Percentage of adults who carry ...

[firtree]

Blatantly ripped from CombatCarry, who ripped it from a blog. I found it
pretty interesting...

Percent of Adults with a License to Carry in each Shall Issue State:

7.45% South Dakota
6.79% Indiana
6.76% Pennsylvania
5.23% Connecticut
5.12% Washington
4.34% Idaho
4.10% Utah
3.86% Oregon
3.45% Tennessee
3.15% Alabama
2.72% Florida
2.71% Kentucky
2.67% Wyoming
2.41% Maine
2.18% Arkansas
2.11% Virginia
1.94% West Virginia
1.76% Arizona
1.75% Oklahoma
1.70% Montana
1.70% Michigan
1.62% Texas
1.39% South Carolina
1.34% North Dakota
1.00% North Carolina
0.86% Mississippi
0.62% Louisiana
0.58% Nevada
0.45% Minnesota
0.36% Missouri
0.33% Ohio
0.20% Colorado
0.17% New Mexico

 

[dreppucci007]

Amazing

 

[News Shooter]

I'm going home

as soon as I can

 

[SiameseRat]

wow. No wonder there's so much crime. There aren't enough people packing.

 

[Moderator]

wow. No wonder there's so much crime. There aren't enough people packing.

Roger that and a big +1

 

[Len-2A Training]

The vast majority of LTC/CCW holders do not carry a handgun.

In many states a CCW helps you avoid "waiting periods" and/or NICS checks. So residents obtain the CCW permit for those purposes, as opposed to the purpose of "carrying" a gun.

I don't think you can put much credence in those numbers.

 

[Weerd Beard]

Plus how many people who DO carry carry all the time?

Having a gun at home when you wrongly assumed you "Didn't Need it" isn't worth much.

if people could predict when they needed a weapon, we wouldn't need CCW, just stay home at those times!

-Weer'd Beard

 

[KMaurer]

Yes indeed, crime would be a lot lower if the number of honest people carrying was significantly higher. The whole idea of only carrying when or where you expect you'll need it is proof that your mind isn't working that clearly. Unless it's your job, why would anybody go anyplace where they expected to need a gun defensively? Are they worried they don't have enough notches on their gun to qualify as a certified bad ass? If I expect to run into trouble, I manage to be someplace else; I only carry for those "unexpected" things.

BTW, the licensing numbers are somewhat deceptive. Some of the states with the lowest rates represent new laws where people are just starting to apply. Missouri is a particular ringer; their Sheriff's stalled and threw up roadblocks for so long that people discovered the law allowed them to carry on a non-resident permit from another state quicker, cheaper and with no hassles. The result is that even now that the Sheriff's have started to obey the law, few people bother with them.

Ken

 

[daceman63]

I'm not so sure that people with a CCW only carry when they expect trouble...I would like to carry all the time but my daily routine makes it very inconvenient to do so..

First, work prohibits it. As I mentioned on another thread we have such a crack teen0age security force I feel completely safe enough and don't feell the need not comply with this policy. NOT!!!! But I won't violate the policy.

Second, I pick my children up from school everyday. We all know that I can't bring a firearm onto school property let alone inside with me.

So what they are doing is making it more of a hassle to carry, even if legal, than not.

 

[drgrant]

The vast majority of LTC/CCW holders do not carry a handgun.

In many states a CCW helps you avoid "waiting periods" and/or NICS checks. So residents obtain the CCW permit for those purposes, as opposed to the purpose of "carrying" a gun.

I don't think you can put much credence in those numbers.

I don't think its quite that bad, Len. PA does not have any of that
crap, and a CCW is meaningless there when purchasing a rifle or a
handgun. (And in that list, it's one of the highest percentages.)

Course one thing is missing from the title- it's just not ADULTS, its
"adults that legally own handguns" which is a subset of the entire population.
So a value of near 7%, that isnt a HUGE number anyways, so given
that context, such numbers are believable.

There are only a handful of shall issue states with a "CCW
bypass" on the nics check, and another handful which have waiting
periods that are bypassed by a CCW.


CT can obviously be omitted, because from what I remember, you cant
really buy anything there without a permit, and I don't even think it really
is a bona-fide shall issue state anyways. (Not to mention they are the
most communist in the entire list).

It's like in MA, where you have this number of licenses, regardless of the
issuance restrictions or not, only a small portion actually really carry their
guns on a regular basis.


I -can- agree though, that in reality, even if say, 1000 people get a CCW,
fully intending to be able to carry a gun, they may decide not to, for
many overriding reasons....


namely:

-Many companies prohibit guns, even when stored in a vehicle, even in
"free" states. (Note this is not a legal thing often times, it is more of
a person wanting to keep their job type of problem).

-Many shall issue states have dumb-ass laws about carrying in bars, even
if one isn't drinking, or restaraunts that serve booze. So that means many
will not bother bringing their gun when going out to eat. The same goes
for "posted" establishments in some states with legally binding signage.

-Many localities ban guns being anywhere near a school, so if someone
has to go fetch their kids, they either have to break the law or not
bring the gun.

-Some people will not carry all the time due to social situations, clothing
limitations, etc, or it just being a plain pain in the ass.

-Some people will only carry with the dumb as hell notion that crime could
only possibly strike them "in that part of town" so they only carry when they
go there or do certain things. So even though they carry, they only do
so like 1% of the time that they probably could.

So it is safe to say that, yes, the people carrying at any one given time
is significantly smaller than the actual number of permits
issued- but I think it's more for "practical" reasons than people trying to dodge a
state's crappy laws. (Although by most that will be seen as a fringe
benefit of the permit).

-Mike

 

[Coyote33]

No number for MA?

 

[Executive]

Second, I pick my children up from school everyday. We all know that I can't bring a firearm onto school property let alone inside with me.

You ARE permitted to keep your firearm locked in the trunk of your vehicle on school property. Just make sure that you put it there before you are on school grounds and remove it after you leave school grounds. The law states that you may not have a firearm on your person while on school property. Please correct me if I am mistaken here.


Chris