Pro 2A Police Chief receives "re-education letter".

Bureaucracies at all levels of government that peck away at your rights are much more powerful than martial law.

The “gun violence” as a public health crisis is another leftist tactic to erode rights further, and it’s another example of a national campaign of cut and paste arguments being spread to get the foot in the door to allow local boards of health to start with gun regulations. Just like the most recent legislation they passed here. Not a single word of that legislation was written by any one of the Massachusetts marxists that put it forth. It was handed to them on a thumb drive by some national Marxist group.
 
hate to say it, but Ware COP is not pro-2a in the slightest. I don't even think he is 2A aware.

He praised the "ghost guns registration" and making "glock switches illegal" but "fact of the matter is that they missed the concept of a strong gun law by not holding the criminals accountable"

I shot him a reply mentioning that the laws already on the books that require the former and the latter is already illegal, and have not gotten a reply.
 
hate to say it, but Ware COP is not pro-2a in the slightest. I don't even think he is 2A aware.

He praised the "ghost guns registration" and making "glock switches illegal" but "fact of the matter is that they missed the concept of a strong gun law by not holding the criminals accountable"

I shot him a reply mentioning that the laws already on the books that require the former and the latter is already illegal, and have not gotten a reply.

He's a Massachusetts chief of police, loudly and publicly advocating against the passage of an odious gun law.

MA has about 350 other chiefs of police who chose NOT to do that. I'm sure it made their lives easier; they don't seem to have received a similar state ethics nastygram, for example.

I'm sure Ware CoP's got JBT tendencies, like most high-ranking cops, and I don't delude myself into thinking he's some champion of civil rights... but I'll give credit where it's due. He took the right stance here. The State is hassling him over it. That makes him okay in my book, on this issue.
 
He's a Massachusetts chief of police, loudly and publicly advocating against the passage of an odious gun law.

MA has about 350 other chiefs of police who chose NOT to do that. I'm sure it made their lives easier; they don't seem to have received a similar state ethics nastygram, for example.

I'm sure Ware CoP's got JBT tendencies, like most high-ranking cops, and I don't delude myself into thinking he's some champion of civil rights... but I'll give credit where it's due. He took the right stance here. The State is hassling him over it. That makes him okay in my book, on this issue.

can't find the post on FB, nor the context, so publicly, I guess? Loudly? it isn't on FB anymore. I'm still holding out hope for a reply that goes in the right direction, but without seeing the posts, I'm on the fence.
 
can't find the post on FB, nor the context, so publicly, I guess? Loudly? it isn't on FB anymore. I'm still holding out hope for a reply that goes in the right direction, but without seeing the posts, I'm on the fence.

One of the fifteen or twenty rabid threads about this bill had a LOT of posts about the Ware CoP and his statements, in real time, as they happened. Just because you don't remember it doesn't mean it didn't happen.

1727400071265.png
 
One of the fifteen or twenty rabid threads about this bill had a LOT of posts about the Ware CoP and his statements, in real time, as they happened. Just because you don't remember it doesn't mean it didn't happen.

View attachment 921592
not a matter of me remembering it - I never saw them to begin with. I want to read for myself and draw conclusions from that, because his email to me seems like the kind of statements that would get someone delegated to boot-licker fudd land in these forums normally.

edit: I'm not on facebook, although I do have an account with zero pictures, posts, or friends specifically for listing things on marketplace. I also haven't found any screen grabs from people, and the wayback machine

edit2 : found em, reading, will post here for reference. Anything in this font is my words, not theirs


