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quick computer question, please

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  1. greencobra

    greencobra NES Member

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    i'm wondering why on my hp laptop, when I type in a question in the header line, you know. https\\, sometimes the search engine it uses is bing. I prefer google. it happens only on certain sites, nes is one amoung others. my desktop does not do this, it's always google. it has to be the computer i'm figuring. how would I correct this? I have google selected as default in the settings, I usually reselect since i'm in there anyway. any easy solution for me?
     
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    If you're searching right from the address bar it isn't site related because you aren't searching through through site; you're leaving it to go to a search engine. Are you sure your default is set, as opposed to "use Google this time"?
     
  3. greencobra

    greencobra NES Member

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    yes, it shows in the selected box. at setting, when it asks to select, a drop down menu comes up with 4 or 5 search engines. it's just point and click. but yes, it does ask for a confirmation. it's windows 10 by the way if that means anything.
     
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    it means your freedom to choose things your PC does is even smaller than in the previous versions of Windows. Use Chrome or Firefox, your bing problem will go away
     
  5. greencobra

    greencobra NES Member

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    using chrome
     
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    Set your default search engine
    1. On your computer, open Chrome.
    2. At the top right, click More [​IMG] [​IMG] Settings.
    3. Under "Search engine," next to "Search engine used in the address bar," click the Down arrow [​IMG].
    4. Select a new default search engine.
     
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  7. greencobra

    greencobra NES Member

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    done, but...it was already selected and showing as default. re-selected it.
     
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    greencobra NES Member

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    when i open "manage search engines" it also says "selected"
     
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    greencobra NES Member

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    ha! simple, will do this. get rid of it once and for all. will do it later this morning. glad i thought of it! lol
     
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    If that doesn't work, try deactivating any recently added Chrome extensions. I had a video downloader that worked great but always routed searches through Yahoo regardless of default engine choice. Now I just deactivate that extension when not in use.
     
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    greencobra NES Member

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    i removed them a while ago unless it leaves residuals behind?? i'm using an ad blocker though, adblock plus, maybe it could be the culprit.
     
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    Brewer NES Life Member NES Member

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    Maybe not an extension then. And I wouldn't suspect Adblock Plus; used it for a long time without those issues.
     
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    Use a Mac! My guess is that HP cut a deal with Microsoft to make Bing the search engine whenever they can.
     
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    Open a notepad as administrator and navigate to / open c:\windows\system32\drivers\etc\hosts (no extension on that filename)

    Add a couple lines like

    bing.com 127.0.0.1
    www.bing.com 127.0.0.1

    And Bing shall never darken your doorway again.

    Use the same trickery to suppress any sites like doubleclick and the myriad others.
     
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    greencobra NES Member

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    seriously...wouldn't doubt it, money grubbin' bastards!
     
  17. greencobra

    greencobra NES Member

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    huh? mr. pipes, i'm old, granted ahead of the curve for my group, at least I don't have to unplug anything to shut it off, lol. can you explain a little slower, please, while I go get my good glasses...i'll see it better.
     
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    O p e n a n o t e p a d a s a d m i n i s t r a t o r a n d n a v i g a t e t o / o p e n c : \ w i n d o w s \ s y s t e m 3 2 \ d r i v e r s \ e t c \ h o s t s ( n o e x t e n s i o n o n t h a t f i l e n a m e )

    (sorry, couldn't resist)

    DNS is a lookup, think of it as a "white pages" phone book for the internet. It let's you take a name like northeastshooters.com and find out it's ip address (the phone number). NES's address is 104.27.151.194.

    Whenever your computer want's to find out an address, the first palce it looks is it's own cache. The LAST time you checked for an address or northeastkittens.com it was blah blah blah.

    If it isn't found there, it checks your hosts file. So if you KNOW damned well the address of a particular site and you're confident it won't change anytime soon (or even it's an "unpublished" name like desperateglocksofboston.com) you can put the address there. It will save a few milliseconds in looking up the address. Or even more if it's one of those unpublished numbers.

    If it wasn't in your cache and it wasn't in your hosts file, NOW your computer reaches out to your DNS server, usually given to you by your internet provider. Depending on how popular the address is the DNS server in turn might have it in it's own cache or might have to ask up the line, but eventually you either get the address or you get a "wtf, Willis".

