Pistol found in backpack at daycare

[xtry51]

IMO the only person in this situation who should be facing legal action is the snowflake liberal who lost their mind and called the cops because they found a gun and are terrified of them.

This is the type of person all you people calling for this guy to be punished are supporting. The old see something say something 1984 nanny state bullshit.

 

[Varmint]

But hey, let's not stop that from ruining an entire family's worth of lives right? I mean destroying a family and running someone through the MA gunnlegal system is totally proportional response to leaving an object inadvertently bag right?

It's about making gun owners live in constant fear of persecution. If they can't have Communist re-education camps, they'll re-educate the Deplorables hiding in their own homes. If it means ruining some kids lives, well they're Democrats so the end justifies any means.

 

[nstassel]

Someone deliberately put it in the bag, explain how someone puts in in the bag without meaning to put it in the bag? Logically impossible unless you believe a person's body can be magically used to carry out an action without the person knowing it.

They may not have intended to leave it there.
They may not have intended for it to be found.
But they definitely intended to put it there. That was the choice. That was the negligent act.

Not necessarily. The cop in Weston had his loaded gun fall into his recycling bin at the end of his driveway from his safe.

 

[one-eyed Jack]

IMO the only person in this situation who should be facing legal action is the snowflake liberal who lost their mind and called the cops because they found a gun and are terrified of them.

Not legal action, but they could have just called dad to come and pick it up. Jack.

 

[Varmint]

Not necessarily. The cop in Weston had his loaded gun fall into his recycling bin at the end of his driveway from his safe.

Like someone said a gun is a tool. I misplace or lose tools all the time, including box cutters. Luckily no airliners have been hijacked as a result of my negligence.

 

[Picton]

I could be wrong, but Commonwealth v Cruz is (I think) still the binding precedent on whether daycares are GFZs, and they are. Sprouts is licensed by DESE. My feeling is that the employees didn’t have a choice but to report the gun.

Again, I could be wrong, and yes I think GFZs are monumentally dumb. But I also think unsecured handguns within reach of toddlers is every bit as dangerous as drunk drivers, so what do I know?

 

[DTOM537]

You don’t misplace a gun... a gun is not a wrench. I can’t believe people are defending this guy lol sad real sad, I know where everyone of my guns are, at all times. He did not. There are no excuses for what he did. Again he is lucky nothing happened....

 

[BigTimber]

I could be wrong, but Commonwealth v Cruz is (I think) still the binding precedent on whether daycares are GFZs, and they are. Sprouts is licensed by DESE. My feeling is that the employees didn’t have a choice but to report the gun.

I could be wrong, and yes I think GFZs are monumentally dumb. But I also think unsecured handguns within reach of toddlers is every bit as dangerous as drunk drivers, so what do I know?

Yeah. They’re not the retards here. They had ZERO choice but to call the fuzz for a few reasons.

 

[one-eyed Jack]

Yeah. They’re not the retards here. They had ZERO choice but to call the fuzz for a few reasons.

If you or I had found the gun, the outcome would have been quite different. We would have called dad. Jack.

 

[Picton]

If you or I had found the gun, the outcome would have been quite different. We would have called dad. Jack.

You’re not an employee at at a DESE-licensed daycare. If you are, you call or you lose your job and whatever certification you’ve got.

 

[Cipher]

If you or I had found the gun, the outcome would have been quite different. We would have called dad. Jack.

That would be the appropriate response but this is Mass where the media and hysteria patrol need to be involved in every affair.

 

[fshalor]

That’s a mistake you don’t make.... what if a kid found it... could have been bad, glad it was not

We have guns in the F**ucking United States. They were used to secure this country when it was born. All citizens born here should know what the F to do if one ends up in their hands. And all citizens of any age who lack that training should be given it.

 

[DTOM537]

We have guns in the F**ucking United States. They were used to secure this country when it was born. All citizens born here should know what the F to do if one ends up in their hands. And all citizens of any age who lack that training should be given it.

Are u serious. ? Kids at a day care ? What are they like 2-3 years old u can’t be serious. This has to be one of the stupidest things I have read In a while

 

[one-eyed Jack]

That would be the appropriate response but this is Mass where the media and hysteria patrol need to be involved in every affair.

Well, it would depend on who knew about the gun. If only me, I would have called and met him outside. Jack.

