Please explain this to me like I'm 5

jkelly1229 said:
I hate their website with an undying passion to the point where i want them to go out of business

Swear to god it feels like an epeleptic seizure every time i go there
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What is the hate based on? Visual presentaton, color scheme, ordering functionality or other?
 
1sern said:
Like you're 5? Okay. Well if you save up your milk money then you can buy a Nighthawk version to protect you from a bully who tries taking the milk money you no longer have.
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This is called "Shelf builder's dillema". You have a bunch of wood, so you use the wood to build shelves to keep the wood off the ground at which point you no longer need shelves to store wood because you don't have any. This was described in one of the comics; not sure which but it wasn't Dilbert.
 
Hey For all those that can.......
But I look at those and keep seeing the confiscation that happened during Katrina
Then look at my multiple $600 guns
 
1. 99.99% of all shooters would never be able to take advantage of any increase in accuracy, real or perceived , that these mega dollar pistols might or might not offer.
2. A well made 1911 from a reputable manufacturer could probably be warmed over by someone like Business End Customs to be 99.99% as good as the mega dollar 2011.
3. 99.99% of all statistics are made up on the spot.

Chris
 
Executive said:
1. 99.99% of all shooters would never be able to take advantage of any increase in accuracy, real or perceived , that these mega dollar pistols might or might not offer.
2. A well made 1911 from a reputable manufacturer could probably be warmed over by someone like Business End Customs to be 99.99% as good as the mega dollar 2011.
3. 99.99% of all statistics are made up on the spot.

Chris
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You had me until your 4th point
 
watchman said:
Because there are those that can.....and those who can not. For those who ask .. they can not.
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Yes, but if I can. I'm just going to buy a real Nighthawk.

Not a $1500 Springfield with $3000 of Nighthawk upgrades.

Note - you wouldn't do this just too get a double stack gun. Any Nighthawk can get upgraded to a 2011 style gun. (For $800)
 
Executive said:
1. 99.99% of all shooters would never be able to take advantage of any increase in accuracy, real or perceived , that these mega dollar pistols might or might not offer.
2. A well made 1911 from a reputable manufacturer could probably be warmed over by someone like Business End Customs to be 99.99% as good as the mega dollar 2011.
3. 99.99% of all statistics are made up on the spot.

Chris
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Part of the appeal is in the "man jewelry" aspect.

I've owned Wilsons, Nighthawks, Baers, Brazos, and Dan Wesson, as well as a few Colts through the years.

My Dan Wesson shoots as well as any of them, except for the Brazos Custom. Though the aesthetics of the Dan Wesson aren't as good because its machining is simpler, though still very clean.
The Brazos was in a league of its own in the cleanness of its machining and the smoothness of its function.

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AllaSnackbah said:
Some people still think the Springfield Armory brand is synonymous with quality.
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Some of them are. The Professional Series are made in the Springfield custom shop and are some of the most proven handguns you can buy. I don't remember the details, but back when these guns were chosen for the FBI HRT, the torture test was pretty extreme. You can still buy theses guns, though you will pay $4000+ for them.
 
AllaSnackbah said:
Some people still think the Springfield Armory brand is synonymous with quality.
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SA isn't all junk, I'm pretty happy with my vickers masterclass. But a lot of their cheaper 1911s are definitely sketchmo land, people are better off buying a BUL or a MRI 1911 under a grand or so.
 
drgrant said:
SA isn't all junk, I'm pretty happy with my vickers masterclass. But a lot of their cheaper 1911s are definitely sketchmo land, people are better off buying a BUL or a MRI 1911 under a grand or so.
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I’ve been pretty happy with my sig 1911’s.
 
dcmdon said:
Some of them are. The Professional Series are made in the Springfield custom shop and are some of the most proven handguns you can buy. I don't remember the details, but back when these guns were chosen for the FBI HRT, the torture test was pretty extreme. You can still buy theses guns, though you will pay $4000+ for them.
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This must have been before 1982 when the glock 17 was released.
 
