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Pro gun candidate for Republican party.
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MachineHead
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I've read about her before. She's definitely a strong candidate. An American from Indian descent, a mother, supports workers but believes in a competitive free market to strengthen the economy, is anti-illegal immigration, pro 2A, and pro IDs at the voting polls.
Someone like this would give the Liberals a more narrow window in which to attack her. Think about it; how could Everytown and Milfs Demand Action attack her besides spreading bullshit lies.
Someone like this would give the Liberals a more narrow window in which to attack her. Think about it; how could Everytown and Milfs Demand Action attack her besides spreading bullshit lies.
You mean doing what they do already?
MachineHead
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Right. But she seems much more verbally articulate than Sarah Palin, for example.
Honestly, I could see her being a voice that men and women will listen to with respect to guns. The picture in post #1 and this video of her touring FN Manufacturing show an approach to firearms that needs to become normal again.
http://youtu.be/cUO0uQAp2D4
Honestly, I could see her being a voice that men and women will listen to with respect to guns. The picture in post #1 and this video of her touring FN Manufacturing show an approach to firearms that needs to become normal again.
http://youtu.be/cUO0uQAp2D4
I love her. She is very well liked down here. She's pushing for the const. carry bill we have in the senate right now and had a big hand in SC dumping common core. She would get my vote in a second.
Now if only guns and 2A issues were the big issues for 2016, but they are not. See, that's the problem. For the average American guns are an issue, but they are not THE issue. THE issue remains the economy, jobs and then foreign policy. You can have the best 2A candidate in the world but unless they can resonate on the issues that really matter to Mr and Ms America, there is going to be a problem.
namedpipes
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MachineHead
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She's pro-Constitution, anti-illegals, anti-common core, pro-2A, pro requiring IDs at the polls....yep, she's got my vote if no other candidate has better stances against anything un-American.
Ideally, it would be awesome to have a guy like General Patton take the reins, but the sissified Left will not budge on the matter.
Ideally, it would be awesome to have a guy like General Patton take the reins, but the sissified Left will not budge on the matter.
Well some of us have become single issue voters just like a lot of people who believe passionately in a particular cause. The problem is that there is no perfect candidate. There you go with the should and the should nots plus you make the base assumption that because I'm pro-2A then I must fall in line with some doctrinaire, usually conservative, position tinged frequently with Bible Belt overtones. The fact that a o lot of these people are big gun supporters are fine with me and I'll support any pro-2A candidates because that's my issue.
I have long ago forsaken that high school civics crap about voting for the best candidate. In going to vote the candidate who promotes my vested interest first and foremost and my vested interest is the 2A. It begins and ends with that...period. To those who say: "well that attitude is going to take this country to hell in a hand basket, I would say that we are already there and our ability to bear arms represent our only last true manifestation of individual liberty and freedom. We are not going to stop illegal immigration, we are going to see a wider gap between rich and poor coupled with chronic under and unemployment, Roe v Wade is law of the land so get over it, and let people alone with regard to there choice of sexual partners as long as there not raping anybody or screwing kids. Taxes are going up, a paradigm shift in gender roles and worldview is changing how men are perceived and the USofA is demographically going to be a different place with regard to the ethnicity of the people who are going to live here. The clock cannot be turned back, but we still have our guns by God, and those guns protect our other rights. The 2A is the keystone that holds the other 9 amendments of the Bill of Rights together. 2A all the way...!
I'll tolerate a bible thumping pro life, border sealing, marriage is between a man and a woman, get tough on drugs candidate because those battles, have for all practical purposes been lost, so nothing is really going to change. What can change is gun laws because many people in the middle are ambivalent and easily swayed.
Even the most die hard conservatives believe they are entitled to Social Security and Medicare just ask any geezer over 65 who tells ya he's a conservative and owns a gun. Not necessarily a Fudd. Thinks he paid into a 401 or something...failed to realize it was a tax that paid for somebody else. Probably 90% or better of the people in this country believe in some form of socialism or another even these conservative candidates.
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groundscrapers
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Probably the best candidate but lest likely to get elected. I think she is too far right on too many polarizing issues.
She's a good candidate but probably won't even get on the radar. I can't see the GOP getting behind her. In the end, it's really all about who the party leadership wants to run. That cadidate will get all the money and endorsements, big donors etc. Nominee will be Bush, Rubio, Christie, Paul or someone similar (most likely). I personally think Rand Paul would be great for 2A rights, but he may be too conservative to win a general election.
My post was not directed at you and neither was the conservative Bible-belt whatnot - Haley is the stereotypical conservative, that's all. I just don't see any reason for putting her on a pedestal just because she went to a gun museum and fired a couple of guns - plenty of candidates are pro-2A, so what makes Haley so unique and special? I fail to see how she is in any way a better candidate than, say, Rand Paul, other than being an Indian woman (I still think it's asinine that this even matters to voters but that's beside the point and, again, not directed at you). She is certainly far from being the libertarian that many on here would like to see in the White House.
This lady is now the Gov. of SC and a potential candidate for president.
Nikki Haley.
She is just "now" the gov of SC? I'm not sure why the op posted this since she's been the gov since 2010 and has been very pro gun the whole time and before being elected gov.
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Rand is very good on guns as are Rubio, Jindal, Walker, et al. There are many R's with very good 2a votes and support.
kevin9
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That's a plus in my book. The more the MSM and moonbat left attack, the more I like them.Didn't take long:
And please don't give me the "too conservative to win" crap. That's exactly the kind of thinking that gave us McFail and Mittens and put Barry on Pennsylvania Ave for 8 freaking years. [/rant]
groundscrapers
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The more conservative they are the less electable they are because they appeal to a smaller group. They need someone who is hard on the financial side, respects the constitution, but bends on stuff like gay marriage, abortion etc... You need the independent vote as well as some (D)'s to win any presidential election.