    SO, by providing a bogus address for an internet site that you NEVER wan't to go to, you ensure your computer can never get there.

    The simplest "bogus" address is 127.0.0.1, which is really the address of whatever computer you're on at the moment. "localhost".

    Apologies for the injected humor. I got a little carried away.

    SO, adding those lines to the file called "hosts" at the location I mentioned keeps your computer from ever again finding bing.com.

    The bit of notepad and administrator is because the file is usually protected so that only administrator can edit it.

    BTW, if your have access to a friend's computer, you can redirect their perfectly reasonable web sites (like northeastkittens.com) to places like "hillary2020.org". Depending on how tech savvy they are, they'll go bananas...
     
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    you sob, you made me eat all my veggies before I get dessert. [angry2] [laugh] ok, 75% sure I know what you're talking about. i'll give it a go (against my common sense [slap]) but don't be surprised if you get a pm later. one question, you're not messin' with me are you, buddy? thanks for the tip.
     
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    Not messing with you, but the other suggestions wrt removing Bing from the list of search engines and so on might be easier.

    Using hosts file IS a good technique for combating certain types of invasions.

    For instance, my employers force feeds a "company" web page as the home page on IE using Group Policy and prevents any attempts to change it. And of course the company page is forced to launch whenever I logon and the page is so bloated it takes sometimes a minute or more to load. So I just redirect the address to 127.0.0.1 and it quickly fails so I can go about my business.
     
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    The worst part about that is the fact that they are still using IE...

    The project that I’m working on is funded by a federal agency. They have standardized on IE 9 — not even IE 11, which itself is ancient. I’ve told them our site doesn’t support IE. Life is too short to develop for IE.
     
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    Not MY choice! Dictated from above. I generally use Chrome or Firefox for non work related stuff. Which I would never do at work!
     
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    Oh, I know. These types of decisions are usually made by dolts up top.

    What is so hilarious about this IE thing is that Microsoft isn’t supporting it any longer. So how they can justify standardizing on it is simply beyond me.
     
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    Use chrome, suggestions are different from site history that displays as option.
     
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    using chrome
     
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    greencobra NES Member

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    brought the computer to a friend yesterday, showed him this thread. he kept saying, "yep, uh uh, a ha, ok" and my favorite, "this should be easy." gotta love that computer lingo. we'll see. so far, so good. [cheers]
    don't even ask me what he did, my buddy is a medical researcher by profession. [laugh] bye bye bing!
     
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    Tripped over this thread (again),
    and I have something irrelevant to bring to it:

    I just installed two things on our new Windows 10 Pro desktop,
    and the (Cortana?) search box next to the Start icon in the system tray
    now uses Google on Firefox
    instead of Bing on Microsoft Edge (<= the replacement for Internet Exploder).

    1. Installed the program EdgeDeflector.

    Cortana generates URLs of the form "microsoft-edge://bing.com/yadda³...",
    instead of (say) "Google".

    And nothing handles the proprietary protocol "microsoft-edge:" except for Edge.

    Until EdgeDeflector.

    Install it, and the next time you type something into the search bar,
    the system is flummoxed -
    now youse got to choose what should service "microsoft-edge:" URLs
    (which originate from Cortana).
    You just pick EdgeDeflector to handle them instead of Edge.

    And EdgeDeflector rewrites the URL to (say) "http://bing.com/yadda³...",
    and then that gets handled by Your Favorite Browser, just like all other http:'s.

    2. Installed the Firefox add-on Bing2Google.

    When it sees an "http://bing.com/yadda³..." URL,
    it rewrites it to a "http://google.com/yadda³..." URL.

    Viola.

    When I use nosy public WiFi, and it demands my EMail address as a term of service,
    I always give it "[email protected][127.0.0.1]".
    And suddenly the business's webmaster is on his own junk mailing list.

    I may have done that to Pheasant Lane Mall.
     
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    This thread is hilarious :D Glad Mr. OP got squared away.

    It could be a lot worse... it could be IE8!
     
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    Well done sir!
     

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