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Shot a bump stock AR today

The picture is from the conflict between Eritrea and Ethiopia. In Ethiopia ownership of fully automatic firearms is 100% legal. [laugh]

Straying a little off topic, but not completely:

A friend of ours from down South was Ethiopian and married an Eritrean. Living in Eritrea eventually did not work out so well for him. Despite having a PhD and not having a militant bone in his body, he was captured and brutally tortured. Several of us from our church supported his citizenship and if you can believe it, it was not a sure thing for him. If he had been able to arm himself like the lady in the pic, maybe the story would be different...
 
In fairness, the woman pictured probably lives in a country where the STG is illegal for her to posses.

I think the OP has a right to his opinion, and has been offered enough info to decide if he wants to change his opinion. If not, so be it. I'd rather not engage in the eating of our own. That is what the left does.

I have the same opinion of bump stocks as I have about firearms. If you don't like them, that is fine. I respect your opinion. Don't buy one. But don't try to tell me I can't buy one.
I have never wanted a bump stock, but imagine that they can be a lot of fun. I have always kind of thought of them as a gimmick and a waste of ammo, and would never put one on one of my rifles. I would prefer my rifles to be as accurate as possible,

He is the one 'eating our own'. As much as I may be a JBT, he's part of the problem. Then again, I'm not the typical JBT when it comes to guns. I'm good with them, most thugs aren't. I've been drinking whiskey, Irish, of marginal quality. But still.
 
The picture is from the conflict between Eritrea and Ethiopia. In Ethiopia ownership of fully automatic firearms is 100% legal. [laugh]

That is just messed up. Most backward, messed up corner of the planet... but they get gun rights.

He is the one 'eating our own'. As much as I may be a JBT, he's part of the problem. Then again, I'm not the typical JBT when it comes to guns. I'm good with them, most thugs aren't. I've been drinking whiskey, Irish, of marginal quality. But still.

I really wasn't talking about anyone in particular, and I wish more LEO's had your views about not just firearms. You are all right in my book and so are most NES LEO's. But life is waaaay to short for marginal quality Irish whiskey! [laugh]

... For everything else, there's Mastercard.

I keep a " gun card" that is specifically for firearms purchases, just because walking around with a bunch of cash all the time is likely not a good idea. Most of my collection was purchased new. I am not totally opposed to buying a used firearm, but admit that there is something nice about being the first one to put a round down a virgin barrel. I know I get a bit better price paying cash, but I pay off the card when the bill comes in and get rewards.
 
That is just messed up. Most backward, messed up corner of the planet... but they get gun rights.



I really wasn't talking about anyone in particular, and I wish more LEO's had your views about not just firearms. You are all right in my book and so are most NES LEO's. But life is waaaay to short for marginal quality Irish whiskey! [laugh]



I keep a " gun card" that is specifically for firearms purchases, just because walking around with a bunch of cash all the time is likely not a good idea. Most of my collection was purchased new. I am not totally opposed to buying a used firearm, but admit that there is something nice about being the first one to put a round down a virgin barrel. I know I get a bit better price paying cash, but I pay off the card when the bill comes in and get rewards.


Not so random thoughts relative to your post:
1) I agree, new guns are nice.
2) 80% lowers are nice and have no serial number or paperwork.
3) There is no paperwork required for a private sale of a firearm in Georgia.
4) You don't "register" your guns when you move to Georgia.
 
You bore me. Your ignorance bores me.



Real talk why is it so hard for some of you to own up your bs?
why can't you just say "my bad dude, I was blinded by my passion for 2A and my hate for you because I think you insult it so I a)confused you with someone else b) I had no idea what I was talking about c) I thought making an imaginary insult would give my post/point more credibility.
do you think if you do any of that you seem weak? Do you feel the other dudes here will question your sexuality?
its all good. Nothing wrong with owning shit up.
Heres an exemple: "I have changed my mind on certain statements I have made due to lack of knowledge of 2A and bill of rights, I have committed that once I have some free time I will study some articles/books suggested here and educate myself better. I will be shooting a bump stock this Sunday again as long as my ammo order arrives in time"
 
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To me, Ive had them, Ive shot them and shot autos, I just dont have that kind of ammo to waste but if someone wants one, they should be able to get one.
 
