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Revolver unloading using "one sharp slap" massad technique. Yeah.....dont do that..
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.357 Sig: What's the Point of this Cartridge?
A look at the 357 Sig cartridge the role it fills in the shooting world and why it might still be an option for your self-defense needs.
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Significantly more recoil and muzzle blast than 9mm with the same capacity as .40, and the ammo costs more. And after all that, the effectiveness isn’t really any better than 9mm or .40. There might have been a point when 9mm JHP sucked, but I don’t see any point for it today.
Not quite as stupid a cartridge as .327 Magnum or .30 Super, but close.
chris_1001
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Your point?.357 Sig: What's the Point of this Cartridge?
A look at the 357 Sig cartridge the role it fills in the shooting world and why it might still be an option for your self-defense needs.
chris_1001
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gerrycaruso
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I don't think I'd push the rod against the bench. It might bend. I once watched a guy at the club beating the charging handle of an STG 44 against a 6x6 post to try and get the bolt to open. Not a great way to treat any gun, let alone an expensive machinegun.
allen-1
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Glock 31.
Well, not for pocket carry, unless you wear hillbilly overalls like my friend Bill. But he’s like 6’7” so normal dimensions don’t really apply to him.
Anyhow. .357Sig is an interesting round. Lot of perceived recoil, decent impact (on pins), flat trajectory and a pita to load.
I’ve git a 9mm conversion barrel in mine most days.
allen-1
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Same thing, (crud ring), happens with .38 & .357
Strangely enough I've had different results with different guns like when I had my SW 640 it was a lot more accurate than my LCR ever was but I think that was just because the grips Etc fit my hand better so that I could have a repeatable pointing kind of a thing going on. I do think that like a three or four inch revolver is easier to shoot either because the intrinsic accuracy is better and the sight radius is better. I wanted a k6s 3 inch gun but the window closed too early. ( I generally hate krapber but their revolvers are pretty nice. ) ironically the 3-in Unicorn that you seek is made by them in multiple configurations. Yes it's $1200 but frankly that's what a revolver that doesn't need help out of the box these days probably costs. Hell, smith is getting like a grand for those 340PD "blow up surprise" guns.
I have a few 2 inch snubs and a several 3 inch, all are about the same frame size, I or J equivalents. I bring that up being the beefier the frame, the more it handles the stresses in shooting better and I think that does lead to tighter groups.Strangely enough I've had different results with different guns like when I had my SW 640 it was a lot more accurate than my LCR ever was but I think that was just because the grips Etc fit my hand better so that I could have a repeatable pointing kind of a thing going on. I do think that like a three or four inch revolver is easier to shoot either because the intrinsic accuracy is better and the sight radius is better. I wanted a k6s 3 inch gun but the window closed too early. ( I generally hate krapber but their revolvers are pretty nice. ) ironically the 3-in Unicorn that you seek is made by them in multiple configurations. Yes it's $1200 but frankly that's what a revolver that doesn't need help out of the box these days probably costs. Hell, smith is getting like a grand for those 340PD "blow up surprise" guns.
The sights have a huge impact, not just the radius, but the actual sights themselves. The 2 inch snubs are the typical groove on the top of the frame, fixed front, so there's no ability to adjust or even change the sights. They're pretty meh, the .327 is probably the best shooter of the bunch.
The 3 inches, one has adjustable sights, the Charter is fixed and has a fiber optic front so there's no real ability for precision, and the others are H&R top breaks with the skinny front blade and small rear notch. The top breaks I shoot well, maybe that skinny blade helps or the low .32 recoil while the adjustable is the LCRx.
Perhaps if I got a 2 inch with adjustable sights I'd be in business, but those are so tough to find and pricey and it's like, what's the point? I'm probably never going to pocket carry these, it's going to be IWB and if I'm doing IWB going to 3 inch doesn't add much size or weight, but the added velocity and accuracy for me makes a real difference.
The Kimber would be one that has good sights, better than what Taurus does on their small frame snubs and Ruger the only non Super Poopy 101 revolvers with decent sights that's a short barrel is their 7 shot GP, which is a larger frame and that's getting into a size I wouldn't want to carry. If Ruger would get their head out their butt and make a 2 or 3 inch LCR .38 DAO WITH adjustable sights or a replaceable rear sight they might have something. Otherwise the LCRx 3 inch models are the only ones with non-garbage sights that aren't a bitch to carry, but they do have an exposed hammer and the rear sight is a flimsy adjustable.
So, yeah, the Kimber may be the best one for a small frame with decent rugged sights. Still, $900 is a hard pill to swallow just for some better sights and there's no other calibers to pick from than .357 Mag. I'm not really motivated enough to bother.
If Kimber would make a 5 shot .45 like the K6s, I'd be all over that.
Easier to reload for too.Well.... .327 is probably marginally more common than 45GAP is.
The biggest benefit to the .327 is the ability to shoot very low recoil .32 S&W or H&R, but still able to shoot higher power .327 with factory ammo. .32 H&R has been getting some support recently in Charter and S&W making new revolvers for it while Ruger and Taurus are doing .327's instead. My preference going forward is .32 Mag because they hold the throats tighter and that means more velocity with my reloads.
