I see what you are saying. I am not sure about any statute in CT regarding this. I know that LEO's can use multiple avenues to enforce private property requests. Great point. Thanks!
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Got a link to the bar carry thing? There's nothing in the laws about it and what the state has said is the you "should not" carry in those places, but that doesn't make it law. Same for carrying to work or any place that is posted "no guns". Again, not law.
Got a link to leaving a gun in your car? Never seen anything in the actual LAWS that you can't leave a gun (in any condition) in your car beyond needing the state permit for legal transportation.
Dredging up an old thread, but the statement above appears to be incorrect. See this link:
http://www.cga.ct.gov/2005/rpt/2005-R-0489.htm
This is a 2005 analysis by the Office of Legislative Research, but the relevant law has not
changed since 2005.
> CARRYING GUNS ON THE JOB By: Veronica Rose, Principal Analyst
>
> You want to know if an employer may prohibit an employee with a gun permit from carrying
> his handgun on the job.
>
> Yes. By law, a person who holds a handgun permit does not have the right to carry handguns
> on any property where handguns are otherwise prohibited by law or by the person who owns
> or exercises control over the property (CGS § 29-28(e)).
Link to CGS § 29-28(e): http://www.cga.ct.gov/2007/pub/Chap529.htm#Sec29-28.htm
The text of CGS § 29-28(e) tracks the answer appearing above.
Note that a violation of CGS § 29-28(e) appears to be more than simple "trespassing" -- it appears to be "against the law." The penalty for carrying where possession or carrying has been "prohibited by the person who owns or exercises control over such premises" in violation of CGS § 29-28(e) appears in CGS § 29-37: http://www.cga.ct.gov/2007/pub/Chap529.htm#Sec29-37.htm
> Sec. 29-37. Penalties. (a) Any person violating any provision of
> section 29-28 or 29-31 shall be fined not more than five
> hundred dollars or imprisoned not more than three years or both, and
> any pistol or revolver found in the possession of any
> person in violation of any of said provisions shall be forfeited.
Connecticut law allows CCW in your home and at your work, but only if you own the business. That's when you are "the person who owns or exercises control over such premises."
This is exacly why people need to read and understand the state laws pertaining to carrying/possesion of firearms and not make their own inaccurate assumptions b/c Joe Schmoe down the block said so!![[smile]](/xen/styles/default/xenforo/smilies.vb/001.gif "Smile [smile]")
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I'm assuming that kjt's simply being unpleasant.
kjt, I stand corrected, I thought the law read differently, so thanks for bringing that up. I'd like to do more research into this, past prosecutions (if any), case law, etc. to see how this is applied, because it's a little vague in the wording.
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Well, after looking at the statute, I can only conclude that I'm wrong.
It looks like if you carry into a place where its prohibited by the owner, you could be on the hook for a fine not to exceed $500 and/or prison not to exceed 3 yrs. Hmm
Re the Meadow's situation. There were no visible signs. The only place the policy was shown was on the back of the ticket, written in print too small to see with a bare 40 yr old eye. It doen't change things, but its just interesting that I could be legally bound by such fine print.
It looks like if you carry into a place where its prohibited by the owner, you could be on the hook for a fine not to exceed $500 and/or prison not to exceed 3 yrs. Hmm
Re the Meadow's situation. There were no visible signs. The only place the policy was shown was on the back of the ticket, written in print too small to see with a bare 40 yr old eye. It doen't change things, but its just interesting that I could be legally bound by such fine print.
The biggest restricted areas in CT, IMHO, are the indian casinos, like Foxwoods, Mohegan, etc... since these are all tribal properties, your CT license literally "does not apply" there. I think the tribal regs have an exemption for sworn state level LE, but that's about it.
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Your question is hard to answer on a general basis and would hinge on the facts and circumstances of a given situation. Merely possessing a firearm in your home and being intoxicated doe not, in and of itself, justify a permit revocation by the DPS as one can imagine. When you say "refuse a sobriety test" are you addressing a situation where a LEO asks you to take one in your home or while you are operating a motor vehicle? Clearly, there would be no justification for an LEO to ask for a sobriety test if you are intoxicated in the confines of your home. Although one could imagine that an LEO might try to take this step if he/she was responding to a domestic disturbance or other threatening/breach of peace/etc/ incident at a residence and wanted to acquire further evidence of erratic behavior as part of that investigation. But the mere refusal, while in one's home, would certainly not give rise to a basis for permit revocation. A later prosecution and conviction of a felony and/or a number misdemeanors through otherwise obtained evidence could very well provide justification of a permit revocation.
As to a vehicular operator situation, again, the mere refusal to take a test would carry with it motor vehicle suspension ramifications but would not in and of itself provide a statutory basis for permit revocation, even under the "for cause" revocation portion of the statute. Again, the LEO can utilize California test evidence, etc. and a later prosecution, given aggravated, unusual circumstances, could result in a permit revocation. The Ct law does not provide a specific list of permit revocation criteria. It requires revocation upon the permit holder's conviction for a felony or any of 11 specified misdemeanors but it also requires revocation upon any grounds on which a permit would have been denied (for cause), and it is important to note that "applicant suitability" is one of those broad stroke criteria used to deny the issuance of a permit in the first place. So the general answer is this, if you mix guns and intoxication under circumstances where criminal charges and convictions are the result, or mental health issues, or marital dissolution issues rise to the level of causing a concern, than the DPS has a plausible basis to act.
As to a vehicular operator situation, again, the mere refusal to take a test would carry with it motor vehicle suspension ramifications but would not in and of itself provide a statutory basis for permit revocation, even under the "for cause" revocation portion of the statute. Again, the LEO can utilize California test evidence, etc. and a later prosecution, given aggravated, unusual circumstances, could result in a permit revocation. The Ct law does not provide a specific list of permit revocation criteria. It requires revocation upon the permit holder's conviction for a felony or any of 11 specified misdemeanors but it also requires revocation upon any grounds on which a permit would have been denied (for cause), and it is important to note that "applicant suitability" is one of those broad stroke criteria used to deny the issuance of a permit in the first place. So the general answer is this, if you mix guns and intoxication under circumstances where criminal charges and convictions are the result, or mental health issues, or marital dissolution issues rise to the level of causing a concern, than the DPS has a plausible basis to act.
This has several errors.
Bars=legal. Drinking and carrying=illegal .. I guess you could have a beer. Under the influence =illegal
Place of work=legal. If your place of work has rules against it, they can fire you, but it isn't illegal.
Leaving it in your car is legal.
Any school=wrong. ..
Now that I look closer, all of this is wrong to one degree or other.
Read the statutes yourself.
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