Senate hearing today at 10AM on Cspan

10 seconds in "we must do something", "the time is now", "you must act", "Americans are counting on you" from Gabrielle Giffords.
 
Sen Leahy talks about improving background check system. Affirms that 2nd amendment rights are fundamental and secure, referencing the two recent court cases affirming rights to keep guns for self defense. Talks about keeping guns out of the hands of criminals and adjudicated mentally ill. Something about "straw purchasers".
 
I have to applaud you guys for being able to watch this shit. I very literally get too mad to be able to handle it, I haven't been able to watch a single gun control debate or press conference after the first Newtown one. I just come here for the cliff notes.
 
Sen. Grassley (Iowa):

Opening remarks. The deaths in Newtown should not be used to put forward every measure of gun control. Talks of mental health. Lack of civility in american society has grown in the last couple of decades. Video games celebrate mass killings of people and find their way into hands of children. Should not rush to pass legislation that will not reduce mass violence. Should not ban guns based on appearance. 94 AWB did not stop Columbine, etc. Large magazines are not the problem. We hear that nobody needs, etc., hunters don't need large magazines, but a criminal unlike a deer shoots back. We can probably do something about straw purchases.

The president's 23 executive actions. Some of them seem reasonable. But despite promises of transparancy we still do not have the text of what these actions actually are. No law actually prevents gun violence research in the first place.

The constitution creates a limited Federal government. It protects state power against federal power. The bill of rights was added to increase this protection. Obama's remarks turns the constitution on its head: eg. he said victims of recent shootings are denied their fundamental rights. But this is not so - with the exception of the prohibition on slavery, the constitution limits only actions of government, not individuals. Eg. the right to peacefully assembly is mischaractarized as the right to watch movies and shop. The president accuses the opposition of stirring up far of government tyranny, but the presidents comments lead people to reasonably believe that their individual rights could be violated.
 
"something needs to be done"............ Give me a break

We dont want to take your guns away out of one side of the mouth but out of the other we need to look at the lethality of certain weapons...............Your a hypocrite ***hole Mark Kelly
 
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Sen. Grassley (Iowa):

Opening remarks. The deaths in Newtown should not be used to put forward every measure of gun control. Talks of mental health. Lack of civility in american society has grown in the last couple of decades. Video games celebrate mass killings of people and find their way into hands of children. Should not rush to pass legislation that will not reduce mass violence. Should not ban guns based on appearance. 94 AWB did not stop Columbine, etc. Large magazines are not the problem. We hear that nobody needs, etc., hunters don't need large magazines, but a criminal unlike a deer shoots back. We can probably do something about straw purchases.

The president's 23 executive actions. Some of them seem reasonable. But despite promises of transparancy we still do not have the text of what these actions actually are. No law actually prevents gun violence research in the first place.

The constitution creates a limited Federal government. It protects state power against federal power. The bill of rights was added to increase this protection. Obama's remarks turns the constitution on its head: eg. he said victims of recent shootings are denied their fundamental rights. But this is not so - with the exception of the prohibition on slavery, the constitution limits only actions of government, not individuals. Eg. the right to peacefully assembly is mischaractarized as the right to watch movies and shop. The president accuses the opposition of stirring up far of government tyranny, but the presidents comments lead people to reasonably believe that their individual rights could be violated.

Nice recap.
 
Mark Kelly (husband of Gabby Giffords) speaking now.

Lots of talk about what happened. He's a gun owner. Rights to protection, hunting, targeting. But dangerous people get dangerous weapons. These dangerous weapons have turned every corner of our society into [something about carnage].

Proposes:
- Fix gun background checks. Holes in our laws. Fix private sales loophole.
- Remove limitations on collecting data and conducting scientific research. Fed gun trafficing statute.
- Conversation about the kinds and lethality of the guns we allow to be in our society.
 
CNN cuts off the Denver Consitutional Law Professor (to go to a commercial) who was laying out ALL the facts that the ANTI's dont want to hear.
 
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