Get used to it, get over it, or go to Vermont like many of us do you can hunt on Sunday there.
 
Finalygotabeltfed said:
People will have a day a week without hunting in Mass, come hell or high water....we hunters are exponentially out numbered and we don't bring enough revenue in to the state or cities and town to make a hill of beans difference in their bottom line. Get used to it, get over it, or go to Vermont like many of us do you can hunt on Sunday there.
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People have most of the year without hunting in Mass. I agree with the
remainder of the quote. I don't think that any of the Northern States
(VT, NH, ME) restrict hunting on Sundays. Do as I and other people do, don't buy
a MA license and deny the PRM the revenues AND the opportunity to take
advantage of a paying wildlife conservation force. The CoM is overrun with
critters now and it is only going to get a lot worse in the future with all the
problems associated with a wildlife population out of control. I love it!

TBP
 
I agree. I don't think I'll be buying another hunting license here. F*ck this place.

The Boston Patriot said:
People have most of the year without hunting in Mass. I agree with the
remainder of the quote. I don't think that any of the Northern States
(VT, NH, ME) restrict hunting on Sundays. Do as I and other people do, don't buy
a MA license and deny the PRM the revenues AND the opportunity to take
advantage of a paying wildlife conservation force. The CoM is overrun with
critters now and it is only going to get a lot worse in the future with all the
problems associated with a wildlife population out of control. I love it!

TBP
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The Boston Patriot said:
People have most of the year without hunting in Mass. I agree with the
remainder of the quote. I don't think that any of the Northern States
(VT, NH, ME) restrict hunting on Sundays. Do as I and other people do, don't buy
a MA license and deny the PRM the revenues AND the opportunity to take
advantage of a paying wildlife conservation force. The CoM is overrun with
critters now and it is only going to get a lot worse in the future with all the
problems associated with a wildlife population out of control. I love it!

TBP
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Hunting seasons run throughout the year for different species, its not just big game season that is at the root of the controversy of Sunday hunting.

Sunday hunting is prohibited in Maine for sure, I've hunted there for the past six seasons. Its also prohibited in New Hampshire(unless they have changed the law in the last year.)

Vermont is the only one that allows hunting on Sunday.
 
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There have been plenty of land owners who have stated that they will close off their properties and farms to hunting totally if the Sunday hunting ban is lifted.

If the WMA and town forests get closed the only places left will be on private property. If the land owners shut down their farms and fields then there will be no place to hunt at all in MA.
 
sdavid said:
There have been plenty of land owners who have stated that they will close off their properties and farms to hunting totally if the Sunday hunting ban is lifted.

If the WMA and town forests get closed the only places left will be on private property. If the land owners shut down their farms and fields then there will be no place to hunt at all in MA.
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True. Then the state or municipalities will have to pay another level of bureacracy to cull the herds/ flocks ect. Its a balancing act. I can live without hunting on Sundays but it does put some people at a disadvantage.
Unfortunately, those who are disadvantaged don't count for much in the big scheme of things.
 
Sorry. I'm just frustrated and pissed off now. [angry]

We can't seem to make any progress in fixing anything as far as our rights go. things just seem to go from bad to worse.

I'm feeling like I just want to flee across the border to NH but I am not sure where to go and finding a good apartment at a reasonable rental price is not easy or quick.

So I am frustrated and irritated. Plus I didn't get enough sleep last night so I've been discombobulated all day.

Oh...and by the way...small body???? Where do you get off you dego bastard!!!!! You want to throw down with me? I'll kick your ass!!! Bring it wop boy!!! [wink] [rofl]


derek said:
So much anger for such a small body. [smile]
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