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Sex in the office question

Discussion in 'Off-Topic' started by jkelly1229, May 22, 2019.

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  2. No

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  1. Prepper

    Prepper NES Member

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    Good point. But if not, automatically guilty.
     
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  2. new guy

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    I'll go against the angry mob here and say that I can imagine a scenario where laying him off wouldn't make business sense.

    You can discipline someone for lapses of judgment outside of work hours with no real victim (aside from condom desk dude ) in a way that keeps them around, assuming: (a) the company wants/needs to keep him around; (b) condom desk dude can laugh it off while he Lysols his desk; (c) the chick he banged was totally willing and not also an employee.

    Good employees are expensive to train and sometimes hard to replace. Shitcanning him shouldn't be automatic if (a)-(c) are correct.
     
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  3. PaulR

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    Out the dealer! err, I mean office!
     
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  4. jpk

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    y'all are way to f***ing uptight

    get over yourselves

    Who gives a shit......boo hoo....a condom was left on a desk........
     
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  5. Asaltweapon

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    Who uses a condom anyway?
     
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  6. xero2099

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    I agree with he people who say not for banging in office but for not cleaning up after himself
     
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  7. rommel

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    another risk/reward decision
    value of employee vs the lesson that the rest of the office sees
     
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  8. Broccoli Iglesias

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    Eventually, everyone in the office will know what happened.

    Imagine the woman gets embarrassed and starts yelling sexual harrassment, me too, rape, the company knew and didnt do anything...

    It could turn into a full blown headache for the company. Specially if someone else comes out and starts yelling "me too".

    While I have no problem with people f***ing, the company needs to protect itself.
     
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  9. daekken

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    You have to get the range report before making any serious decisions.
     
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  10. jpk

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    It could
    It might
    Maybe
    We have to do something

    Sounds like someone thats lived in mass for a long time......
     
  11. GM-GUY

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    I'm assuming the woman was under him (zing) - meaning not a director level, can you say sexual harassment and a guaranteed payout?

    If Mr. Director has a wife, she can sue the company for enabling the 'Lack of Consortium' if nothing happens to him.

    How long are those files kept for? Until they hit the normal purge date, your company is in serious jeopardy (I'll take every employee called in for depositions for $500 Alex).

    He has to be canned, a company can survive losing one or two people (or are they on a permanent contract that keeps them from getting a new job?) A company cannot survive a colonoscopy by the courts and the AG soon after.
     
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  12. fishgutzy

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    Under federal labor law, if the woman is a subordinate, it cannot be presumed that she consented. Any time the man has the power to fire the employee, coercion cannot be eliminated. It is just part of the equation.
     
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  13. JayMcB

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    I can neither confirm nor deny that as a single yute I may have used office space for nookie.

    It was not cock on the clock,
    I was not at Director level;
    it wasn't with a subordinate;
    it was consensual,
    and no used prophylactics were left on colleague's desks.

    Allegedly.

    If that was the criteria....I'd vote no. Any of the above doesn't apply...and they should be kicked to the curb. And told if he fought it, the video would end up in an email to his spouse and posted on youpron with a URL to his LinkedIn account
     
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  14. jkelly1229

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    No wife

    We cant tell one way or the other if shes an employee or not.
     
  15. ThePreBanMan

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    I would have fired him. There's a time and a place and the office isn't it - at any time - ever. It's a health issue and he's endangered his co-workers by exposing them to god knows what from his bodily fluids.
     
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  16. Knuckle Dragger

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    If nothing else, the incident is one of very poor judgement and foolish and unnecessary risk taking. Not the hallmark of someone you trust with your business.
     
  17. Varmint

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    In corporate America, a CEO can authorize a $20 million buyback of company stock, then when the market crashes, sell it back for $5 million, losing $15 million of the company's cash. Will he get fired? No, he'll get a million dollar bonus.

    But having sex at work - that'll get you fired.
     
  18. new guy

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    This was a Saturday afternoon special visit to the office. I'm assuming he wasn't banging a coworker.
     
  19. ThePreBanMan

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    You can't predict what the stock will do. You sure as shit can predict what your willy johnson will do. Big difference. And most of the CEOs in the situation you describe are paid bonuses based on the company's performance. In the situation you describe, there would be no bonuses paid. Since most of those bonuses are paid in stock options as well, the CEO himself would have lost money. Compensation packages for executives are designed this way intentionally to encourage good performance.
     
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  20. TheGreekFreak

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    If I was his coworker, even the unfortunate occupant of the desk, I would never rat him out. I would be pissed and let him know I don't appreciate the smell of ass on my keyboard. I would also make him disinfect my entire workstation in front of me.

    If he was an employee.....it honestly depends. If it's some mediocre slob and I'm neutral or worse on him being part of my company, I'd let him go on the spot. If it's someone who generally has their shit together but was a victim of passion from a nice young lady, I would just have a talk with him about the headaches things like that can cause a company but go no further. If she was a smokeshow, he gets a high five on his way out of my office. No harm, no foul.
     
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  21. Scott7980

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    Where does playing with the bosses wife on his desk stand. Hilarious that was a long time ago, took his job too
     
  22. jkelly1229

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    The guy who turned him in said the same thing. Problem was the donkey who did it didn't tell anyone. So this other dude rolls into a condom on his desk thinking the cleaning lady was getting piped in his office.

    And then once the rest of us found out lol. It was inevitable others would to
     
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  23. Rockrivr1

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    Come on. Who hasn't had a fantasy of banging a chick on the boardroom table!?!?!
     
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  24. Tackdriver

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    Whenever I have sex in the office I'm the only one there.

    Dave
     
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  25. M1911

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    No, just someone who has lived in the corporate world long enough and is paying attention.
     
  26. W.E.C

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    Cautionary tale- of all married to other people , go on a hump fest for fame and fortune,

    Cost the taxpayers a bunch of dough,
    And a drunken town administrator winds up sueing the town for 5 million ,
    Cause they frowned him on getting drunk and laid in his office . Clown town, ma.

    A timeline of the Rockland Town Hall sex scandal | Boston.com
     
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  27. Broccoli Iglesias

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    This.
     
  28. Broccoli Iglesias

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    Adding to this ... I dont know how it works at every company, but usually the CEO meets with finance and the board to approve the buyback.

    I'm currently in a company that is buying several billion dollars worth of stock. I can tell you it wasnt the CEO just saying "we are buying it back" and that was it.
     
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  29. jpk

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    As have and companies do dumb shit/project and make big deals out of nothing while ignoring big things of consequence........

    But none of that makes it right/reasonable and when people enguage in/advocate for the same dumb shit..........
     
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  30. M1911

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    Companies and people make bad decisions all the time, often while being well intentioned.

    But there is a difference between making a bad business decision and being really stupid. Not firing someone who had sex in the office puts the company in needless financial and legal risk.

    An example of taking needless risk is Elon Musk tweeting financially material information (“considering taking Tesla private...funding secured...”) without having those tweets reviewed by a PR/legal team before sending. That risk has cost him and his company millions.
     
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