 

[Cipher]

Well, it would depend on who knew about the gun. If only me, I would have called and met him outside. Jack.

"Sir I have your piece. Um.."
"Uhm what?"
"Screen name?"

 

[42!]

But you said it was put there intentionally

I think the chances that a parent of a child that all other indications are that they care about....... intentionally placing a gun in the bag they intended to accompany the child is approaching 0%

We going to start cutting peoples heads off for simple mistakes where no one was harmed?

You are missing the point, from my previous post;

They may not have intended to leave it there.
They may not have intended for it to be found.
But they definitely intended to put it there. That was the choice. That was the negligent act.

And I'll add that they may not have intended for it to go to the daycare.

But putting it in the kids bag was a specific, deliberate, and intended action. And forgetting it's in your kids bag would be negligence not an accident, since he had an obligation as a parent to do this. And when he put it in he should have been aware that if he didn't take it out it could end up at the daycare.

You want to excuse a deliberate act, putting it in the bag, as something he had no control over. That would mean it was magic, which I don't agree with. At the time and place that he was holding the gun and went to put it in the bag, his intention was to put it in the kids bag. There is no logical argument to this since someone had to put it in the bag (I've agreed to the slim possibility that it was someone else). If you can give me one non-magical way someone can move a gun from their hand and into a bag without a deliberate action or any knowledge, then I will concede the point.

 

[oldguy47]

Well you don’t send you kid to daycare with a pistol in there backpack... why would u put it in there to begin with, I mean really.. the guy is a total tard and he’s lucky nothing happened

I agree completely! I don't rant often, but this is unbelievable!! HOW do you EVER put a weapon in a child's backpack, EVEN by mistake?!!

 

[swatgig]

If I found it, I would have kept it. Pretty much zero chance anyone would show up looking for it.

“Excuse me, but did anyone find a gun in my child’s backpack?”

 

[PATRON]

Well I hope he does not put a lot of valve on his LTC Because I would say it’s as good as gone, how does someone make a mistake like this ??

COP

 

[oldguy47]

Do we crucify people to the same degree when there is a traffic violation that COULD have been fatal if the stars/moon/sun alligned JUST RIGHT but NO ONE was injured and no property damage occurred?

Of course not

B&&&S***!

 

[DTOM537]

COP

Are u saying I am a cop, Because of what I wrote? I am not a cop. But here in mass I will guarantee his ltc is as good as gone. If it’s not already pulled

 

[oldguy47]

Like someone said a gun is a tool. I misplace or lose tools all the time, including box cutters. Luckily no airliners have been hijacked as a result of my negligence.

My pistol is one "tool" I NEVER misplace! Think of that whatever you want!

 

[Sweeney]

The way I see it, the kid has a better chance of survival playing with a loaded handgun than under the 'care' of DCF.

 

[DTOM537]

I really am blown away that anyone would defend what he did, i don’t care if it’s a accident or not. It should have never happened. The guy is a loser, and clearly irresponsible, too lose a pistol, I mean really... and to put it in your kids back pack...

 

[Me Have ADD]

Hey, maybe it was a bullet-proof backpack and the father put the pistol in it for extra protection
View: https://youtu.be/Z52Nkc5K7SM

 

[enbloc]

Not a single one of those children at the Daycare center were in DANGER.

Why?

Mass triggers are required to be 10 #'s... for child safety *.

*If a 10# trigger isn't child proof... why is it the Law? And if it is child proof those kids weren't in "Danger"...

 

[fshalor]

Are u serious. ? Kids at a day care ? What are they like 2-3 years old u can’t be serious. This has to be one of the stupidest things I have read In a while

I'm very serious. Was it a kid who found it? Or an adult?

Any kid over the age of 2 should know the rules when they see a gun too. Stop and show an adult is not rocket surgery.

 

[teaser452]

The willful act was him choosing to put the gun in the bag.

I could be wrong here, and misremembering, but aren’t you the member who can’t have a gun because you refused vaccines in the military and were dishonorably discharged?

If you’re not that member I apologize. But if you are that member, then maybe that’s why you’re so hyper about punishing this guy.

 

[teaser452]

Jeezum!

So as far as I can tell, half the commenters here want to blow this whole f***ing family up for a mistake that cause no harm?

I have two words for those that believe this.

f*** YOU.

 

[enbloc]

Soon it will be illegal to be caught with a plastic straw on your juicebox at a Daycare...