Self defense against dog

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Martinilover

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Starters - I am a dog lover and would never willingly harm one. But the craziness of MA laws has got me thinking.
I have a friend with a neighbor that has a very aggressive dog (fighting breed). It has gotten out a few times and he is fearful of his life when it’s happened.
I Wonder how law enforcement would handle it if an incident occurred.
For the case of this argument, let’s say the dog got out was on your property, and acting aggressive and charging you. If you had to defend yourself with a firearm what would be the leagal repercussions?

Section 156 seems to define it. Only thing it does not factor in is using a firearm.

General Law - Part I, Title XX, Chapter 140, Section 156

malegislature.gov malegislature.gov
 
There would probably be repercussions.

That being said, I know a person that used a bat to beat the f*ck out of a dog that was attacking his and the PD didn't do sh*t about it because the guy had his dog on a leash and the other dog was loose.

This also happened in 2005, when this country wasn't as full retard as we are today.
 
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Is the question whether or not you should be concerned about legal repercussions after defending your life, or what non-lethal defensive measures can be taken?
 
kalash said:
Is the question whether or not you should be concerned about legal repercussions after defending your life, or what non-lethal defensive measures can be taken?
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Hypothetical question, pondering what the legal ramifications would be if you had to use a firearm.
 
EddieCoyle said:
Pepper spray.

I once had a pit run into my yard and grab my ankle while I was working on my car. I sprayed brake cleaner in its eyes and after it let go, I pinned it down and shoved the nozzle into its nostril and emptied the can.
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I'm torn between laughing at the mental image and feeling bad for the dog as that had to be up there on the pain index of a tobasco and lemon juice STD panel.
 
I didn't notice it above, but step 1 - make sure it's reported to the police and you know when and who took that call or responded.

I've had the same issue, giant old black lab rottie thing, no idea what neighbor but wasn't closeby, jumping me as I got out of my truck or went outside sometimes, barking growling, charging out of the woods in the dark. Happened 4 or 5 times, called the police a couple times. Granted, I'd have been happy if they found it, two cops, guns drawn when looking - even just if captured and brought home so I knew who the ass clown neighbor was. But reporting it, your fear, is a CYA.
 
Pepper spray for aggressive dogs works great. I also carry bear spray if the pepper spray doesn't stop them. Haven't needed the bear spray yet.
 
EddieCoyle said:
Pepper spray.

I once had a pit run into my yard and grab my ankle while I was working on my car. I sprayed brake cleaner in its eyes and after it let go, I pinned it down and shoved the nozzle into its nostril and emptied the can.
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Yikes! If it survived it must have been high as a kite from huffing.

OC spray for me.....it just looks better when all the dog apologists start crying......
 
Martinilover said:
Hypothetical question, pondering what the legal ramifications would be if you had to use a firearm.
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There is no answer to this. It depends where this incident happens...if its east of 495...your likely to be villified. If your in Central/West it might be fine as long as all the dog lover fags don't roast you publicly.

Realistically the chief who would charge you or not pretty much holds the cards.
 
When I was in HS neighbor down the street had an a$$hole dog that was always chasing me on my bike when I delivered papers. He thought it was a joke and told me to man up and deal with it. Next time that dog came after me I nailed it in the side with a few rocks from a wrist rocket sling shot. Every time that dog saw me in the future it ran the other way.

Seriously, I carry mace with me. I would give the dog a good spray in the face and if that didn't work I would shoot it.
 
LT5 said:
What if he’s into that sort of thing?????
He might want to stay the night……..
Then he might not want to stay for breakfast in the morning and things could get awkward………..











Or so I’ve heard……
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Check it's collar, if the tag says "my safe word is meow", then you know.
 
Dog are not people they are property. You are not shooting a person. If you are in threat of serious bodily injury or death you are able to use deadly force to protect yourself. As long as you are protecting yourself. If you are walking your dog and your dog is attacked, dogs are property and in Massachusetts you can not protect property with deadly force. The other problem you may encounter is discharging a firearm within 500 ft of a dwelling. You still could be deemed unsuitable. This state can jamb you up 3 ways to Sunday if they want.
 
Martinilover said:
Starters - I am a dog lover and would never willingly harm one. But the craziness of MA laws has got me thinking.
I have a friend with a neighbor that has a very aggressive dog (fighting breed). It has gotten out a few times and he is fearful of his life when it’s happened.
I Wonder how law enforcement would handle it if an incident occurred.
For the case of this argument, let’s say the dog got out was on your property, and acting aggressive and charging you. If you had to defend yourself with a firearm what would be the leagal repercussions?

Section 156 seems to define it. Only thing it does not factor in is using a firearm.

General Law - Part I, Title XX, Chapter 140, Section 156

malegislature.gov malegislature.gov
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Unfortunately, the majority of dog owners are entitled, ignorant morons. Loose uncontrolled dogs are a huge problem. I’ve pepper sprayed off leash dogs several times. The law says you can kill the dog outside of its owners enclosure, but it doesn’t say how. They would likely try to jam you up on discharging a firearm within 500 feet of a building, etc. I would go with the pepper spray and a baseball bat.
 
RHJJ said:
Pepper spray for aggressive dogs works great. I also carry bear spray if the pepper spray doesn't stop them. Haven't needed the bear spray yet.
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Bear spray is actually less potent than pepper spray because bears (and dogs) are far more sensitive to it than humans and it doesn't need to be as potent. Bear spray does shoot a while lot more/farther though so very effective on dogs.

I'd suggest that pepper/bear spray will be more effective on a dog than a handgun as a dog probably won't die right away unless you shoot it in the head or heart. You don't even need to hit a dog with pepper spray, you can spray it on the ground in front of you or the dog and it'll likely do the trick (although a direct hit would be better). I'm thinking of a scenario in the woods or a field where a dog/dogs/coyote pack is approaching, threatening but hasn't attacked yet. You spray a circle of bear spray around you and I doubt they'll cross it. If the wind is right they'll leave quickly enough.
 
LT5 said:
What if he’s into that sort of thing?????
He might want to stay the night……..
Then he might not want to stay for breakfast in the morning and things could get awkward………..











Or so I’ve heard……
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I've never known a dog that would turn down breakfast [laugh]
 
Buck F said:
Bear spray is actually less potent than pepper spray because bears (and dogs) are far more sensitive to it than humans and it doesn't need to be as potent. Bear spray does shoot a while lot more/farther though so very effective on dogs.

I'd suggest that pepper/bear spray will be more effective on a dog than a handgun as a dog probably won't die right away unless you shoot it in the head or heart. You don't even need to hit a dog with pepper spray, you can spray it on the ground in front of you or the dog and it'll likely do the trick (although a direct hit would be better). I'm thinking of a scenario in the woods or a field where a dog/dogs/coyote pack is approaching, threatening but hasn't attacked yet. You spray a circle of bear spray around you and I doubt they'll cross it. If the wind is right they'll leave quickly enough.
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You are right. I bought the bear spray for the distance and volume incase of multi dog attacks.
 
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