FIRST POST

The Ware Police Department would like to bring an important matter to your attention: the proposed anti-gun Bill currently under consideration (HD 4420, An Act Modernizing Firearms Laws). We understand that this state-level legislation has raised concerns among law-abiding citizens who value their Second Amendment rights.
We recognize that the right to bear arms is a fundamental aspect of our nation's history and an essential component of personal and collective security. As members of the police force, we are committed to upholding the law and defending the rights of our community members.
A plethora of blatantly unconstitutional proposals litter this travesty of a Bill, too many to mention here; however, of particular egregiousness is the criminalization of carrying firearms in certain so-called “prohibited locations”, including businesses and private properties, EVEN WHILE HOLDING A VALID LICENSE TO CARRY. Not even off-duty police officers will be exempted from this appalling mandate.
Gun Free zones have been proven to have no effect on stopping crime, in fact they embolden criminals to seek out these areas as soft targets of opportunity, where their chances of meeting resistance will be minimal.
This Bill does not address criminals. Rather it focuses on making criminals out of law-abiding citizens and further hampers police agencies from combating true crime.
We believe that public input and engagement are crucial in shaping legislation that reflects the diverse perspectives and concerns of our citizens. Therefore, we encourage you, the citizens of the Commonwealth of Massachusetts, who have a long and storied history of throwing off the chains of our oppressors (let not this tradition die in the hands of our generation), to actively participate in the democratic process by voicing your opinions and taking appropriate actions to safeguard your rights.
Here are a few ways you can make a difference:
1. Educate yourself: Familiarize yourself with the details of the proposed anti-gun Bill. Read the legislation, study its potential impact, and understand its implications for your rights as a responsible gun owner.
2. Communicate with your elected representatives: Reach out to your local, state, and federal representatives to express your concerns about the Bill. Write letters, and make phone calls to ensure your voice is heard.
3. Encourage open dialogue: Foster constructive conversations about gun ownership, emphasizing responsible practices and the importance of preserving individual liberties. Engage in respectful discussions with friends, family, and neighbors to promote understanding and awareness.
4. Stay informed and mobilize: Keep yourself updated on the progress of the bill and its potential impact on your rights. Stay connected with local gun rights organizations and be prepared to mobilize if necessary.
Remember, your involvement in shaping legislation that impacts your rights is vital. By actively participating and voicing your concerns, you contribute to the democratic process and help ensure that legislation is fair, balanced, and respects the rights of responsible citizens.
The Ware Police Department encourages respectful and law-abiding civic engagement on this matter. We are committed to maintaining the safety and security of our community while upholding the rights enshrined in our Constitution.
Thank you for your attention and active participation.
-Ware PD
I removed an embedded link at the end for the ease of reading, just led to the 141 pages of H4420 which was replaced by H4885

SECOND POST

UPDATE ON HD 4420, AN ACT MODERNIZING FIREARMS LAWS:
After a series of “closed-door meetings”, the House has slithered away from its plan to smuggle the anti-gun Bill under our noses this summer, resetting their sights on the fall session and hoping that the concerns of their Constituents will fade away with the passing of time.
However, the Senate has now decreed that it is also “intending to do something” about gun control by taking matters into its own hands and crafting a SECOND potentially nefarious and unjust Bill.
Remain vigilant! We cannot allow partisan politics and corrupt bureaucracies to curb-stomp the liberties that generations before us fought so hard to preserve. As we’ve seen, our collective voices can bring about real change and compel the House and the Senate to prioritize the will of the Commonwealth over anything else.
Let us come together as a true Constitutional Republic and show our representatives, who are bound to uphold the rules established in that Constitution, that we will not rest until this nauseating Bill is annihilated before it is enacted into law.
While we recognize the importance of addressing gun violence and ensuring public safety, it is essential to do so without infringing upon the rights of law-abiding citizens. Instead of jeopardizing the Constitutional rights of responsible gun owners, we urge Congress to pursue solutions that target the root causes of violence, such as improving access to mental health services, reshaping and healing our societal infrastructure, and preventing repeat offenders from walking the streets with utter impunity.
Massachusetts is the proud birthplace of a united national resistance, and considering that those in power have no shame in publicly proclaiming their great wish for this Bill to become the model for every State in the Nation, the time to act is now.
Therefore, we encourage all Citizens of the Commonwealth who value their Constitutional rights to join us and persist in voicing their concerns to their elected representatives. Here are some suggestions on how you can proceed to make a difference:
1. Continue Contacting Your Representatives: Reach out to your Members of Congress via phone, email, or social media. Don’t relent! Express your concerns about the anti-gun bill and stress the urgency of addressing this critical issue. Personalized messages have a more significant impact, so share your personal experiences or thoughts on why this Bill troubles you.
2. Utilize Social Media: Leverage the power of social media to raise awareness and mobilize others who share your concerns. Use appropriate hashtags and encourage respectful discussions with friends and followers about joining the cause and the importance of protecting our Constitutional rights. Social media can be a powerful tool to raise awareness and generate support.
3. Encourage Others to Get Involved: Talk to your friends, family, colleagues, and neighbors about the impact of this issue and inspire them to make their voices heard. A collective effort is more likely to bring about meaningful change.
We firmly believe that safeguarding our communities and upholding our Constitutional Rights are not mutually exclusive goals. By continuing to oppose the anti-gun Bill and advocating for proper solutions, we can make a lasting impact on public safety without infringing upon the rights of law-abiding citizens.
Let us join together to defend our Second Amendment rights and protect the Freedom that defines our Nation!
Thank you for your attention and active participation.
ENSE PETIT PLACIDAM SUB LIBERTATE QUIETEM
"By the sword we seek peace, but peace only under liberty."
*Disclaimer: The views and opinions expressed in this post are those of the Ware Police Department and do not necessarily reflect the views or opinions of the Town of Ware or any entities they represent.
 

