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on my way to major waldrons today to test fire my AR and HK...guess i was going a little too fast and got pulled over by a NH statey...he saw the rifles in the back of my car and asked me what i had, where i was going and why, then asked to see my LTC...he asked if i had a gun on me and i told him i did and he made me step out of the car, removed my firearm and knife...told me to keep my hands where he could see em and im assuming ran the serial # of my gun in his car...came back about 15 minutes later while i remained spread eagle on the trunk of my car, gave me my gun back and told me to be on my way...on my way with a $250 ticket...one of the scariest experiences ive been in since ive had my LTC...me and my friends have talked about what our reactions would be if we got pulled over while carrying...well...today i can say i almost needed a change of pants[sad2]
 
Sounds like you did the right thing and so did he, Sorry about the ticket.

Maybe I shouldn't mention getting pulled over going into Boston over the Mystic River Bridge by a Mass Statie. He said I was doing 60 and the ramo speed is 30. I said I didn't realize it and nothing else.

10 minutes lateer I was driving away with a "warning". I don't know what I did but I'll try to do it again if I get pulled over again!
 
He removed your firearm that you were carrying? Yikes... why did he do that? I guess when he was running your plate he wanted to make sure you didn't do something stupid? Sorry about the ticket.
 
blood hound said:
he saw the rifles in the back of my car and asked me what i had, where i was going and why,
[sad2]

Why on earth could he see what you had in the back of your car? I'm sure you were totally legal (except for the speeding part) but come on. One of the most dangerous things in the line of police work is a traffic stop. If they have no reason to question you about firearms, they most likely wont. Keep your stuff in the trunk, or at the very least covered, and they wont ask obvious questions.

Brian
 
how come the ticket was so high? how fast were you going?

i've been pulled over many a times for speeding but never got fined that much....unless it had to do with your guns.


BTW-sorry about the ticket.
 
the guns i had in my trunk were all in cases...with trigger locks on them and cable locks on the cases...he knew they were rifles and asked what kind...one was a 20 gauge o/u, the other my ar-15...as soon as i said ar-15 i kind of choked on my words a little bit hopin that the trooper wouldnt get nervous...but i think the fact that i was wearin an NRA shooting jacket kind of made him realize i was on my way to the range and not to rob a bank...i didnt have the guns in the trunk cuz i was running late and instead of fighting to get the cases in the trunk i threw em in the back seat

i have a feeling i got a ticket cuz im a MA resident...my cousin told me in the 3 years he's been in NH hes been pulled over 9 times and never got a ticket...he says he clocked me doin 83...i was on rte 95N...i dont know what the speed limit is there 55 or 65
 
blood hound said:
i have a feeling i got a ticket cuz im a MA resident...my cousin told me in the 3 years he's been in NH hes been pulled over 9 times and never got a ticket...he says he clocked me doin 83...i was on rte 95N...i dont know what the speed limit is there 55 or 65
Yeah, that happened to me in CT. I was going with traffic, everyone was going about 70, but I was the only MA plate in that stretch of traffic. I got a $200 ticket.
It's a good way to generate revenue for the state since there's essentially no chance that a person will travel out of state to avoid a ticket so they'll just pay up.
The good news is that they didn't report the speeding ticket to MA so it didn't effect my insurance rates or license. I didn't have any guns on me though.

Glad that you made it through with only a ticket.
 
blood hound said:
i have a feeling i got a ticket cuz im a MA resident...my cousin told me in the 3 years he's been in NH hes been pulled over 9 times and never got a ticket...he says he clocked me doin 83...i was on rte 95N...i dont know what the speed limit is there 55 or 65
I can attest to the fact that locals don't get any special treatment here. My girlfriend gets ticketed generally 2-3 times a year (yeah, she's a horrible driver with zero situational awareness) and has never once gotten out of even the most mundane ticket ... and she's a cute, petite, blonde so the theory that cops let good looking women off with warnings is bogus too.

Personally I always keep it with 5mph in town, and 10mph on the highway ... and I never speed when I've got guns in the car, that's just a personal policy ... the dozen or so people stacked up behind me can go screw.
 
Dumb Question: How did the officer see your rifles if they were in the trunk ? Generally speaking, a LEO can only search what is in plain view. Did he ask you to open the trunk ? If he asked you do not have to comply, but then you might be opening up another can of worms altogether.

