OK are you all done? Finally then...I am a Vietnam vet who, believe me, has seen his share of blood and guts both deliberately and "accidentally" and doesn't care to see nor read about anymore. Just because we have a right to bear arms doesn't give us the "right" to be conducting irresponsible experiments that may cause injury or even death, and definitely not conducting them on public/club grounds. Anyone who deliberately chambers and fires a round that has not been tested and approved for any firearm is acting irresponsibly and does not deserve this "right" and is inviting and advertising trouble. The range officer where you shoot would definitely NOT approve, nor would any safety course instructor nor any firearms manufacturer. It is those types of individuals who ruin it for everyone else. So please man-up, and for those who cannot, please tell us where you shoot so we can stay clear of you.