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Picked up a ten pack of Baofeng BF888s UHF radios today.

Discussion in 'Survival Forum' started by Uzi2, Jul 11, 2019.

  1. Coyote33

    Coyote33

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    Related question:

    Can you talk to these BF888's with the UV5R?

    How do these differ (or do they) from the GMS/FRS (or whatever it is) type of walkie talkie; or are they the same thing?
     
  2. Uzi2

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    Yes, You can talk UV5R to BF 888s and vice versa on UHF only.

    The BF 888s is UHF (400-470mhz) only whereas the UV5R is both VHF (136-174mhz) and UHF(400-470mhz).

    Both radios cover the same UHF spectrum so they are compatible in that spectrum.

    Look up the GMRS and FRS bands and their related restrictions and save me some typing. All the info is already out there.
     
  3. flippinfleck

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    Did you use Chirp?

    Having a heck of a time programming the ones I recently picked up.

    Running CHIRP on Linux. Granted, not the most recent daily but it works fine with all my other Baofeng radios.
     
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  4. Uzi2

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    Yes, a friend using CHIRP in Windows did them for me. Not familiar with Linux so I can't help you there.
     
  5. flippinfleck

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    Yeah, unable to use Chirp in Linux or Winders to read these things. Both are now using most recent version. Even tried the Miklor 888S software and that was a no-go.

    I see a green indicator light when I try to read with Chirp which is frustrating; work, dangit!

    Will order a new cable and see what that does.
     
  6. Uzi2

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    I've had a bad cable before, it is frustrating especially with a radio with no manual keypad entry capability.

    I must say, the radios are working well for me.
     
  7. AHM

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    You'd hope that rigs designed for USB-based cables would be pretty straightforward.
    USB is way more complex than serial lines,
    but it might be harder to half-succeed by half-assing a design.

    Owners of rigs programmed with serial cables,
    in modern times where PCs don't come with serial ports,
    have a huge problem: finding USB/serial converters that work.

    One of the Yaesu rig Yahoo Groups (most likely a FT-857/FT-897 shrine)
    once had an explanation for many of the problems:
    two separate signal voltage level conversions - one bad.

    Regular rig/serial cables had to convert between (roughly) 5V (TTL) levels on the rig side,
    and 12V serial levels for the computer.

    But USB/serial adapters had to convert between 12V on the serial side,
    and the 5V USB- standard. It turns out that many USB serial adapters
    used crap ChiCom chips that didn't bother boosting the USB 5V up to 12V,
    and only swung their DB-9 serial port with a fraction of the serial standard voltage,
    because some serial devices would work anyhow.

    Not including cables for Yaesu rigs that translate the serial voltage to TTL.

    So people trying to program their rigs
    were re-enacting the wart cure scene in Tom Sawyer,
    trying every superstitious thing to make electrically intact cables
    with crap-designed ICs work with their PCs.
    And this- or that-brand of USB adapter would get reviled or worshipped.

    (For all I know, some brands worked or failed depending on
    which batch of chips from which knock-off foundry
    they were using on the assembly line that week).

    One the other hand, one of these days someone will salt the Baofeng
    factory with USB hardware/firmware that infect the customer PCs with a virus.
    Then hilarity will ensue...
     
  8. AHM

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    Like this.
     
  9. Uzi2

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    I take it your not a Baofeng fan?[thinking]
     
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  10. Len-2A Training

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    The only reason to be a Baofeng fan is the price.

    I just purchased the UV-5RX3 at Boxboro due to price and to (for now) have one in NH and one (UV-5R) in MA. The new one is FCC approved. I also have the Yaesu FT-60R in NH and the Baofeng was having a static attack from my computer. The Yaesu wasn't affected at all sitting basically on top of the computer. Huge difference in cost and quality.
     
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  11. Uzi2

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    Agree, but for the millions of people without those interference problems they suffice as perfectly adequate comms. I've had and still have expensive Icom, Yaesu, Kenwood, Motorola portables and fully realize the differences between them and Baofengs....but the Baofengs fulfill my needs just fine for inexpensive, virtually disposable handie talkies.
    If I lose a Baofeng off my tractor or 4wheeler or my belt, I won't even go look for it, I'll take another one out of the box and put it in the charger.....and I'm out $20 or less. Lose one of the other brands and I'm out $150-$450.
     
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  12. flippinfleck

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    New cable arrived. Still couldn't read from the radio. For the heck of it, tried writing. Boom, it worked. I can read from it now as well.

    As for the Baofeng VS <insert better radio>, these were picked up specifically because they are cheap; I'm not handing my Yaesu radios off to a pack of kids in the woods. I have UV-5R's as well and when handing them off to folks who were used to blister-pack FRS/GMRS, they became overwhelmed by all the buttons. The 888S will serve their purpose as do the better radios.
     
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    Great!!!

    Did you try the other cable as well just for the heck of it to see if it worked now?
     
  14. AHM

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    Not from that you couldn't conclude it.

    Word is they have hideous spectral purity on transmit.
    And the ChiCom manual my cousin's husband showed me
    was the most impenetrable thing I've ever seen.

    But if and when I build my APRS kit,
    I might well pick up a cheap 5W Baofeng to use as the transceiver.
     
  15. Len-2A Training

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    Radioddity has rewritten the manual to be a lot more readable.
    https://uv-5rtp.s3-us-west-2.amazonaws.com/UV-5R Series Manual [EN+DE+IT+FR+ES].zip
     
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  16. Coyote33

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    Is this the latest version, the UV-5RX3? There's no UV-6R to take the place of the UV-5R? There are at least 4-7 different models of the UV-5R.
     
  17. Len-2A Training

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    It's confusing but the UV-5RX3 is a 3 band radio.
     

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