If he asked you to open the trunk and you complied, what could have motivated him was your NRA shooting jacket. Why advertise that you own and shoot guns ? A person is only inviting himself to a fishing expedition by law enforcement. I am willing to bet that you also give some neurolinguistic indicators that strongly suggested that you were under duress which would have only piqued his interest. This is not a condemnation of your actions at all, and is only speculation on my part as I lack some of the pertinent details.

Also sometimes it is best to avoid odious nomenclature, instead of saying that one has an AR, one could say: "I have a Colt (Bushmaster etc.) .223" and that would probably suffice. A significant percentage of LEOs are not firearms savvy, but say AR and there is a good chance that a LEO will know that term.

In the end, everything turned out okay. It is unfortunate that you got such a large fine. You might want to place yourself at the mercy of the court. I did that in Connecticut once and got my fine reduced. The judge said that he thought the fine was excessive. I was very contrite and did not try to argue the fact that I was unjustly given the ticket. Afterall, I was doing 90 in a 55 zone (it was 3 am in the morning on I-84 in West Hartford).

Mark
 
Well I’m sorry he treated you like a threat. The whole thing sounds pretty humiliating. I’ve gone pretty fast down that same stretch of road and have been fortunate enough not to get pulled over. I’m pretty sure it is a 65mph zone except for right before the toll, and then coming up to the rotary in Portsmouth.

It’s kinda hard, when you are caught off guard by some of the questions the may ask. They teach them how to do that in Police Academy. I’d chock it up to an unpleasant experience. Next time a Police officer asks, be truthful. An AR could be referred to as a .22 caliber target rifle and an O/U could be described as a field or skeet gun. It’s almost always worth it to keep the stuff covered or in the trunk. I even got rid of all my bumper stickers and NRA decals a long time ago. It just gives them reason to ask questions, and points out to criminals that there may be a firearm in the car. We use to go through CT, NY and NJ and sometimes through WDC to matches in Quantico. We didn’t want any hassles from the locals and it was worth it to be in stealth mode.

Several years ago I went to a match in New Brunswick Canada. I had my rifle and about a hundred and fifty rounds of ammo. I came to the border crossing and they asked me what I was doing and I gave him a truthful story about going to a Palma tournament. Like a border control guy would know what the hell that is. I specifically left out the words rifle and match. I kept telling him about how we do it every year, and it’s great fun, love coming up here, they come down to compete against us, yada yada yada. I almost made it through. He asked me a couple of other questions and then he popped the firearms question. Well about an hour later they let me go. They looked at everything and I do mean everything in my truck. Only thing they didn’t do was pull the bullets out of the cases and dump the powder. He even tried to trick me with some math questions and about how much ammo I had, and how many rounds do you shoot per day. They were very nice and professional through the whole thing though. It’s a good thing though that I went through the truck and my shooting stool and my toolbox and got rid of things like stray 9mm bullets; AR-15 magazines and the like. That would have required a lot more of an explanation.

Every other time it has worked like a charm and I’ve never been asked to pull over. That was one time that I was alone though, and all this was pre 9/11. I haven’t been back since then and I know the Canadian firearms laws changed so you have to buy a permit.

Brian
 
the guns i had in my trunk were all in cases...with trigger locks on them and cable locks on the cases...he knew they were rifles and asked what kind...one was a 20 gauge o/u, the other my ar-15...as soon as i said ar-15 i kind of choked on my words a little bit hopin that the trooper wouldnt get nervous...but i think the fact that i was wearin an NRA shooting jacket kind of made him realize i was on my way to the range and not to rob a bank...i didnt have the guns in the trunk cuz i was running late and instead of fighting to get the cases in the trunk i threw em in the back seat
Two words: low profile!

Put them in the trunk if you can. Cover them if you can't. Never wear stuff with gun logos unless you are at the range.

And don't drive like an idiot when you've got a bunch of guns in the car.

You DO NOT want to attract the attention of our friends in blue.
 
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M1911 said:
Two words: low profile!

Put them in the trunk if you can. Cover them if you can't. Never wear stuff with gun logos unless you are at the range.

And don't drive like an idiot when you've got a bunch of guns in the car.

You DO NOT want to attract the attention of our friends in blue.

Thanks M.

Even if the guns were in cases - they were in the back seat of the car and in plain view. I absolutely HATE being late. Ask my husband - I usually drive him nuts if I dont' think he's moving fast enough for us to get out the door. However, even tho I have a phobia about being late, if I'm carrying guns, either on my person (which is all the time) or in my car, I don't push my luck driving faster than 70 on the highway.

