Rust & Corrosion Preventive

N.E. CHARTERS

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looking for some penetrating oil to loosen up rusted boats and nuts. I have tried just about every product out there with varying degrees of success. Some work but are real nasty to use and dangerous to the environment, Others work so-so and some don’t work at all. I came across a product that I have never heard of so I thought that I would give it a try. Rust & Corrosion Preventive Penetrate & Lubricant.
 
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Mythbusters did the can of coke thing

Mythbusters did the can of coke thing and it did not show signifigent rust absoling properties. They even tried preserving meat with coke and only got rotten nasty meat.

We used to use the Navy Bug Juice for cleaning rust but it also takes days before you get results. Bug Juice does make a good degreaser and you can quench your thirst while you work.

The Fluid Film disolves not only rust but I could see the green copper fowling melting out of the gun barrel. All withing seconds of spraying this stuff on.

It also lubricates with a thin film that does not change viscosity due to tempeture. Thats a plus for cold wether shooting in a salty duck marsh .

I am going to conduct another test to see what happens. Soaking some ammo in Fluid Film. The object is to find out if factory sealed ammo will survive and still function flawlessly or if it will soak into the powder & primer and cause misfires. Ill post the results.


I just used some on a new baseball glove and it was instant break-in. Nice. So I tried it on an old worn glove and it restored the suppleness to the leather. This stuff has a very faint pine scent so should not scare off deer or moose when used on boots or firearms.

Their web site suggests using it all over vechicals as a rust preventitive and spraying on shovels so snow slides off. I guess It would work on my show plow blade. Has anyone else tried this stuff?

PS: bazfoo. Not Itch??? It feels like lanolin. The same stuff that is used as healing salve on cows utters for milking and fancy smanchy hand lotions.

(Ever felt a MilkMaids hands?)
 
You're not involved with this company in any form are you? LOL....You sound like the dude on those infomercials on TV.... [wink]

This stuff sounds promising, I'm going to find some and give it a try.
 
Fluid Film

Nope I dont work for fluid Film. Kinda cool that you think I sound like an informercial, maybe its a new Career in the making?

It slices, It Dices BAM!
 
Coke on Batteries

I watched the guys on MythBuster do the Coke thing on lead acid batteries.

It does work but not any better than distilled water.
Now if you add some Baking Soada to the water and brush it on batteries you can watch the Alkine nutrlize the ph from the battery acid. Who! Then give it a coat of conducive grease and it will transfer the current much better.

Another great tip: I was in Wally World with my wife and she was shopping cosmetics, I dont usally hang around that dept so I had never seen these before; They had bags of 1,000 lint free cotten cleaning patchs that just happen to be the right size to patch a .50 or .54 cal round ball in your mussleloader, and they were only $1.98 a bag. The package was labeled face wipes or sumthing like that; but I knew what they were relly for as soon as I saw them.

OK: Now I wonder how that Fluid Film would work in the Smokestick as patch lube?
 
Mythbuster may have said that, but I'll stand behind my comment. I've done it myself.

Coke does clean severely corroded battery terminals well. Water will not do anything but rinse them off. I figure the phosphoric acid in the Coke eats the corrosion, which evidently has to be a base, not an acid (otherwise the Coke wouldn't react).

I'll also tell you we used to clean brass with Kool-Aid. It has some form of acid in it. Try that one yourself. Soak some brass overnight in Kool-Aid, and some in water. Observe the difference.
 
You need to take a serious look at this product line.

http://www.corrosionx.com/

Corrosion X for firearms is great stuff. It will remove rust and protect for future. Also works well for cleaning.

e mail to Mike Tuit tell him what you want to do and let him recommend the produce for you. Tell him it was recommended by a fellow SWCA member.

Regards,

Gary SWCA 1542
 
On Fridays, we used to take loader, grader, and other split ring wheels off the vehicle, lay them down, pour a can of Coke on the rims and let it sit for the weekend. Then come Mon or Tues, we'd break them down to change the tires. It was alot easier than trying to do it dry and rusted. And we did it by hand with slide hammers (big ones).
Also used it on battery terminals. It cleans them right off.
But you still have to clean them with water after. And I thought you only needed distilled water inside the battery cells?
 
Well, I figure if you poured Coke in a battery (in the cells), that would probably ruin it.

I was referring to the terminals, on the outside. I've heard about using it to break down split rim tires before.
 
I'll confirm that Fluid Film is amazing stuff. I had a frozen up, rusted bearing on my sawmill. A friend gave me a partial can of this stuff and said to try it. I sprayed the bearing and worked it in. Anyways that bearing lasted another 7 months.
The door latch on my barn hans up. I spray WD-40 on it and it lasts a few days. You spray this Fluid Film oh it and it lasts for 8 months and this is outdoors and mild steel. It's the best penatrant and rust preventer I've seen and I've used more than a few.
I have no connection to this company.
 
Try the Kroil line from Kano Labs. I use their AeroKroil & SiliKroil daily to lube all kinds of stuff on the trucks & machines, and also to clean up rust, clean up adhesives, etc..... They work really well, & they discount if you purchase by the case.

As for breaking down split rim tires, AHHHHH!!!!!
 
Lubes

I have used the LPS on various things from motorcycles to Hawk rocket launchers and it works well in hot dry enviouments. Its not bad on guns either but it does not last as long. at least it does not leave a messy greasy residue to attract dirt.

Kroil is pretty good depending on what you use it for. I had never seen it before working with the Govt on avaition gear. Seems like certain products get used by different branches of the Govt and as we all know thy dont talk to each other. That would make too much sense. It works OK as a lube but tends to gel up ie: change viscosity at below zero temps. and getss sticky and messy. I have used the Kroil on Radars and Avaition equip. It is obvious why the Air Force used revolvers if they used Kroil for lube. It acctracts dirt like Pigpen from Charlie Brown.

But for a real kick ass test try using a product at below zero temps in a salt water enviourment with sand & muck to work with This has got to be the toughest test of any product to stand up to. Ive tried Fluid Film on my guns knives truck and plow and will give it a try on all of my boats and fishing tackle when the weather breaks. I dont recall using Fluid Film onboard USN boats but then again not much would jam up those old springfield .45s or M14s. You could cycle barnecales thru them they were so sloppy.
 
Re: Lubes

NEWENGLANDCHARTERS said:
I have used the LPS ....
Sounds like you used LPS 2. LPS 3 leaves a heavy coating of microcrystaline wax ( and who knows what else). I've used it recently on machinery, but not long enough to know how it will perform under all conditions, or if there are any reactions with synthetics and / or stock finishes.
 
Nickle said:
... I figure the phosphoric acid in the Coke eats the corrosion, which evidently has to be a base, not an acid (otherwise the Coke wouldn't react). ...

IIRC, that's not completely true; there are some acids (called buffers) that act as a base when mixed with stronger acids.

I always thought of battery terminal corrosion as a salt; the product of an acid and a base. Now this is gonna bug me all day.
 
Ray P said:
IIRC, that's not completely true; there are some acids (called buffers) that act as a base when mixed with stronger acids.

I always thought of battery terminal corrosion as a salt; the product of an acid and a base. Now this is gonna bug me all day.

That makes sense of it.
 
As a self proclaimed clean freak, I switched to Ballistol about a year ago. The stuff is great. I only can find it in Midway, or go to their website www.ballistol.com and read about it. Not sure about rust though.
 
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