Slide fire solutions group buy?

[Terminator03]

I missed out on the SFS group buy that happened on here, and was wondering if there will be another one, or enough interest for another. I just saw they have a new design that looks more like a traditional collapsible M4 type stock, it would appeal to more people. After watching the videos, I'm convinced that I "need" to have one of these for my M&P 15-22!

 

[Romokid]

Unfortunately they won't work on a .22 lr as it would be a lot cheaper blowing through .22 than .223.

 

[Terminator03]

Unfortunately they won't work on a .22 lr as it would be a lot cheaper blowing through .22 than .223.

They do work very well on the M&P 15-22, as there are several videos on youtube, as well as discussions on ARF.com about it. You do have to trim the part near the trigger gaurd, just a bit to clear the curved trigger guard on the M&P, but that's not a big deal. I think this would be way fun to play with using cheap .22 ammo as you mentioned, which is why I want it for my M&P.

 

[TRicker]

absolutely!! I NEED ONE.

 

[Rate_of_Twist]

Unfortunately they won't work on a .22 lr as it would be a lot cheaper blowing through .22 than .223.

They work great on a .22! M&P 15-22 no issues. I would suspect if you had a .22 dedicated upper and a good trigger they would work fine on a regular AR as well

 

[MotorHead]

Can a Slide Fire Solutions be installed on post ban Bushmaster AR-15 with M4 fixed stock?

 

[JoeT]

Can a Slide Fire Solutions be installed on post ban Bushmaster AR-15 with M4 fixed stock?

The slidefire stock would replace the M4 fixed stock.

 

[Terminator03]

Now I feel dumb for starting this thread, because I scored a deal on a lightly used one this morning, but maybe it will help those who still want one of these. I feel they are way overpriced for a piece of molded plastic, but there is no other way to get the FA feel without blowing $10k-$20k these days, and having paperwork, so I guess in that light it's a steal.

 

[Romokid]

Damn, I passed on a used one at a decent price because I heard they didn't work on .22lr. I have a dedicated upper which is why I was thinking about it, but then heard that .22lr didn't have enough recoil for it to function properly. I have JP trigger springs for my dedicated .22lr AR but I have not needed to use them as the stock ones have worked fine, but now I might switch them over and try to locate another SFS stock.
Thanks guys, you learn something new every day.

They work great on a .22! M&P 15-22 no issues. I would suspect if you had a .22 dedicated upper and a good trigger they would work fine on a regular AR as well

 

[glide]

Here's one for $312, which I think was close to the GB price

http://www.slickguns.com/product/sl...-rifle-stock-kit-36997-or-33297-free-shipping

 

[Romokid]

Thanks for the link, but it doesn't look like they will ship a stock to MA.

WARNING: Assault Rifle Parts cannot be shipped to CA; Chicago, IL; New York City; NJ; D.C.; MA; Canada or Puerto Rico. Please check your State, County and City laws for restrictions before ordering Assault Rifle Parts.

 

[glockstar]

So I guess are these MA legal would be my first question and if so who has used one? Are they reliable, worth the money, and easy to use? or is there some little trick that takes some time getting used to before you can shoot with it reliably every time?

 

[Terminator03]

So I guess are these MA legal would be my first question and if so who has used one? Are they reliable, worth the money, and easy to use? or is there some little trick that takes some time getting used to before you can shoot with it reliably every time?

Good questions. You are actually in my neck of the woods (I'm in Feeding Hills). If no one ends up answering the questions you have, I should be able to very soon, because I plan to set it up on my new M&P. Hopefully someone will answer the question regarding the legality, but I can't see why it wouldn't be MA legal since it is not a collapsible stock, which we all know are super killy bad accessories.

 

[Parker Duofold]

Here's one for $312, which I think was close to the GB price

http://www.slickguns.com/product/sl...-rifle-stock-kit-36997-or-33297-free-shipping

Hmmm...if you follow the link to "The Sportsman's Guide" website, the retail price is now listed at $369.97 and not $349.97

 

[glide]

So I guess are these MA legal would be my first question and if so who has used one? Are they reliable, worth the money, and easy to use? or is there some little trick that takes some time getting used to before you can shoot with it reliably every time?

1.) Maybe (definitely with a pre-ban lower).
2.) Me
3.) Yes
4.) Yes
5.) Yes

 

[glockstar]

1.) Maybe (definitely with a pre-ban lower).
2.) Me
3.) Yes
4.) Yes
5.) Yes

Well if that's the case then even at 400.00 a piece I thnk it could be a good investment! at least a hell of alot of fun to have!! I woulndt think a preban lower would be needed for legality of this, as was stated its not collapsable.

