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Police: Man illegally owned 12 guns, 3,000 ammunition rounds

Discussion in 'General Discussion' started by Coda, Jul 15, 2019.

  1. robjax

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    I didn't read where it said he stole the guns. If stolen then obviously possession of stolen firearms.

    How are "his" firearms stolen?

    "State Police said Sunday that 53-year-old Stephen Buckman was arrested and his firearms, ammunition and assorted pills were seized."
     

  2. Glockster30

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    Holbrook man charged with cache of illegal guns, drug possession
     
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  3. qqac

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    I suppose it depends on how you view buying fenced goods. Are you a bonafide owner if you buy stolen items, as long as you paid some amount of money? Based on the obliterated serial numbers and the fact he had no "legal" way of purchasing, the chances are the guns were stolen at some point and sold on the black market, ending up with this guy. But that is just circumstantial--no way of proving to a criminal law standard, thus no charges for that.
     
  4. robjax

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  5. robjax

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    I agree with your statement because of infringements and such there is no way to legally transfer a firearm with a defaced serial number.

    But to me licensing and registration of firearms are infringements. I'll leave it at that.
     
  6. Jason Flare

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    Does this apply to alcohol dealers?

    How about gun manufacturers?


    People selling drugs are not trying to kill their customers.

    The customer has to actually abuse the drug.
     
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  7. Coda

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    I don’t know about that, most gun owners I know have more than 2 or 3 guns. But with all the 80%’s and guns that are not “registered” it is impossible to get a good handle on the actual numbers.

    You got me on the car guy one, I have 4 (that are registered), but rarely drive a couple of them. But I also have gun’s NIB that I have never shot. Now you got me thinking, I’ve got too much stuff.
     
  8. Koolmoose

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    Reframe your thinking. This is yet another example of the total failure of gun control laws and the idea that UBC’s will keep guns out of criminal’s hands. You’ll feel better.
     
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    No firearm is ever illegal!!

    #2A
     
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  10. greencobra

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    oh yeah, me too. but all gun owners I know are like me, gun nuts.
     
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  11. Dennis in MA

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    Based on the original article - NO! I would argue that MA licensing system for guns in the home is highly illegal.

    Upon further inspection the first article is thin on details and he’s a POS.


    Oh and maybe the pills were bullets and he’s a reloader. (I’d rather hear “shotty” 800 times than have someone refer to a bullet as a pill.)
     
  12. drgrant

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    Would be a shit idea for a law given that there's no clearing house for identification of stolen guns. An idiot thief could trade in a stolen gun at a gun shop for cash, etc.

    ETA: This is the reason, imho, why defacing or possessing a gun with a defaced SN is a crime, because basically a gun with the sn obliterated is saying "hey im stolen!!!" etc. It removes "benefit of the doubt" partially....
     
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  13. jpk

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    I would argue that one could make SR# optional for original purchaser.....

    At least if we start there then by "settling" for current schema wrt nada for home brew and ser# for commercial it seems reasonable/we have something to negotiate.

    Had a convo with an ignorant lefty recently.....she argued that guns should all be registered

    I countered by saying that I thought I should be able to walk into my local hardware store, plunk down cash and walk out 10 mins later no questions/paperwork asked with a belt fed mg and a couple hundred rounds of linked ammo.......

    After she picked up her jaw she said that her crazy husbands positions on guns sounded much more reasonable........

    Now, with that.....I've not only saved her marriage but I've provided her with perspective
     
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  14. Peicemaker

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    The libertarian in me says "The drug war is bullshit, all gun laws are unconstitutional and the guy hurt nobody (besides himself with the smack) in the commission of these so called crimes.". The pragmatist in me says "Meh. Dude broke the law which is what it is, unjust or not. PSGWSP.".
     
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    I thought the rule was 3k rounds for every gun. Seems he has too many guns and not enough ammo.
     
  16. JayMcB

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    what exactly is unlawful ammunition? reporter is a moron...

    is there any therapeutic use of heroin?
     
  17. commodon

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    In the Commonwealth of MA the possession of ammunition without having an LTC or FID is frowned upon :(
     
  18. JayMcB

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    That makes the possession unlawful, but not the inert object itself isn't.
     
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    Beat. Came here to post this:

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    Very true!!
     
  22. commodon

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    Such is true and agreeably the story/article is poorly written like most are
     
  23. Mesatchornug

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    Yes.

    Heroin was developed to help people get off opium. Now we use methadone to help them get off heroin. It has the same palliative effects as any other opioid. For a person seeking to manage pain, whether legitimately or not, heroin could be a viable choice.

    Of course, the question is as valid as "is there a therapeutic use of" alcohol? Nicotine? Which is, in effect, the same as asking "why do you need a" <insert class of firearm here>?

    The answer is the same in all cases: in America we're not in the habit of legislating people to their needs; that's not what freedom is about.
     

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