Sounds like you just describe Mitt and he lost.
W was pro life, pro marriage (what marriage has always been), wasn't the best on budget issues and won twice. Things vary, each election is different.
I respectfully disagree. People who have spent most of their time in the NE tend to forget that the majority of the country is conservative. The problem we had with Obama is that the media freaking loved (loves) him and shoved him down America's throat as the best candidate ever. The fact that the Republicans put forward losers like McCain and mittens didn't help at all. If the Republicans would actually get behind a decent conservative candidate, they could take the white house during the next election. Instead they're going to push a well-connected candidate like Bush and we're going to be stuck in Hillary hell for 8 years.
It is true that, generally, most of America is conservative. One major problem is that the conservative base states don't pull enough weight in the electoral college. If the election were shear popular vote it would factor in more. That being said, it's turnout that matters most. Mobilize the base as they say. The Obama campaign has to be given credit for this and it paid off. He may be a douche bag, but he got his minions to vote for him. He even lost the independent vote in almost every swing state in 2012 and still won the election.
You nailed it. If there was a break down by counties America would be America but not Amerika. Even New York would be conservative if you seperated New York City from it, but the Electoral College numbers just don't add up. You have to look where the population centers are, and what key states are really involved in the success of electing a president, same for the House of Representatives, given the way districts are frequently gerrymandered.
Generally speaking though, I honestly think most Americans want some kind of government involvement in their lives more than they did 30 or 40 years ago, whether it be health care, old age pensions, college tuition subsidies whatever. Big government is here to stay and the illegal immigration problem is here to stay. There is no satisfactory solution to that simply because the same businessmen that we associate standing up for traditional GOP values rely on undocumented workers in their respective sectors, whether we are talking construction, food services, janitorial service, meat packing especially in the eleven western states, but now everywhere and increasingly in the southeast and northeast. WOD, same deal, it's a failure that both sides win big time from a profit perspective, prisons are a growth industry too so let's keep the high incarcerate rates through private prisons and prison industries which outsource to the private sector, might cost the taxpayers, but that's not the point, somebody's making money which is the point because it is all about the money and vested interests that maintain the status quo. Nobody really cares as long as they get theirs, and by that I mean the people of affluence and influence in our country, the ones that contribute big time to political candidates to ensure that their voices are heard. Lip service is paid to a lot of things, but in the end the reason the status quo remains the status quo is because somebody or many somebodies are making too much money. Oh sure there is social change, gay rights, but gay rights happened not so much because of gays protesting in the streets but because of wealthy and influential gays and lesbians in the media who after decades were finally able to influence public opinion, I have no problems with the Gay Rights Movement because I believe in MYOB same for abortion. It's not going away. If you don't believe it's right, don't have one. Sometimes I think these social issues are, for whatever reason, brought to the forefront as diversions from some of the real issues that face us, which revolve around the destruction of the middle class and our economic system. You might say: "Markie aren't you contradicting yourself? Not really, because the power elites, the movers and shakers and money makers will do what they can to ensure that they continue to make money, and it doesn't really matter if they have a two class society or not. Actually a Roman type bread and circuses type society might really suit their needs quite well, as a populace that can easily be bought off on the dole, is a populace that can easily be controlled for a variety of things, everybody is talking about political control, but I see it more as economic control, is it any accident that Bloomberg and Soros are so anti-gun? A serf population provides a cheap source of labor when the need arises and also a source of consumers who can purchase a variety of goods and services with .gov dole money. An armed populace is a threat...perhaps my observation is too simplistic for some, not motivated by tinfoil I can assure you as theree is not, IMO, a secret cartel that meets and dreams this stuff up, but more of a confluence of events and how greed and human nature works and like minded individuals respond to profit and greed. It just sort of evolves...guns are about the only things that do empower us, and let's keep that in perspective.
groundscrapers
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But remember who he ran against... Gore and then follow that up with Kerry. He was the lesser of 2 evils in many peoples eyes in both of those elections. Put a stronger dem in the race and you will have an interesting race. I think the country has become so polarized in the last 10 years that you need to span the great divide. Without someone floating in the middle nothing gets done because both parties dig their heels in and gridlock it all.
Don't forget all obama's lies, I mean promises. To cut the federal budget, go line by line over regulations and eliminate bad ones, no raise taxes on those making under $250k by "one dime" (broke it in less than a month, feb 09), HC hears on cspan, be open and transperant, etc. Stupid people believed it. He can't tell the truth ever.
MachineHead
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Unfortunately, it's the same Patton. Forgive me; I meant "someone with the resolve and of General Patton while giving his speech to the Third Army" taking the reins.
No leader is perfect, but I'd stand behind one that tells it like it is, keeps his word, and fights to keep us at the top of the food chain.
On a side note, I think it's odd that one can become the Commander-in-Chief without actually having ever served in the military. There are times when diplomacy is overdue where parabellum would have been right on time.
CWulf
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The wife and I are pretty much done with Massachusetts. The ridiculous politics, gun laws and all this freakin snow has pushed us over the edge. As soon as our son is out of high school we are gone... South Carolina is near the top of the list of potential destinations.
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Bzzzt wrong answer. I support candidates based on a combination of their 2A stance and chance of actually getting elected. Taxes - don't care. Abortion - don't care. Education - don't care. Thats why they call us single issue voters.
All I need to know is that she isn't a democrat, isn't particularly friendly with the ideas that the democrats push for, and she'll be bringing two boobs into the Whitehouse without having to appoint anybody to her cabinet.