AJK129 said:
Is the prodigy known for its reliability though?
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The early ones. From what I gather the cerakote was too thick and binding the slide rails and along with a slightly undersized chamber was a recipe for ftf. Thats been resolved on later ones. Also the right side screw for the optic plate was too long and hit the extractor causing low tension.
Also fixed on newer ones.
Havent had any function issues.
Crappy trigger is upgraded. 2 piece guide rod swapped out for a dawson tool less.
 
silversquirrel said:
The early ones. From what I gather the cerakote was too thick and binding the slide rails and along with a slightly undersized chamber was a recipe for ftf. Thats been resolved on later ones. Also the right side screw for the optic plate was too long and hit the extractor causing low tension.
Also fixed on newer ones.
Havent had any function issues.
Crappy trigger is upgraded. 2 piece guide rod swapped out for a dawson tool less.
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I wanted a prodigy. I passed and after a few months later I pulled the trigger on a staccato. No regrets
 
chris_1001 said:
I wanted a prodigy. I passed and after a few months later I pulled the trigger on a staccato. No regrets
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Maybe ill trade up someday. I was looking for a commander size single stack 1911 in 9mm and stumbled on the Prodigy. I liked the grip.

That compact Staccato CS with the small grip size and alloy frame sure looks sweet. Love the DLC finish. A nice carry gun. Almost as light as a G19.
 
silversquirrel said:
Maybe ill trade up someday. I was looking for a commander size single stack 1911 in 9mm and stumbled on the Prodigy. I liked the grip.

That compact Staccato CS with the small grip size and alloy frame sure looks sweet. Love the DLC finish. A nice carry gun. Almost as light as a G19.
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The prodigy grip was was why I passed. It as sharp and dug into my palm
 
I'm trying to figure out why people spend $5k+ on a pistol that isnt like a 1 of 10 or killed a important person or something along those lines.

Bul or tangfolio is the deepest I'd ever go on a pistol
 
But you all have to agree that it’s super fun to totally outshoot the guy in the next stall with the Gucci 2011 with your bone stock Glock or whatever equivalent. 😉. Just saying…
 
DeadEyeDan said:
But you all have to agree that it’s super fun to totally outshoot the guy in the next stall with the Gucci 2011 with your bone stock Glock or whatever equivalent. 😉. Just saying…
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Or when they have staccatos and you have a glock and theres a stage that involves having to put your pistol back together :cool:
 
chris_1001 said:
I’ve been pretty happy with my sig 1911’s.
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Sig is a whole other ballgame. SA = Springfield Armory.

WRT sig ive seen good ones and other ones that were dumpster fires, but ill be honest that i haven't handled a ton of them overall. Their sales # must not be that brisk though. But that means very little in terms of real world quality.
 
AllaSnackbah said:
This must have been before 1982 when the glock 17 was released.
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I get and agree with your joke.

It's funny how even now some "elite" units love their Gucci 1911s.

I LOVE my 1911s, but if I knew I was going to be in a gunfight with a handgun, I'd bring my G34.

I was downtown Boston a couple of years ago and some of the "Elite Transit Police Tactical Team" were hanging around peacocking. They all had custom 1911s in thigh rigs.
 
DeadEyeDan said:
But you all have to agree that it’s super fun to totally outshoot the guy in the next stall with the Gucci 2011 with your bone stock Glock or whatever equivalent. 😉. Just saying…
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I was at an IDPA event where Dave Sevigney showed up without a gun. The Glock rep handed him a brand new 34 and a pile of mags and he went on to win the match. Ha.

Ernie Langdon did the same thing with a new Beretta 92 back in the early days of IDPA, circa 1999.
 
dcmdon said:
I get and agree with your joke.

It's funny how even now some "elite" units love their Gucci 1911s.

I LOVE my 1911s, but if I knew I was going to be in a gunfight with a handgun, I'd bring my G34.

I was downtown Boston a couple of years ago and some of the "Elite Transit Police Tactical Team" were hanging around peacocking. They all had custom 1911s in thigh rigs.
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What elite units?

I know a couple of our "elite" swat teams had staccato 2011's for about 6 months out here, i think they're all back to/going back to glock now.
 
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