1 Vote for a funny cat video with Boots Randolph music when this thread takes a well deserved dirt nap.

[sad2] IBTL
 
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Not so random thoughts relative to your post:
1) I agree, new guns are nice.
2) 80% lowers are nice and have no serial number or paperwork.
3) There is no paperwork required for a private sale of a firearm in Georgia.
4) You don't "register" your guns when you move to Georgia.

Rep point... just... rep point.

Lived in Georgia when I was a kids. It was awesome. Hanging out on the banks of the Chattahoochee. DeKalb county. Took my first deer in Georgia and played high school football for the Peachtree Patriots. And those Georgia Peaches.
My sister still lives there.

And they have awesome gun laws.
 
Rep point... just... rep point.

Lived in Georgia when I was a kids. It was awesome. Hanging out on the banks of the Chattahoochee. DeKalb county. Took my first deer in Georgia and played high school football for the Peachtree Patriots. And those Georgia Peaches.
My sister still lives there.

And they have awesome gun laws.


Went out to dinner last night and we were speaking with another couple we met at the restaurant, (ate at the bar). He's originally from Georgia, lived in NC for a while, now back here, she's from NC. He used to drive up into NJ with his pistol. Why not, he had his GA permit, right? He knows better now.

This came out after his wife told us about him waving an Altoids can at the EZ-Pass for years, and getting away with it. Apparently 15 years ago the technology was more hype than technology.

He frankly didn't think twice about crossing state lines with a pistol - HE HAD A PERMIT.

Whereas I didn't start carrying a pistol until I lived in CT, so I'm used to looking up the laws and being aware of what state I'm in and what laws apply. Totally different mind set.
 
I don't know how I feel about civilians owning full autos.

I'm not reading through 32 pages, but I am curious, did you figure this question out for yourself? It's really the crux of the matter. To what extent should You, and you children or future children, if you have any, be allowed to defend themselves? If the government changed and became unacceptable for whatever reason (and many governments have within the lifetimes of people alive today), should you (and your friends together perhaps) be allowed to defend yourself from anyone who says they represent the government?

You also mention tanks and Apache helicopters. A lot of people feel that as the 2nd amendment is to provide for a well armed militia (a military unit), at a minimum, anything a military trooper is allowed to carry himself should be available to an American citizen (many Swiss and Israeli citizens are in the military and bring their weapons home with them, for perspective). This would not include crew serviced weapons or things that need launch codes or what not, but they should be considered too. It's very reasonable to foresee a possibility of a foreign power financing the purchase of, say, nuclear material for a disgruntled American citizen, and even expertise in fabricating a weapon, if such a thing were legal, so you need to decide how you feel about that too.

But you really need to think a bit and decide about the defend yourself part first.
 
... If the government changed and became unacceptable for whatever reason (and many governments have within the lifetimes of people alive today), should you (and your friends together perhaps) be allowed to defend yourself from anyone who says they represent the government? ...

I'll tackle that one.

Absolutely.

And I can prove it.

Following is an excerpt from a document that had a significant role in the founding of THIS country and cover that EXACT point:

We hold these truths to be self-evident, that all men are created equal, that they are endowed by their Creator with certain unalienable Rights, that among these are Life, Liberty and the pursuit of Happiness. — That to secure these rights, Governments are instituted among Men, deriving their just powers from the consent of the governed, — That whenever any Form of Government becomes destructive of these ends, it is the Right of the People to alter or to abolish it, and to institute new Government, laying its foundation on such principles and organizing its powers in such form, as to them shall seem most likely to effect their Safety and Happiness.

It is not a stretch to understand that the Bill of Rights further elucidate SOME of these unalienable rights...
 
I'll tackle that one.

Absolutely.

And I can prove it.

Following is an excerpt from a document that had a significant role in the founding of THIS country and cover that EXACT point:



It is not a stretch to understand that the Bill of Rights further elucidate SOME of these unalienable rights...

Thanks for stepping up pipes, but the question was specifically directed at Olympus Racing because he's the one with the confusion.
 
