Ugh... Those are the type of wasteful @ssholes that ruin it for others. Yep, your dog grabs one- it's part of your bag limit. You blow one to a mix of feathers and gunk? Also part of your bag limit. That's some serious poaching on the part of those two old douches. If someone wants to blast a bunch of birds on the same day, buck up for a private hunt. Did that yesterday on a special permit at my club and our group of 3 hunters / 2 dogs bagged a total of 12 pheasants. E-collar sucks for the dog, but better than having a completely out of control dog for others to 'enjoy'.