Ruger introduces their take on the FN Five-Seven

[Machines]

Not something I'd have guessed the market was desperate for, but hey it exists now. What do the NESers think?


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[Nick Fury]

I think if it is less than half the price the FN runs for I would be interested...

 

[ReluctantDecoy]

So I'm assuming it will drastically undercut the FN model in base price. However, I have to question how much of an impact that will have overall if the rounds are still like $0.40 on the cheaper end for FMJ. It's not like this exotic caliber is courting the budget conscious.

Choices are good though I guess. Better to have them than not.

 

[daekken]

Interesting, as many (all?) 22lr suppressors will also work with 5.7 ammo...if there's a threaded barrel available, might be fun (but not very quiet still, most likely). Still not that interested probably.

 

[drgrant]

 

[Waher]

The American series is already a dog that no one wants and they could be making money introducing a SR 2.0 series to compete with S&W's M&P line, but instead they do this.

W-T-F?

This is as mind boggling as not making minor improvements to the Mini-14 line for ban happy states or offering a PC carbine like chassis for free states.

It's like they have one group of competent designers which also appreciates aesthetics that alternates shifts with a team that failed Kel-Tech somehow by cribbing Tapco garbage with a Crayolas and was banished to Ruger.

 

[Randy Lahey]

Cool, nice that there’s an alternative to the Five-seveN. Why not? More the merrier.

 

[Machines]

Watch the classifieds fill up with FNs before their resale tanks.

 

[drgrant]

I think if it is less than half the price the FN runs for I would be interested...

Given it's a ruger I can't imagine that selling for much more than 600 bucks. The FN FiveSeven and the USG used to be a lot cheaper than they are now (I remember those guns being like 800 bucks) I think once they figured out there was a cult following they just kept cranking the prices up and it didn't affect sales much... so the extra profit was just pocketed.

About the only "good" thing that I can see this thing doing, is it will drive down the price on a FiveSeven. So those that more easily want one, can just buy it.

-Mike

 

[FiremanBob]

Smart move, a seriously underserved, if small niche. How many people look at the FN and immediately ask the salesman, "$1350 for this?"

It's also a higher-end competitor for the PMR-30, which is a very cool little pistol but not especially accurate, and also doesn't feel well-made.

I like the Ruger American pistol very much. We have one and I would not object to having another, so if someone really thinks it's a POS, I have a small amount of money available.

 

[ScottS]

I would have loved to see the results of that focus group.

"No. I think what we need is a competitor to the FN 5.7! We need more choices in the ever-expanding 5.7x28mm market..."

What's next? An LCP .30 Luger?

 

[Nick Fury]

What's next? An LCP .30 Luger?

I would actually buy that...

 

[Waher]

I would have loved to see the results of that focus group.

"No. I think what we need is a competitor to the FN 5.7! We need more choices in the ever-expanding 5.7x28mm market..."

What's next? An LCP .30 Luger?

Well they just released a .22lr lcp so maybe.

 

[citoriguy]

Hopefully, for their sake, they did this in a 9mm or 45ACP. There‘s no need for some of these esoteric/exotic calibers for Ruger to e getting in to. FN, Sig, others, go for it, but Ruger needs volume sales at this point without sacrificing quality.

 

[Machines]

I think the 57 makes some sense. It literally only has one competitor and they undercut them by half a grand. That guarantees a lot of sales, although dunno if the market is big enough to support making the gun. The LCP .22 makes less sense to me. You don't want to carry a .22 defensively, the LCP is too small to be a fun plinker, and I'd want to train using the same ammo I'm carrying. But I guess there's going after the market Taurus and Beretta are selling guns in so more power to them.

 

[slap shot]

Why? Why not? 20 rounds of armor penetrating sexiness

 

[CrackPot]

Keltec already plays in this space with the 30 round PMR 30 in 22WMR. Gun is cheaper, ammo is cheaper, fireball is larger, and balistics are not that far different.

 

[oldgunner]

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Keltec already plays in this space with the 30 round PMR 30 in 22WMR. Gun is cheaper, ammo is cheaper, fireball is larger, and balistics are not that far different.

 

[Machines]

The PMR-30 uses rimmed, rimfire ammo so that automatically makes it a novelty. Plus I think I remember building something that looked like that with a Lego Technics set when I was 9.

 

[Deleted member 67409]

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The FN 5.7 makes sense because its the pistol equivalent of the PS90. Both were in response to military trials. There are no current military trials to adopt a sub-9mm pistol. The consumer market has more or less rejected the 5.7 round and pistol.

Sooooooooooo, yeah.

 

[Yankee Clipper]

Why? Why not? 20 rounds of armor penetrating sexiness

It appears to be 20 rounds


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[1776]

Not MA compliant, but definitely looks recyclable

 

[granitestater]

That gun looks just like the FN Five SeveN. What is interesting is that Ruger is sueing Smith & Wesson over the 10 22:

Sturm, Ruger takes Smith & Wesson to court over its iconic .22-caliber rifle

It will be interesting to see if FN sues Ruger.....

 

[Dennis in MA]

It appears NES is being overrun with teenage girls. As technology-forward as I am, I'm sorta proud I don't have Instagram. LOL. Noooooo picky!

 

[CrackPot]

I can now see it on distributors.

Model 16401 is 20rds, 4.94" barrel, adjustable rear and fiber optic front sights
Model 16402 same but 10rds

MSRP is $799.00
I have not seen a MAP so can't predict the free state price. Sub $600 if they don't apply a MAP

 

[greencobra]

i've wanted to play with one for a while since a guy in work a few years ago was talking about it. at the time i'd never heard of it before. but shit, the price tag of the fn was out of my range for really....a frivolous purchase. it's a niche market for sure but if it comes in at half of the fn price i'm in.

 

[shootermcgavin1]

Meh, better than the “legendary” .22 Glock.

 

[DW357]

I have to question how much of an impact that will have overall if the rounds are still like $0.40 on the cheaper end for FMJ. It's not like this exotic caliber is courting the budget conscious.

This. Even reloading it is a PITA from what I hear. So you're basically stuck paying 40 cents per round.

 

[rep308]

just what I need, another bastard caliber to worry about stocking levels.....

 

[drgrant]

i've wanted to play with one for a while since a guy in work a few years ago was talking about it. at the time i'd never heard of it before. but shit, the price tag of the fn was out of my range for really....a frivolous purchase. it's a niche market for sure but if it comes in at half of the fn price i'm in.

Those guns used to be $800. FN probably jacked the price because they figured out that if someone can afford the ammo, the price of the gun doesn't really matter much.

-Mike