Dude, I read your OP, I read quite a few of the posts. You trying to minimize my comparison is asinine. There is absolutely no need to drive anything made by Porsche. Period. End of discussion. They are absolutely nice cars, that's not the point, they are unnecessary.

You came here and purposely started a thread that was absolutely against anything the vast majority of us here feel. You get to reap what you sowed. I've fired fully auto weapons for 17 years now, more than most 'military' guys have. I guess that's why I think the argument against 'fast firing' weapons is so dumb. No one uses it except squad sized units in the military to suppress opposing fire so you can advance or retreat.

There is no such thing as retreat. It is an attack in reverse formation. [grin]

OP, you don't seem like a bad egg, maybe misinformed and have some old socialism to wash off in the shower. You learned a few things from your post, best thing to do now is put out the flames and just walk away, arguing and trying to refute insults from strangers is not worth the effort.

Keep learning and keep shooting.
 
Hey Olympus,
Take all the neg. comments with a grain of salt.

Welcome to America where we all agree to disagree![rofl]

You may have thought NES was just a firearms forum.
Sometimes it turns into the great civil rights/2nd Amendment debate!

Once you understand that infringe means: You can't inhibit or restrict for any reason, by anyone or by any means or at any time.
The treads here get pretty easy to figure out how they are going to end![smile]

It's a nice day. Now go out and take your bike for a ride and all your worries will disappear!![wink]
 
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So... you've flip flopped your position, it would appear...

As is his right. Lots of gun folks have really never considered some of the arguments that the pro 2a crowd make, and why they make them, until presented.

Early on in my NES membership, I made the mistake of suggesting in a survival thread that in the event of a flood emergency, if faced with life or death, I might relieve my anti neighbor of his boat, and bang his wife. The error of my thought process was pointed out, pretty strongly, by Jose and others.
Eventually I agreed that I should really be prepared and buy my own boat.

After much consideration, I decided I really didn't want to spend the money on a boat, so if ever we are hit with a tsunami, my neighbor is still screwed, but his wife got fat. I know full well I am wrong. Especially since I encourage him to keep his boat maintained. [thinking]. But it did cause me to reconsider. [laugh]
 
As is his right. Lots of gun folks have really never considered some of the arguments that the pro 2a crowd make, and why they make them, until presented.
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Yes, and I've reconsidered positions in the past, too. Hopefully that's what happened here...


Good judgment comes from experience.

Experience comes from bad judgment.
 
Hey Olympus,
Take all the neg. comments with a grain of salt.

Welcome to America where we all agree to disagree![rofl]

You may have thought NES was just a firearms forum.
Sometimes it turns into the great civil rights/2nd Amendment debate!

Once you understand that infringed means: You can't inhibit or restrict for any reason, by anyone or by any means or at any time.
The treads here get pretty easy to figure out how they are going to end![smile]

It's a nice day. Now go out and take your bike for a ride and all your worries will disappear!![wink]

Good looks!
certainly got thick skin.
I also don't value fanatics of any kind nor keyboard commandos.
Still smiling and enjoying life.
Cheers

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So... you've flip flopped your position, it would appear...
Let's say if I lived in a free state I'd buy a bump stock myself.
 
Yes, and I've reconsidered positions in the past, too. Hopefully that's what happened here...


Good judgment comes from experience.

Experience comes from bad judgment.

still to many clowns here. But the few good smart peeps make it worth to be green.

The classifieds need some repairing too. Hahaha
 
... I made the mistake of suggesting in a survival thread that in the event of a flood emergency, if faced with life or death, I might relieve my anti neighbor of his boat, and bang his wife. The error of my thought process was pointed out, pretty strongly, by Jose and others.
Eventually I agreed that I should really be prepared and buy my own boat.

After much consideration, I decided I really didn't want to spend the money on a boat, so if ever we are hit with a tsunami, my neighbor is still screwed, but his wife got fat. I know full well I am wrong. Especially since I encourage him to keep his boat maintained. [thinking]. But it did cause me to reconsider. [laugh]

Maybe you should tell him to keep his wife maintained also. ;-)

P.S. Need some before pictures of his wife.
 
Lol, now you just can take the boat, eat the wife, bang the husband..
Always have a plan b.
 
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