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Pressure to agree to PTP vs Trial/complete exoneration

Discussion in 'Comm2a' started by Rat187, Aug 10, 2019.

  1. cockpitbob

    cockpitbob NES Member

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    I bet lots here are learning the same as me. I've heard of a CWOF but never heard of a PTP. My thanks to those posting that don't have to preface what they say with IANAL.
     
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    What I was NOT told about PTP was after you accept 'the deal' your name gets published in the papers along with the charges. Getting charged under the Remy Law is like being a 'snackbar' rendered to a black house in Eygpt, done in secret, you one day just disappear. Eff that
     
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    drgrant Moderator NES Member

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    If you've been arrested for it none of that matters, "they" know. Friend of mine got popped for CUI and it appeared in the police log or some shit in the paper pretty quickly.

    -Mike
     
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    Nothing published anywhere on the accusation & arrest for the last 17 months. This charge is hatched in secrecy you go to the 'big house' in secrecy and if you don't have family and friends with $$$$$$$, you plea out.

    Not familiar with CUI...sorry
     
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    Carrying Under The Influence
     
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    Remy? You are sooooooooo screwed.

    Any victory you get is good, but you are sooooooo screwed.

    Remy, Lautenberg, yes or no have you stopped beating your wife..... that shit never goes away
     
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    I'm not married... The shite has gone away

    LOL....they told me that Stateside after I got my orders for Vietnam, told me that when I disembarked from the ship in Vung Tau, they told me that when I arrived at Brigade base camp, they told me that....
     
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    Well the fat lady has sung: After 20 months of fighting and I got my day in court. Finally I got face with my accuser in a court of law. I overheard the DA uttering the words the "witness is dispositive". WTF is Dispostive ? It sounded like good anyways.

    Also I heard of 'there are 5th Amendment problems', "are you invoking the martial privilege" ? A lawyer was appointed and the attorney explained to her what that meant, I guess her hearing the words purger and prosecuted in the same sentence did it. The judge brought her back into the courtroom and made her announce her decision to invoke the 5th ton the whole court, I loved it.

    The Commonwealth could not proceed, since there was no evidence, Judge dismisses both charges. Beating the 'Remy law' fairly is no mean feat. The deck is stacked against you and they don't care much about your rights.

    I learned quite a bit during this ordeal
     
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    So you ended up with a dismissal, which is exactly what you would have had with the PTP.
     
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    Well it's not the same IMHO If I took the easy way out, a plea, my name gets published in paper along with the charges and I'm on a leash for a period of time. As far as I can see I managed to accomplish the mission and win a complete vindication. It don't get better
     
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    Congratulations for persevering.
     
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    This total victory was sweet, Thanks for the thumbs up
     
  13. drgrant

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    So things like a PTP aren't equivalent to a CWOF or whatever? The usual deal on these things is they try to get people to CWOF out.

    -Mike
     

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