 

[EddieCoyle]

It's all fun and games until the ATF changes its mind.

 

[Bill Katt]

It's all fun and games until the ATF changes its mind.

 

[glide]

Well if that's the case then even at 400.00 a piece I thnk it could be a good investment! at least a hell of alot of fun to have!! I woulndt think a preban lower would be needed for legality of this, as was stated its not collapsable.

A pre-ban lower may not be necessary, but I put mine on one just to be safe.

It's worth $400 when you consider the alternative is ~$14,000.

But as others have said; there is always to possibility the ATF will change their minds.

 

[RIFLEMAN1000]

Remember what the BATF did to the Akins Accelerator ,first it was legal then poof not legal and you had to turn them all in . I would buy one only if i could buy one for cash at a gun show but even then if they make them illegal going to jail doesn't seem like a good idea or much fun.

 

[glockstar]

I always thought iif they banned something and you were already in possesion of it then you would be grandfathered in and still keep legal possesion? obviously not the case.

 

[C-pher]

Remember what the BATF did to the Akins Accelerator ,first it was legal then poof not legal and you had to turn them all in . I would buy one only if i could buy one for cash at a gun show but even then if they make them illegal going to jail doesn't seem like a good idea or much fun.

The difference between the two stocks is the Akins used an extra spring to get the end result. The Slide Fire does not...no extra parts. In Theory if the ATF wanted to change it's mind on this stock, it would need to ban Pants with Belt loops as this is all that does...minus the pants.

Here's a pretty good video that shows how it works.

 

[Terminator03]

I always thought iif they banned something and you were already in possesion of it then you would be grandfathered in and still keep legal possesion? obviously not the case.

I was under that impression as well. I also think that since these are not a registered, regulated, or serial numbered part, they would have a nearly impossible time tracking them - especially once they trickle into the secondary market. I suppose they could subpoena sales records from the manufacturer, then distributors, but good luck with tracking cash sales at gun shows, private resales, etc.

 

[glide]

I always thought iif they banned something and you were already in possesion of it then you would be grandfathered in and still keep legal possesion? obviously not the case.

Nope. There is usually an amnesty period in which they allow you to turn in the item. Once that period is over, if you get caught with it you go to Federal PMITA prison.

 

[glockstar]

Do they have to compensate you? I mean if im spending my money on something they ok'd to begin with, then change their mind and say " oh no these are now illegal and we want them" Shouldnt by right they have to compensate me for their inability to make up their mind and stick with it?

 

[glide]

Do they have to compensate you? I mean if im spending my money on something they ok'd to begin with, then change their mind and say " oh no these are now illegal and we want them" Shouldnt by right they have to compensate me for their inability to make up their mind and stick with it?

No they do not compensate you. Should they? Yes. Should they even be allowed to take away your lawfully owned property in the first place? No.

But your alternative is prison.

 

[RIFLEMAN1000]

The difference between the two stocks is the Akins used an extra spring to get the end result. The Slide Fire does not...no extra parts. In Theory if the ATF wanted to change it's mind on this stock, it would need to ban Pants with Belt loops as this is all that does...minus the pants.

Here's a pretty good video that shows how it works.

I was a aware of how it works with the difference being the spring but originally the ATF stated since no modification to the trigger was needed for the Akins and one pull of the trigger still only fired the gun once they had no problem with it. I wasn't untill Akins started developing one for the AK47 did the ATF change its mind and thought up the recoil spring bullshit. Just WARNING you can't trust the ATF if they want to ban it the will think up a way to do it. Another thing to consider the Akins was over $1000 dollars making it prohibitive to most people , this is $350. I can see the ATF sticking its nose in on this one .

 

[JCat]

Does anyone know the answer regarding whether or not these are considered legal in MA? Would it technically be considered a collapsible stock? What if you had pinned, etc?

 

[C-pher]

Does anyone know the answer regarding whether or not these are considered legal in MA? Would it technically be considered a collapsible stock? What if you had pinned, etc?

But it's not. It doesn't collaspe. It just freely moves...not differnet points to make it either long or short. It's the same size all the time. The Lenght of the stock itself doesn't change.

 

[mike01824]

I'm not sure if this is new or not, but I saw a video of a Slide Fire for an AK.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cozmt5fWghk&list=UU0J4Hp6XTsi5hinmdhpOWAA&index=1&feature=plcp