Attachments

  • ware ma PD.PNG
    ware ma PD.PNG
    113.8 KB · Views: 2
  • ware ma pd 2.PNG
    ware ma pd 2.PNG
    114.8 KB · Views: 4
Last edited:
Because my memory sucks … was Ware still vocally against the bill after the “exemption “ was put in?
 
Because my memory sucks … was Ware still vocally against the bill after the “exemption “ was put in?

I'm not sure, but I'd imagine the state wouldn't be hassling him if he'd come around and kissed the ring with enough tongue.
 
Typical GOAL looking like a bunch of clowns while trying to put their spin on issues. "re-education"?? Hardly. Saying it was due to his opposition of the bill is twisting the facts. Was the Chief targeted because of his opinion? It's likely he was. Was he slapped on the wrist for doing something he should have known not to do...yes. GOAL could use this and other examples of the gun bill nonsense to help the cause but instead come off as an old man yelling at clouds.
 
Because my memory sucks … was Ware still vocally against the bill after the “exemption “ was put in?
Looks to me like they were....give credit where credit is due here. If he got a nastygram...Im in his corner. One dude, one department...they will be ostracized. Back them.

I will pull an M1911 here and say....the "ghost gun" shit and whatever is them playing the moderate game. No offense, that I'm willing to believe that 90% of MA people and 50% of MA's stupid gun owners are for serializing legislation. Why do you think the media constantly talks about only this issue with this bill and ignores the plethora of other onerous shit. They know people are retarded up there and half of gun owners are either libs, or fuddy as fxck.

Even my Dad is for serializing...because he feels the gangs and illegals will use it to make guns and commit crimes. His feeling is they are importing illegals in there like mad, they don't prosecute them for anything, and eventually it will get out of control.

That said, he is too old and frail to raise a pistol in his defense anymore and he's goddamn scared most likely. He is not for the bill in any way, but he could live with "ghost gun" shit....and that is probably a lot of people in MA. They are deluded into thinking crime and criminals won't cross borders because of dumb laws, and it will make them safer. Its just the pols making them feel safe, when the opposite is true.

Like Picton said...350 other towns, thousands of cops and 350 chiefs, however many useless state cops you guys have, went silent on the issue, after MACOPA deep throated the Healey's ring.
 
Last edited:
Looks to me like they were....give credit where credit is due here. If he got a nastygram...Im in his corner. One dude, one department...they will be ostracized. Back them.

I will pull an M1911 here and say....the "ghost gun" shit and whatever is them playing the moderate game. No offense, that I'm willing to believe that 90% of MA people and 50% of MA's stupid gun owners are for serializing legislation. Why do you think the media constantly talks about only this issue with this bill and ignores the plethora of other onerous shit. They know people are retarded up there and half of gun owners are either libs, or fuddy as fxck.

Even my Dad is for serializing...because he feels the gangs and illegals will use it to make guns and commit crimes. His feeling is they are importing illegals in there like mad, they don't prosecute them for anything, and eventually it will get out of control.

That said, he is too old and frail to raise a pistol in his defense anymore and he's goddamn scared most likely. He is not for the bill in any way, but he could live with "ghost gun" shit....and that is probably a lot of people in MA. They are deluded into thinking crime and criminals won't cross borders because of dumb laws, and it will make them safer. Its just the pols making them feel safe, when the opposite is true.

Like Picton said...350 other towns, thousands of cops and 350 chiefs, however many useless state cops you guys have, went silent on the issue, after MACOPA deep throated the Healey's ring.
I live in an upper middle class town that was normally crime free. In the last year, imported Healy voters have been arrested for murder, a drive by, and illegal drugs. Two cars were stolen out of a driveway down the street.

Healy and Campbell’s efforts to move crime out of the city to spread them across the state is producing the desired results.
 
Back
Top Bottom