As much as the ticket sucks - be glad it was someone who had a head on his shoulders and knew what the laws were. A rookie might not and you could have wound up in the back of the cruiser.

I don't mean to sound thick skinned, but we gun owners HAVE to be smarter and more careful than the rest of the idiots out there.
 
I'm still confused. In one post he talks about the guns being in the back and in another he talks about them being in the trunk. If they were in the trunk, the officer couldn't see them, unless it was a hatchback.

Gary
 
Garys said:
I'm still confused. In one post he talks about the guns being in the back and in another he talks about them being in the trunk. If they were in the trunk, the officer couldn't see them, unless it was a hatchback.

Gary

I believe he meant the rifles were in the back seat - he was running late and didn't want to wrestle the cases into the trunk. The hand guns were in cases in the trunk.
 
Garys said:
Maybe Lynne, but it sure doesn't read that way to me. I guess we'll just have to wait for a clarification.

Gary

You're right Gary. There were guns in the trunk and guns in the back seat, but I'm confused now too. [smile]
 
Lynne said:
You're right Gary. There were guns in the trunk and guns in the back seat, but I'm confused now too. [smile]

Welcome to the confused club! Maybe the guns in the back seat were in A trunk, not THE trunk. <G>

Gary
 
blood hound said:
all of the guns were in gun cases in the back seat...there was nothing in the trunk...and my ccw pistol was on my hip in a kydex holster

Thanks BH! Now that that's cleared up....
 
Okay, now that makes a lot more sense.

As a couple of people have mentioned, it's probably better to keep the guns out of sight, either in the trunk or under a blanket or something. NH does not require you to inform the officer that you are armed and based on your experience I have to wonder how wise it is to do so. Then again, it could just be that individual trooper.

I'm assuming you have a NH LTC.

Gary
 
yes...i have a NH LTC...i told him i was armed because thats what i was told to do if ever pulled over by any kind of LE...i was told to keep my hands on the wheel, inform the officer i was LTC owner and had a pistol on me...tell him where it was located and if it was loaded or not...the guy that i took my LTC course with said its better to be safe then sorry and have the officer see the butt of a gun while you reach for your registration...apparently i did the right thing because the trooper obviously never felt endangered or i believe he may have drawn his pistol or called for back up
 
It just doesn't seem like he thought it was a routine stop. At least not to me. I think I once mentioned that I had a permit and was carrying when I was stopped. The officer essentially said, "That's nice, did you know that your registration sticker was expired?". I told him that I had the new sticker in my brief case but had just picked up the car from a body shop in Brockton and hadn't put it on yet. He told me to put it on when I got home and he didn't blame me for carrying if I was driving through Brockton.

He did want to see my driver's license and my new registration but he never asked for my LTC.

I guess it's all in what the officer's "gut" tells him.

Gary
 
well what i thought was weird was that the officer drove so fast...and so close behind me...ive been pulled over before and its always the same routine...the officer stops a lil ways back from you and sits in his car for a lil bit making you sweat just a lil more then he finally after what seems liek forever approaches the car and asks to see your license and registration...this one wasnt the same...he followed me for awhile before turning his lights on...then drove up my ass...pulled up really close and immediately got out of his car and in my drivers window...i dont know if maybe he brought me up in his computer prior to the stop and knew the potential i was armed and felt he wanted to get to me before i could do anything or what not but it just seemed strange he acted so swiftly
 
ive been pulled over before and its always the same routine...the officer stops a lil ways back from you and sits in his car for a lil bit making you sweat just a lil more then he finally after what seems liek forever approaches the car and asks to see your license and registration...this one wasnt the same...he followed me for awhile before turning his lights on...then drove up my ass...pulled up really close and immediately got out of his car and in my drivers window
Maybe on the previous stops, the officer was running your plate before approaching your car. Perhaps on this stop, the officer ran your plate while following you, before pulling you over.
 
What's the lesson? Drive the speed limit and keep in stealth mode. I find it interesting when I read these threads. You really have no idea of everyone’s age. You can guess by replies and language, but it's still just a guess. I’m in my mid 40’s and have been a good driver for the last 10 years, before that however, I was fast. Sports cars = tickets = insurance increases. I’ve learned my lessons and keep my speed down. Since I only own SUV’s that helps as well. 83 mph was a bit excessive considering you had a concealed firearm and an AK in the backseat, don’t you think?
 
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